Brexit and the Consequences

mike. said:
Getting along and tolerating are not the same thing.
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It's more than that... It's love. 😍😍

One in 10 couples now ethnically mixed, as number of diverse families soars by more than a third in a decade



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Atilla said:
It's more than that... It's love. 😍😍

One in 10 couples now ethnically mixed, as number of diverse families soars by more than a third in a decade


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Coitus does not mean people are consistently treating others in a compassionate, empathetic and civil manner, nor does admiration for an abstract ideal like approving of interracial marriage. The hard reality is humans behave much more selfishly and animalistic than self-reported studies of behavior and attitudes suggest, the liberal ideals do very little to change the DNA-based behavior. Observant forum members know all of this from deciphering the posting patterns here.
 
Hiya Jon,
barjon said:
Seems to me that it is much healthier for well being of the world that peoples and their nations come together rather than break apart. Worth a good few "inefficiencies" in my book and that's a small price to pay.
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Your comment is interesting as it's one given by many remainers for voting to stay in and used to criticise brexiteers for voting to leave. Personally, I don't view it that way. I believe it's possible to have one's cake and eat it, by which I mean it's possible for us (and other EU countries if they decide to leave) to operate as independent sovereign states whilst signing up to any number of treaties, protocols and agreements etc. that bind us together. So, by way of trite example, if the Italians want to use unpasteurised Buffalo milk in their Mozzarella cheese - they can. The Belgians won't buy it because they deem it to be a health risk and that's hard cheese for the Italians. (Contender for the worst pun of the year award?) However, both countries can sign up to the many things they do agree on - immigration, human rights and climate change - or whatever.

The point is that I and the many people who I know that voted to leave are not anti-Europe or anti-Europeans at all. On the contrary, we love 'em! It's the political monster that is the EU that we want a divorce from: not the individual countries or their peoples.

barjon said:
I'll be dead and gone before full ramifications of the Brexit project are worked through and it'll be left to my granchildren to curse you guys for your shortsightedness 😆
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Fear not Jon, I'm very confident that your grandchildren will be praising us for our foresight and leadership!
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Tim.
 
from timsk:
"I believe it's possible to have one's cake and eat it,"

Of course it is !
What is the point of having cake if you don't eat it ?!
 
timsk said:
I believe it's possible to have one's cake and eat it, by which I mean it's possible for us (and other EU countries if they decide to leave) to operate as independent sovereign states whilst signing up to any number of treaties, protocols and agreements etc. that bind us together.
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Whether or not this approach is successful, however, depends on what that sovereign state has to offer.
 
Schools are under severe financial pressure. Will it be worse three years from now? Or will people be able to afford private education in the new Britain.?
 
Splitlink said:
Schools are under severe financial pressure. Will it be worse three years from now? Or will people be able to afford private education in the new Britain.?
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Shame that Tony & Gordon committed so much future spending on school buildings via rip-off PFI. My leaky run down grammar school had dreadful buildings - but the education was topnotch. Always the same from teaching unions - the only answer to any problem is to throw more money at it.
 
Splitlink said:
Schools are under severe financial pressure. Will it be worse three years from now? Or will people be able to afford private education in the new Britain.?
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I don't see how it can get better.

The expectation is that we get control of our borders and stop 330K p/a new migrants and let the declining birth rates take effect.

Establish new grammar schools and segregate children at a young tender age as haves and have nots. More realistically like the gets and get knotteds.

Best that can be said about it - is that it is a plan of sorts. Much like Brexit. Let it be and it'll fix it self. Have we carried out any analysis or done any number crunching? Don't be silly, this is the Brexit cabinet we're talking about here. We hope and it'll become. We have the farce 👍
 
sminicooper said:
Shame that Tony & Gordon committed so much future spending on school buildings via rip-off PFI. My leaky run down grammar school had dreadful buildings - but the education was topnotch. Always the same from teaching unions - the only answer to any problem is to throw more money at it.
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Yes, well, you can expect more socialism in the future. They know how to spend other people's money. The problem is that the present government is skint.
 
There is money but it'll be spent on those who already have money so they can send their kids to grammar schools.

360m going to grammar schools whilst comprehensives get zilch.


PM's pet project. She's such a darling our TM. 😍😍😍

She wants an England that works for everyone and is fair and inclusive. Bless her little white cotton socks. Isn't she just so adorable. Some people say she's a lying but I believe her.
 
Atilla said:
There is money but it'll be spent on those who already have money so they can send their kids to grammar schools.

360m going to grammar schools whilst comprehensives get zilch.


PM's pet project. She's such a darling our TM. 😍😍😍

She wants an England that works for everyone and is fair and inclusive. Bless her little white cotton socks. Isn't she just so adorable. Some people say she's a lying but I believe her.
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The sad thing is that apart from some exceptional cases where they are good, the one size fits all comprehensives don't work. Why is it that with football and other sports, we seek out the most talented and train them accordingly but we feel guilty about doing it with our kids' brainpower?
 
sminicooper said:
The sad thing is that apart from some exceptional cases where they are good, the one size fits all comprehensives don't work. Why is it that with football and other sports, we seek out the most talented and train them accordingly but we feel guilty about doing it with our kids' brainpower?
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My children's school have different classes within the same comprehensive school for different abilities. I hear there are two different math levels.

Education is different and football is not the same. In football once a player is scouted into the team they get the same training. So I miss what point you are trying to make.


I also feel TM is using grammar school as a political gambit as a ruse to say Tory party gives you choice and rear that old typical labour tripe about them and us.

What we should have is a world class standard education system for all. That should be the ideal.


All this we give you choice sh1t is just trash for them and us. Divides country and nation and does not unite.
 
sminicooper said:
The sad thing is that apart from some exceptional cases where they are good, the one size fits all comprehensives don't work. Why is it that with football and other sports, we seek out the most talented and train them accordingly but we feel guilty about doing it with our kids' brainpower?
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Thinking is not a team sport, at least not the sort that has cheering sections in the bleachers, with the possible exception of robot wars.
 
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