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There is no 'potential' result, its a damn sure thing, you get either Hillary or Trump - you're fecked either way!
Although it is clear beyond doubt that Hillary will win.
There is no 'potential' result, its a damn sure thing, you get either Hillary or Trump - you're fecked either way!
Although it is clear beyond doubt that Hillary will win.
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Neither one is an ideal candidate.
Although Hillary does seem to have the edge now, it's a long time to November.
A lot of front runners eventually lost the election.
I am not in love with Trump, but I really, really can't stand Hillary. Or her husband. Or her homely looking, buck toothed daughter, Chelsea.
She is the most morally bankrupt, unethical, conniving, scheming, compulsive lying person in politics. I will give her and Bill credit.....they are very good politicians and know the political machine very well.
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This is Cheslea Clinton's husband..........he is a failed hedge fund manager....
Perhaps if it he had read Trade2Win, he would not have lost 90 percent of his investor's money.
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Chelsea Clinton’s husband is shutting down a hedge fund he founded after losing 90 percent of investors’ money.
Eaglevale Hellenic Opportunity specialized in buying up Greek stocks and government debt, betting the country would finally get its house in order and come roaring back. Mezvinsky argued in 2014 that, despite many signs to the contrary, Greece would soon be on the road to “sustainable recovery” and investors would be able to take advantage.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/11/c...ge-fund-after-losing-90-percent-of-its-money/
Perhaps if it he had read Trade2Win, he would not have lost 90 percent of his investor's money.
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Chelsea Clinton’s husband is shutting down a hedge fund he founded after losing 90 percent of investors’ money.
Eaglevale Hellenic Opportunity specialized in buying up Greek stocks and government debt, betting the country would finally get its house in order and come roaring back. Mezvinsky argued in 2014 that, despite many signs to the contrary, Greece would soon be on the road to “sustainable recovery” and investors would be able to take advantage.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/11/c...ge-fund-after-losing-90-percent-of-its-money/
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/history-donald-trump-business-failures-article-1.2526913
Interesting reviews on Trump steak here. Maybe it belongs in the jokes section.
http://www.qvc.com/Trump-Steaks-(16)-6oz-Certified-Angus-Beef-Steakburgers.product.M15809.html
" Nothing but grease, and shrinkage is astonishing! Bought both steaks and burgers, would not purchase again. No redeeming qualities. "
Fancy putting your name on that!
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The Democrats had a bette turn-out by far. That is not surprising considering that it is very "Blue". I agree with you about the reason. Trump's victory was a foregone conclusion. In light of that fact, I know of a few Republicans that voted for Sanders to try to pull votes away from Clinton. The Democratic primary was much more contested than the Republican one.
Total number of registered voters in California - 18,055,783
Number of registered Democrat voters in California - 7,932,373
Total - 3,475,720 (including all candidates)
Voter turn-out = 43.8%
Clinton - 1,940,580
Sanders - 1,502,043
Number of registered Republican voters in California - 5,225,675
Total - 1,560,820 (including all candidates)
Voter turn-out = 22.4%
Trump - 1,174,829
Kasich - 176,620
Cruz - 144,125
If you live in the US, and even better yet, if you live in California, you will notice a trend between these cities and I am not talking about their political preference.
Most Republicans
Least Republican
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Trump likes to think his hard ball. Sues the pants off anyone who gets in his way.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/business-owners-say-donald-trump-shortchanged-them-2016-06-09
He will apply same traits to running government and bullying other countries.
US foreign policy will deteriorate ten fold. Soft power rules. Ok
Trump v Hillary. Rellishing the contest to become.
My money is on Hillary.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/business-owners-say-donald-trump-shortchanged-them-2016-06-09
He will apply same traits to running government and bullying other countries.
US foreign policy will deteriorate ten fold. Soft power rules. Ok
Trump v Hillary. Rellishing the contest to become.
My money is on Hillary.
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Soft power is ok with your allies. Not with your enemies.
The female ambassador to Iraq (from the U.S. ) told Saddam Hussein that what happened between Iraq and Kuwait was not the responsibility of the U.S.
At least that was the message that was conveyed, even if it was incorrect.
As a result, Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990. And you know the rest of the story.
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About 2,3 years ago, North Korea attacked a South Korean naval vessel filled with a bunch of young Navy cadets. I don't remember how many died. But you can bet that they would never try that with the U.S.
It's better to 'speak softly and carry a big stick' - Theodore Roosevelt.
But Trump vs. Hillary will be interesting.
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I know exactly what you mean. When you hear stories about declining educational rates, increases in crime rates, unwed mothers ....it would be more effective if it was broken down by race and ethnicity. The story would be much clearer.
@Pat494.........Is it too late for a surprise NEW candidate to try ?
No, there are always several fringe candidates on the ballot. Even a Libertarian. But no one pays attention to them because they don't get the press coverage that the Democrats and Republicans get. If a significant third party candidate ran for office ( Bernie Sanders ?) they would only take votes away from the two major candidates, like Ross Perot did with George Bush Sr; causing him to lose to Bill Clinton.
But...they should have the alternative candidates in the presidential debates with the Democrats and Republicans.
It's the right thing to do, but the major news networks are friends of the major politicians. They are in bed with each other. It won't happen.
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They could take all the dirt that has been dug up on Bill and Hillary and use it to create an artificial island in the South China Sea.
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Bill Clinton’s lover - before and AFTER his marriage - tells how 'lumpy' Hillary with her 'fat ankles and hair on her toes' schemed to get her to LIE on 60 Minutes about Bill's other affairs.
'There appears to be no limit to what Hillary will do to destroy her perceived enemies,' Dolly Kyle writes in her new bombshell book
Kyle began sleeping with Bill Clinton after high school and their affair didn't end until he moved to the White House
'Billy was a sex addict; I was a codependent,' she admits in memoir that rips the lid off the power couple
Bill was undone by Wilt Chamberlain's claim to have slept with 20,000 women - That's ten times more than I've had!' he told Dolly
Dolly says Bill told her he and Hillary - who he called 'The Warden' -needed to have a baby 'so we can appear to be a normal couple'
'We need to do something serious to take attention off the Warden's lifestyle,' Bill said and Dolly suggested he sleep with Hillary
When Dolly met Hillary - May 28, 1974 - she wore a 'misshapen, brown, dress-like thing that must have been intended to hide her lumpy body'
The garment 'stopped too soon to hide her fat ankles and her thick calves covered with black hair'
'Thick brown sandals did nothing to conceal her wide feet and the hair on her toes,' Dolly said, adding that she was embarrassed and staring
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'Hillary's role of providing financial security for Billy was part of her motivation for the series of financial crimes (yes, crimes) that she committed over the decades'.
‘Billy and Hillary Clinton continue to be lying, cheating, manipulative, scratching, clawing, ruthlessly aggressive, insatiably ambitious politicians who are giving public service a bad name – and nothing about them has changed in the past forty-plus years, except that they have deluded more and more people’.
'The Clintons and their misled supporters have rewritten history to suit their political agenda, which is to get votes to get power to get money to get more power to get more money'.
Dolly and Bill continued their love affair and were safe in Arkansas because no one liked Hillary, she says.
'Hillary needs the power' and she is ruthless, Dolly writes.
She resented that she had to dress like Southern women, Dolly says. She visited dress shops but generally didn't buy anything.
But Hillary felt trapped being at home with a baby (Chelsea) and couldn't wait to get back to work. 'How long do I have to stay at home with this kid?
much more .............
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-schemed-LIE-60-Minutes-Bill-s-affairs.html
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Bill Clinton’s lover - before and AFTER his marriage - tells how 'lumpy' Hillary with her 'fat ankles and hair on her toes' schemed to get her to LIE on 60 Minutes about Bill's other affairs.
'There appears to be no limit to what Hillary will do to destroy her perceived enemies,' Dolly Kyle writes in her new bombshell book
Kyle began sleeping with Bill Clinton after high school and their affair didn't end until he moved to the White House
'Billy was a sex addict; I was a codependent,' she admits in memoir that rips the lid off the power couple
Bill was undone by Wilt Chamberlain's claim to have slept with 20,000 women - That's ten times more than I've had!' he told Dolly
Dolly says Bill told her he and Hillary - who he called 'The Warden' -needed to have a baby 'so we can appear to be a normal couple'
'We need to do something serious to take attention off the Warden's lifestyle,' Bill said and Dolly suggested he sleep with Hillary
When Dolly met Hillary - May 28, 1974 - she wore a 'misshapen, brown, dress-like thing that must have been intended to hide her lumpy body'
The garment 'stopped too soon to hide her fat ankles and her thick calves covered with black hair'
'Thick brown sandals did nothing to conceal her wide feet and the hair on her toes,' Dolly said, adding that she was embarrassed and staring
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'Hillary's role of providing financial security for Billy was part of her motivation for the series of financial crimes (yes, crimes) that she committed over the decades'.
‘Billy and Hillary Clinton continue to be lying, cheating, manipulative, scratching, clawing, ruthlessly aggressive, insatiably ambitious politicians who are giving public service a bad name – and nothing about them has changed in the past forty-plus years, except that they have deluded more and more people’.
'The Clintons and their misled supporters have rewritten history to suit their political agenda, which is to get votes to get power to get money to get more power to get more money'.
Dolly and Bill continued their love affair and were safe in Arkansas because no one liked Hillary, she says.
'Hillary needs the power' and she is ruthless, Dolly writes.
She resented that she had to dress like Southern women, Dolly says. She visited dress shops but generally didn't buy anything.
But Hillary felt trapped being at home with a baby (Chelsea) and couldn't wait to get back to work. 'How long do I have to stay at home with this kid?
much more .............
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-schemed-LIE-60-Minutes-Bill-s-affairs.html
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Sounds like you are condoning bent politicians. I thought they were supposed to uphold values and morality.
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Just giving in to the reality of it. Of course they shouldn't be baddies but.........
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Prior to the February 17, 2011, “Day of Rage,” Libya had a national budget surplus of 8.7 percent of GDP in 2010, with oil production at 1.8 million barrels per day, on track to reach its goal of 3 million barrels per day. Currently, oil production has decreased by over 80 percent.
Following the revolution, the Libyan economy contracted by an estimated 41.8 percent, with a national deficit of 17.1 percent GDP in 2011.
Before the revolution, Libya was a secure, prospering, secular Islamic country and a critical ally providing intelligence on terrorist activity post–September 11, 2001.
Qaddafi was no longer a threat to the United States.
Yet Secretary of State Hillary Clinton strongly advocated and succeeded in convincing the administration to support the Libyan rebels with a no-fly zone, intended to prevent a possible humanitarian disaster that turned quickly into all-out war.
Secretary Clinton’s war actually did make a difference. It led to a very real and very tragic humanitarian disaster.
Her bad judgment and failed policy resulted in the arming of terrorists, months of war and tens of thousands of causalities, the murder of the American ambassador and the deaths of three other brave Americans, continued civil war and the collapse of the Libyan economy, and a failed nation-state contributing to a tragic European migrant crisis.
Clearly the Libyan disaster tops Secretary Clinton’s legacy of failure.
more..........
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/hillarys-huge-libya-disaster-16600
Following the revolution, the Libyan economy contracted by an estimated 41.8 percent, with a national deficit of 17.1 percent GDP in 2011.
Before the revolution, Libya was a secure, prospering, secular Islamic country and a critical ally providing intelligence on terrorist activity post–September 11, 2001.
Qaddafi was no longer a threat to the United States.
Yet Secretary of State Hillary Clinton strongly advocated and succeeded in convincing the administration to support the Libyan rebels with a no-fly zone, intended to prevent a possible humanitarian disaster that turned quickly into all-out war.
Secretary Clinton’s war actually did make a difference. It led to a very real and very tragic humanitarian disaster.
Her bad judgment and failed policy resulted in the arming of terrorists, months of war and tens of thousands of causalities, the murder of the American ambassador and the deaths of three other brave Americans, continued civil war and the collapse of the Libyan economy, and a failed nation-state contributing to a tragic European migrant crisis.
Clearly the Libyan disaster tops Secretary Clinton’s legacy of failure.
more..........
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/hillarys-huge-libya-disaster-16600
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Vladimir Putin Has Everything He Needs to Blackmail Hillary Clinton
“Reliable intelligence sources in the West have indicated that warnings had been received that the Russian Government could in the near future release the text of email messages intercepted from U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s private e-mail server from the time she was U.S. Secretary of State. The release would, the messaging indicated, prove that Secretary Clinton had, in fact, laid open U.S. secrets to foreign interception by putting highly-classified Government reports onto a private server in violation of U.S. law, and that, as suspected, the server had been targeted and hacked by foreign intelligence services.”
Clinton’s rogue communication system could have compromised the identities of U.S. intelligence officers and human intelligence assets (HUMINT, human intelligence sources, i.e., flesh and blood, people who risk their lives to provide the U.S. with intelligence information).
In Hillary Clinton’s judgment, protecting her political viability was more important than protecting U.S. national security.
known facts regarding the Clinton Global Initiative (a Foundation initiative) are rather damning and if the Clintons were Republicans we would be treated to a constant torrent of reports about possible corruption. Is it fair to speculate that the Kremlin is also interested in the Clinton Foundation? “Less than half of the projects undertaken by the Clinton Global Initiative (since 2005) have been completed…”
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more............
http://observer.com/2016/06/vladimir-putin-has-everything-he-needs-to-blackmail-hillary-clinton/
“Reliable intelligence sources in the West have indicated that warnings had been received that the Russian Government could in the near future release the text of email messages intercepted from U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s private e-mail server from the time she was U.S. Secretary of State. The release would, the messaging indicated, prove that Secretary Clinton had, in fact, laid open U.S. secrets to foreign interception by putting highly-classified Government reports onto a private server in violation of U.S. law, and that, as suspected, the server had been targeted and hacked by foreign intelligence services.”
Clinton’s rogue communication system could have compromised the identities of U.S. intelligence officers and human intelligence assets (HUMINT, human intelligence sources, i.e., flesh and blood, people who risk their lives to provide the U.S. with intelligence information).
In Hillary Clinton’s judgment, protecting her political viability was more important than protecting U.S. national security.
known facts regarding the Clinton Global Initiative (a Foundation initiative) are rather damning and if the Clintons were Republicans we would be treated to a constant torrent of reports about possible corruption. Is it fair to speculate that the Kremlin is also interested in the Clinton Foundation? “Less than half of the projects undertaken by the Clinton Global Initiative (since 2005) have been completed…”
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more............
http://observer.com/2016/06/vladimir-putin-has-everything-he-needs-to-blackmail-hillary-clinton/
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Guccifer 2.0 Leak Reveals How DNC Rigged Primaries for Clinton
Hillary Clinton didn’t win the Democratic primaries through democratic means
Despite being under criminal investigation by the FBI and DOJ, Clinton has still managed to secure the Democratic presidential nomination. And, despite revelations from the State Department Inspector General—who reported Clinton did break federal rules, effectively debunking the defense she has echoed for over a year—Democrats still, shockingly, continued to vote for her in the remaining primary states.
Clinton has received millions in dubious donations through Super-PACs by exploiting campaign finance law loopholes.
the DNC feeds reporters stories to perpetuate specific agendas—presumably including the baseless Bernie-Bro attacks manufactured to discredit Bernie Sanders. The DNC’s narratives were not only misleading but also cited false information to corroborate their arguments.
Hillary Clinton didn’t win the Democratic primaries through democratic means. Rather, she stole the Democratic presidential nomination through systematic manipulation of the primary process. Over 400 super delegates pledged their support to Clinton before a single person cast a vote, the DNC is led by a Clinton surrogate, and mass consent for Clinton’s coronation was fed to the public through mainstream media outlets owned by wealthy Clinton donors.
The Democratic primaries exhibited a stark disregard for the values endemic to democracy, nearly solidifying an oligarchy in which corporations and wealthy donors use the government as a means to perpetuate their own agendas.
more............
http://observer.com/2016/06/guccifer-2-0-leak-reveals-how-dnc-rigged-primaries-for-clinton/
Hillary Clinton didn’t win the Democratic primaries through democratic means
Despite being under criminal investigation by the FBI and DOJ, Clinton has still managed to secure the Democratic presidential nomination. And, despite revelations from the State Department Inspector General—who reported Clinton did break federal rules, effectively debunking the defense she has echoed for over a year—Democrats still, shockingly, continued to vote for her in the remaining primary states.
Clinton has received millions in dubious donations through Super-PACs by exploiting campaign finance law loopholes.
the DNC feeds reporters stories to perpetuate specific agendas—presumably including the baseless Bernie-Bro attacks manufactured to discredit Bernie Sanders. The DNC’s narratives were not only misleading but also cited false information to corroborate their arguments.
Hillary Clinton didn’t win the Democratic primaries through democratic means. Rather, she stole the Democratic presidential nomination through systematic manipulation of the primary process. Over 400 super delegates pledged their support to Clinton before a single person cast a vote, the DNC is led by a Clinton surrogate, and mass consent for Clinton’s coronation was fed to the public through mainstream media outlets owned by wealthy Clinton donors.
The Democratic primaries exhibited a stark disregard for the values endemic to democracy, nearly solidifying an oligarchy in which corporations and wealthy donors use the government as a means to perpetuate their own agendas.
more............
http://observer.com/2016/06/guccifer-2-0-leak-reveals-how-dnc-rigged-primaries-for-clinton/
Pat494
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Not much of a choice really. Which is the least awful ?
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Trump v Hillary. Rellishing the contest to become.
My money is on Hillary.
In that case, given your record of faulty thinking and absence of logical thought.
Trump is bound to win.
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Yeah, the lesser of two evils.
Maybe I should look closer at Gary Johnson, the Libertarian candidate.
Even though I know he won't win, but it would be a protest vote.
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In that case, given your record of faulty thinking and absence of logical thought.
Trump is bound to win.
I'm sure you are as always right dear CV :cheesy:
