swingin' the ftse: 2008

what does everyone think will happen with ftse and dow on friday ??

I suspect a decent start for ftse, then a sell off in time for the close and weekend.

Could be decent day to go short on the index at some point.

S
 
Black Bear reports a bad day at the office and the loss of 3 claws on one paw :eek:

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hey, andy - you should've sent those indians on patrol first ;)

won't be about much next few weeks. it's that time of the year again and i'll be diverted doing breeding bird counts at crack of dawn.

cheers

jon
 
what does everyone think will happen with ftse and dow on friday ??

I suspect a decent start for ftse, then a sell off in time for the close and weekend.

Could be decent day to go short on the index at some point.

S

hi, sul

as good a scenario as any i suppose, but look where opinions got andy (black bear) :rolleyes:

The 3 bar swings are looking messy now, but might see another potential swing high today otherwise some may be looking for short if 5864 goes.

cheers

jon
 
Mad Bear re-groups

hey, andy - you should've sent those indians on patrol first ;)

won't be about much next few weeks. it's that time of the year again and i'll be diverted doing breeding bird counts at crack of dawn.

cheers

jon

Hi Jon

Think thats good advice Jon

Waited till I cooled down before posting

what a nana head, just goes to show that Warren geezer is correct, some lessons you need to learn more than once :eek:

Plan for longer timeframe and opinion trades is under construction Jon the usual is not transferable in the moment of battle, every indian needs to no his job before hand.

Most of the Indians are resting back at camp, most being the operative word :eek:

Good rest to you Jon
 

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Thought for the week......with a new plan

some time latter .............................:)


trading in range top of wide bar and previous days highs

news out later

No trade it, but its up I think, may spike down but just feel its got more to go yet, built a little base over last few days, could see a spike under at the news maybe a shake into close

Dow to go on one into the weekend after the ftse closes and after inicial flaps over :arrowu: = more shorts covering monday on the ftse

Minor Short zone from 6008 ~ 6090 june fut, major 6200 ish

favour 200 ish which will take us to the decending trend channel (weeks)

See where the locations X (pdh & L etc) next week

I think I may then launch a small well planned raiding party and see how it goes :)

time to check weapons and feed the war ponies up

Good weekend all and good luck next week :clover:
 

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Friday dont we get US jobs data today, i shorted ftse100 cash @ 5669/842 need it to drop.

I tink volatility is very low becuase banks have been supported and they were the ones responsible for most of the volatility.
 
News ............YES

some time latter .............................:)


trading in range top of wide bar and previous days highs

news out later

No trade it, but its up I think, may spike down but just feel its got more to go yet, built a little base over last few days, could see a spike under at the news maybe a shake for or into close

Dow to go on one into the weekend after the ftse closes and after inicial flaps over :arrowu: = more shorts covering monday on the ftse

Minor Short zone from 6008 ~ 6090 june fut, major 6200 ish

favour 200 ish which will take us to the decending trend channel (weeks)

See where the locations X (pdh & L etc) next week

I think I may then launch a small well planed raiding party and see how it goes :)

time to check weapons and feed the war ponies up

Good weekend all and good luck next week :clover:

red on the news bit :cheesy:
 

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wow what a session!!

I was short on the ftse 40 a point at 5920 ,
was eeking before the numbers from us came out as ftse was around 5950
Numbers come out dip to less than 5910, manage to get out with 10 point profit.

And now ftse is back up again!!


Trying to trade in range but quite nervous about it!
 
back in at 5924
Lets see how the dow kicks off.

I reckon it will be down sentiment now.

S
 
Bulls and Bears

wow what a session!!

I was short on the ftse 40 a point at 5920 ,
was eeking before the numbers from us came out as ftse was around 5950
Numbers come out dip to less than 5910, manage to get out with 10 point profit.

And now ftse is back up again!!


Trying to trade in range but quite nervous about it!

Hi sul2soul

mind how you go,

See earlier post by myself, you could end up on the end of a bad un if you hang around relying on the news to drive it your way, better sat other side if you can manage it before it comes out, or pass and wait in my very very humble opinion

Been there done that = got the bloody nose to prove it :eek::eek::cry:

Look them Bulls have horns on them :-0
 

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appreciate the advice andy.
also very wise words.
I have been on the wrong side far to many times to!

Been doing ok with the range so far. Taking small profits in moves.

However the ftse seems to be in very positive mood today compared to all the other indices.
Normally we are the first to wave the white flag! lol

S
 
mmm, the advancing army is approaching the 6000 fortress again where the defenders are heating up the oil and priming their canons. Will the army turn tail and run or call the battering rams into action? Or will the opposing forces call a temporary cease fire and play football in no-mans-land for a while. Book your seats, ladies and gentlemen, for the 6000 show.

Course, we have a potential swing high today with a short triggering at below 5888 to keep you entertained as well.

jon
 
I have FTSE sell order below Friday's close. I suspect FTSE will trade low early to re-balance with indecisive S&P. If the short is triggered this will only be a morning hold for me as the US indices don't look that bearish any more, probably relief buying in the financials as somebody said above, and I may look to go long on the Dow if it opens strong. Not a legendary strategy but I don't see any other obvious swing opportunities anyway.
 
mmm, the advancing army is approaching the 6000 fortress again where the defenders are heating up the oil and priming their canons. Will the army turn tail and run or call the battering rams into action? Or will the opposing forces call a temporary cease fire and play football in no-mans-land for a while. Book your seats, ladies and gentlemen, for the 6000 show.

Course, we have a potential swing high today with a short triggering at below 5888 to keep you entertained as well.

jon

There aren't any indians amongst that lot, are there? :D
 
Little Big Horn just a head a bit ..............

mmm, the advancing army is approaching the 6000 fortress again where the defenders are heating up the oil and priming their canons. Will the army turn tail and run or call the battering rams into action? Or will the opposing forces call a temporary cease fire and play football in no-mans-land for a while. Book your seats, ladies and gentlemen, for the 6000 show.

Course, we have a potential swing high today with a short triggering at below 5888 to keep you entertained as well.

jon

There aren't any indians amongst that lot, are there? :D

Hi Split

love it don"t you

When those indians come out to play ~ war party size General Custer was one very sorry General, wished he had not divided his forces up that day for sure Split :-0

Remains of an Indian war party have just returned and bring information regarding Custers forces.

War chiefs are gathering and talk of a great victory is in the air if the forces of the indian nations can unite and fight as one :)
 

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Battle of the Little Big Horn

The Battle plan shows the possible site of the battle
 

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Nations have agreed on a plan of action

Talks and plans are going well

Nations have decided to give ground to the 7th Cavalry in the hope of a much better opportunity in the high ground later on. War parties around the 6000-200 level marked on the post above will be limited to small war parties fighting from pd highs only they will hold out and look for follow through at pd lows. (risk per war party 1 % intra day account) The nations think they will be at a disadvantage fighting the 7th Calvalry in Territory they have just fought over. Scouts have reported the 7th Calvalry have managed to errect some fixed defences which will make life very hard for their own lightly armed warriors. The 7th Cavalry only recently launched an assault on the 6000 area and are sure to be better prepared this time round.

The nations hope to draw the enemy away from their supply lines and inflict a total route in the opening minutes of battle which will be on ground of their choosing.

War parties in action at pdh over the coming days will harass the enemy and cause as much damage as possible in order that the main war party can rest up and be fully prepared for battle in the high ground. Their orders are to get in and out quick and only hold and press their advantage if the 7th Cavalry break from their quickly erected field Fort.

Nations battle plan will follow method of the below link in principal

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Charts marked and entry will be made contra in the short term trend (days) in red marked zone, Entry day will be a narrow range day and preferably a monday and the 1st of the month :)

Battle rules

Old Rules...but Very Good Rules.

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Remember, not having a position is a position.

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when comparing various stocks within a group, buy only the strongest
and sell the weakest.

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biggest trade of the year. Don't enter a trade until it has been well
thought out, a campaign has been devised for adding to the trade, and
contingency plans set for exiting the trade.

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In bear markets, add on corrections into resistance. Use the 33-50%
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as a first point in which to add.

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each year. You must develop the ability to patiently stay with winning
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of what you saw earlier than they.

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It is not the loss of money that is important. Rather, it is the mental
capital that is used up when you sit with a losing trade that is important.

10.Never, ever under any condition, add to a losing trade, or "average" into
a position. If you are buying, then each new buy price must be higher
than the previous buy price. If you are selling, then each new selling
price must be lower. This rule is to be adhered to without question.

11.Do more of what is working for you, and less of what's not. Each day,
look at the various positions you are holding, and try to add to the trade
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certainty, and patiently sit tight.

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trades and stop trading for several days. The mind can play games with
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extreme, and should not be given in to.

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proverbial "hay" when the sun does shine.

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which to add, add no more than 100 or 200 shares. That moves the
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allowing you to sit through 50% corrections without touching your
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that is winning, not wasting our time and capital on futile efforts to gain
fame by buying the lows or selling the highs of some market movement.
Our duty is to earn profits by fighting alongside the winning forces. If
neither side is winning, then we don't need to fight at all.

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conditions.

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more of the price movement. Thus, the first 50% of the price movement
will take 90% of the time and will require the most backing and filling and
will be far more difficult to trade than the last 50%.

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but as Voltaire said, "Common sense is uncommon." Trading is a common-sense
business. When we trade contrary to common sense, we will lose. Perhaps not
always, but enormously and eventually. Trade simply. Avoid complex
methodologies concerning obscure technical systems and trade according to
the major trends only


Initial war party will have 5% max risk upon entry combined nations have 5000 braves ready for action
 

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