Brexit and the Consequences

mike. said:
The euro clearing houses ...while all the squabbling goes on NY will try to snatch it from under their feet.
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How is this relevant to UK losing the business?

Whether, the Europeans, Yanks or the business sinks over the atlantic, it is still lost and UK is poorer for it.

Focus on keeping the eggs in your basket Mikey, not weather the other competitors have dropped theirs. For this is precisely what they are doing against you.

You and CV not very good at this game are you? 😉
 
Atilla said:
How is this relevant to UK losing the business?

Whether, the Europeans, Yanks or the business sinks over the atlantic, it is still lost and UK is poorer for it.

Focus on keeping the eggs in your basket Mikey, not weather the other competitors have dropped theirs. For this is precisely what they are doing against you.

You and CV not very good at this game are you? 😉
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We are excellent at this and on the right side of the trade 😆
 
mike. said:
Is that fact ? Or just what you read on tinternet ? There's plenty stories contradicting that ...you're just a little biased.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-clearing-European-Union-London-Frankfurt/amp
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He says “So personally, I don’t think it will work, aside from anything else."

His view and is entitled to it. He talks about the scale of business and efficiencies and he is right on that score. Mixing up half rights and half wrongs sells the Daily Trash.


BUT the EU in no way can accept holding it's banking authority and euro clearing in a member state outside of the union!

Especially, when it will bring skills and jobs within her borders.


You are also ignoring all the moves heading that way. We were told only 10,000 jobs will be lost and more realistically some put that at 30,000. Numbers debatable. Who knows.


Towards the end of that article typically almost as a footnote The Express adds...

The ECB has previously indicated it is unlikely Britain will be able to hold on to the rights for the industry.

Now the managing director of Frankfurt Main Finance appears to believe the authorities will support the city's as the new centre for the industry.

The lobby group's chief Hubertus Väth said Britain could lose passporting rights that allows members of the European Union to sell financial services across the bloc.

Around 20 banks could announce expansion plans in Germany this year in anticipation of the change, according to the top lobbyist.

And he boasted that up to 10,000 jobs extra jobs could be created in Frankfurt if both euro-clearing and passporting are taken from the UK.



You weigh and you judge the likely outcome. Bernier has said there is no pix and mixing. If UK does want to hold it will have to give into some big concessions whether contributing billions or accepting some ECJ love.



So McFarlane, does he think or does he know??? :whistling
 
Time for some more JRM. We need more like him with a clear patriotic vision for the UK.

Here he is putting Vince straight on all things EU.
Enjoy🙂

 
counter_violent said:
Time for some more JRM. We need more like him with a clear patriotic vision for the UK.

Here he is putting Vince straight on all things EU.
Enjoy🙂

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So much unsubstantiated hot hair.

Much like Davies saying oh yeah sure we can do this. It's all very simple and straight forward. 😆😆😆

UK trades more with the rest of the World yeah about half as much. 53 / 47% I think the numbers were approx.

So 27 countries -> 47 % trade. No of agreements 1.

130 countries 53% trade. No of proposed agreements 130.

Just how many more bilateral trade agreements will they purusue.


He also reiterated we'll get cheaper food adn clothes from elsewhere? That clearly has not happened and will not do so either as transporting good 1000s of miles away will have a quality and cost impact.

He is an absolute POS dressed up in a suit, speaking with his public school twang, talking B.

You'll be believing in fairies and pixy dust soon too.
 
Atilla said:
So much unsubstantiated hot hair.

Much like Davies saying oh yeah sure we can do this. It's all very simple and straight forward. 😆😆😆

UK trades more with the rest of the World yeah about half as much. 53 / 47% I think the numbers were approx.

So 27 countries -> 47 % trade. No of agreements 1.

130 countries 53% trade. No of proposed agreements 130.

Just how many more bilateral trade agreements will they purusue.


He also reiterated we'll get cheaper food adn clothes from elsewhere? That clearly has not happened and will not do so either as transporting good 1000s of miles away will have a quality and cost impact.

He is an absolute POS dressed up in a suit, speaking with his public school twang, talking B.

You'll be believing in fairies and pixy dust soon too.
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I don't know this guy but, as I see it, Brexiters are desperate for new faces with new ideas. Or are they same ideas? They have been unsuccessful, that's all. What's the matter with the people that they have? Give them a little time!
 
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Atilla said:
So much unsubstantiated hot hair.

Much like Davies saying oh yeah sure we can do this. It's all very simple and straight forward. 😆😆😆

UK trades more with the rest of the World yeah about half as much. 53 / 47% I think the numbers were approx.

So 27 countries -> 47 % trade. No of agreements 1.

130 countries 53% trade. No of proposed agreements 130.

Just how many more bilateral trade agreements will they purusue.


He also reiterated we'll get cheaper food adn clothes from elsewhere? That clearly has not happened and will not do so either as transporting good 1000s of miles away will have a quality and cost impact.

He is an absolute POS dressed up in a suit, speaking with his public school twang, talking B.

You'll be believing in fairies and pixy dust soon too.
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Have many does Switzerland have?
How many does Norway have?

You remoaners are only interested in failure. Well, we won't fail for sure.
All we see is silly threats coming out of Europe. The reason for that is simple, they would be quite happy dragging us down with them.
Did Japan have to put up with any of the EU BS 4 pillars to get it's trade deal ! No of course it didn't 😆

Just proves how desperate the EU is 😆
 
Splitlink said:
I don't know this guy but, as I see it, Brexiters are, desperate for new faces with new ideas. Or are they same ideas? They have been unsuccessful, that's all. What's the matter with the people that they have? Give them a little time!
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Very good and shrewd observation.

What you will see in the Conservative party is much blood letting where the Eurosceptics will continue to lose votes as the main core of the party tries to take back control from Brexsh1tters. Pun intended 😎

Heseltine said much the same Eurosceptics have always damaged the party and were always eventually pushed back because their plans never amounted to much but hot air.

👍


New boy on the block. Does anyone believe he or Davies or any of the Brexiters could win an election with their policies and set of unfolding events?

Other than CV and Mike perhaps?

Anyone?


Don't all shout at once will you 😆
 
Atilla said:
Very good and shrewd observation.

What you will see in the Conservative party is much blood letting where the Eurosceptics will continue to lose votes as the main core of the party tries to take back control from Brexsh1tters. Pun intended 😎

Heseltine said much the same Eurosceptics have always damaged the party and were always eventually pushed back because their plans never amounted to much but hot air.

👍


New boy on the block. Does anyone believe he or Davies or any of the Brexiters could win an election with their policies and set of unfolding events?

Other than CV and Mike perhaps?

Anyone?


Don't all shout at once will you 😆
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With the right leader i'm convinced they could yes.🙂

Anyway, for now we just need to pretend that there is a negotiation going on, which there isn't of course, 21 months of nothing happening, then we leave by default. After this, the proper negotiations will start.
 
counter_violent said:
Have many does Switzerland have?
How many does Norway have?

You remoaners are only interested in failure. Well, we won't fail for sure.
All we see is silly threats coming out of Europe. The reason for that is simple, they would be quite happy dragging us down with them.
Did Japan have to put up with any of the EU BS 4 pillars to get it's trade deal ! No of course it didn't 😆

Just proves how desperate the EU is 😆
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You suggesting we don't have a binary Brexit now?

Stepping out of line there now. Do you have JRM's blessing 😉


UK is about the same as Switzerland as an elephant is in comparison to rodent. Yes they may have 4 feet and a tail but not equivalent.

As for Norway that's fine. Just say you'd like a deal same as Norway. Instead we are going to get another whole new special bilateral agreement for the UK.

That's also fine but brace for complex negotiations that'll make your JRM look like a twit talking BS... That's Binary Stuff. 😉
 
counter_violent said:
With the right leader i'm convinced they could yes.🙂

Anyway, for now we just need to pretend that there is a negotiation going on, which there isn't of course, 21 months of nothing happening, then we leave by default. After this, the proper negotiations will start.
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Right leader my left foot.

Only leader that may get backing of industry could be Hammond right now. Any of the Euroslapsh1ts and you are OUT!

Dreamer 😉
 
Atilla said:
You suggesting we don't have a binary Brexit now?

Stepping out of line there now. Do you have JRM's blessing 😉


UK is about the same as Switzerland as an elephant is in comparison to rodent. Yes they may have 4 feet and a tail but not equivalent.

As for Norway that's fine. Just say you'd like a deal same as Norway. Instead we are going to get another whole new special bilateral agreement for the UK.

That's also fine but brace for complex negotiations that'll make your JRM look like a twit talking BS... That's Binary Stuff. 😉
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EU project is falling apart at the seams. That is all they are worried about 😆
 
Atilla said:
Right leader my left foot.

Only leader that may get backing of industry could be Hammond right now. Any of the Euroslapsh1ts and you are OUT!

Dreamer 😉
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Are these the same industries that went the project fear route and were ignored 😆😆😆

The right leader with the right narrative will get the public backing.
Time you checked the odds for the next leader....they are shortening by the day me ol fruit!

2 days ago JRM was 20/1

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-conservative-leader
 
Jason101 said:
This story holds the key to why the Tory party are losing ground and are so out of touch.

1. These remarks were made at the exclusive East India Club in St James Square, a few hundred yards from the Mall.

Membership Criteria

1. Letters from both proposer and seconder should accompany the application form stating fully the position of the candidate socially and otherwise, his qualifications for membership and the length of time they have known him, which should not ordinarily be less than two years.
2. It would be of assistance to the committee if the candidate could also be supported by members other than the proposer and seconder.
3. J7 applicants (those who apply for membership within 18 months of leaving a school affiliated to the Headmasters' Conference) may only be proposed by their Headmaster. No seconder is required.
4. The son of a member need only be proposed by his father. No seconder is required.
5. A candidate's proposer and seconder must have been members of the club for at least two years.
6. A candidate may be required to attend an interview.

Ladies
In accordance with its constitution, membership of the East India is available only to gentlemen.

2. Despite using the racist term, none of her fellow Tory panelists, including Tory MPs Bill Cash and John Redwood, reacted to it. It took an audience member to raise the issue.

3. In 2008 David Cameron came under pressure to withdraw the whip from Lord Dixon Smith after he used the same words in a House of Lords debate.

4. The irony of of holding this event in a club founded by the East India Company, which was founded off the back of slavery. And the further irony that Politeia, the Tory think tank holding the event, describes itself as “A forum for social and economic thinking”. 😆
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Her household has history too...

Last month this same Lady had to distance herself from comments made by her husband (and electoral agent) Roger Kendrick, who told a hustings event that “the crisis in education was due entirely to non-British-born immigrants and their high birth rates”
 
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Atilla said:
David Davis, Britain’s Brexit secretary, said he was “not really interested” in a transitional deal to cushion Britain from the effects of Brexit and that he would consider one only in order to “be kind” to the EU.

Who do we believe? Who can we trust? On the other hand...

Chancellor Philip Hammond and First Secretary of State Damian Green had said there will be a transition period of at least three years after Brexit, when the UK will remain under the jurisdiction of the Europe Court of Justice.



re. Boris Johnson
And he was asked if there was a strategy, either public or private, for what would happen if there was no agreement on Brexit.

"There is no plan for no deal because we are going to get a great deal," he replied.
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Really now!


They can't even stick to the same script and these cabinet ministers in the same cabinet room. 😆😆😆😆

Sort them out CV. 😉
 
Atilla said:
Really now!


They can't even stick to the same script and these cabinet ministers in the same cabinet room. 😆😆😆😆

Sort them out CV. 😉
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I intend too m8. Hence the petition. Get their hands all nicely bound up when the public tells them that signing up for billions in a divorce bill will be unacceptable. 🙂
 
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