Mike Baghdady - should I take a course or not?

[the hare]

You don't need a visa for Egypt.

I think Americans might need a visa.

Wasn't one of Baghdadys sales guys an American who previously worked for some shady US based outfit ? IIRC he and baghdady worked together at some point in the past.

Is this the same guy ?

 

[pboyles]

I think Americans might need a visa.

Wasn't one of Baghdadys sales guys an American who previously worked for some shady US based outfit ? IIRC he and baghdady worked together at some point in the past.

Is this the same guy ?

No they just give you the stamp on arrival, same for US citizens. Unless Les was travelling on an Israeli passport he had no need to wait for a visa.

Of course I know this because I once hid behind a fake Egyptian IP address as trader333 can confirm.

 

[kapitansb]

You don't need a visa for Egypt.

Go on, tell us more, this is the guy that was threatening us a couple of years ago for exposing Baghdady.

If you are interested ,why not? But have a flight in the morning ,so next days .Don't know if he was trained ,but used some kind of manipulation.

I decided to go on this presentation ,because I'm interested in trading opening range and they claim during online presentation that they specialize in it.

BTW ,I was two times (second time shortly before closing down-when they go through people from the past and try to sell them something) and this American guy (frankly very nice elderly man ),forgot his name was probably at the very end .
Les J.is British and as he said he was manager somewhere ,trading part time and was dreaming about meeting MB and go abroad to have a course and learn from him,and out of the sudden he found out that ,that Baghdady is planning to open his office in London .Because as he claimed he was experienced manager Baghdady hired him to help organize the offices .

What is funny now ,this American guy claimed ,that all three people (Ben Tuckey ,Mike Douglas &MB )are travelling around the world because business is rapidly expanding and they are running courses -as I remember somewhere in former Soviet Union,Australian and Japan .Ben T. &Mike D. were only two people in the world trained personally by MB in his methodology .

 

[pipsplease]

This is funny!!!

I attended the free training @Training Traders .

Introduction was from Les Johnson ,he told the story of himself .

Pipsplease do you remember all fairy tales you used to tell people ?How you was waiting for an Egyptian visa to go to learn from MB ,how you was trading using 21 rules (and you missed only one and instead of +50k was breakeven).
You introduced Mike Dougles and other staff -and everyone was losing money till you met your guru and started winning .
If you remember tell us again ,still have a moral problem who is worse ,a fraudster or people cooperating with him for profit .

Funny maybe, accurate - not!
When exactly did you attend the free training?
Were the turtles there and did you get to ask them anything?

 

[LaserTrader]

Open letter to:

Steve Anderton aka Steve – CEO
Paul Gould aka Sharky – Founder
Trader333 - Content Editor & Business Development
Tim Wilcox aka timsk - Content Manager

Regarding:
Trading Tools / Educational Resources / Mike Baghdady – should I take the course or not.


A while ago I attended a webinar by Mike Baghdady which came under attack from one or two people related (people who had posted) to this site. As well as off topic questions relating to personal details (possible bankruptcy in the past) there were a number of abusive posts. The intent appeared clear, it was an attempt to stop the webinar and stop the company demonstrating and explaining the product and ultimately stopping the company doing business.. There were around 100 people in the webinar and many people commented along the lines of shut up and let the presenter continue.

Following the webinar I visited this site and this forum and was appalled with what I saw. This thread was created and perpetuated by two ex-employees with a malicious intent Howard Abernethy (Digbyarbuthnot – 127 posts) and Les Johnston (Pipsplease – 205 posts).

I do not see a problem in people posting background information which is in the public interest (past bankruptcy case and inaccuracies in advertising), however it is wrong for people to attempt to associate other unfounded and defamatory claims to attempt to infer wrong doing. There have been many cases of the same information being reposted and quoted in an attempt to justify some slanderous claims.

It is worth noting that posts have not been made by customers of the company.
There are a number of posts which claim the company was operating a con or scam, these are very serous allegations. There has been no complaint from any customer to back this up.

In addition there have been a range of abusive posts resorting to name calling.

There have been a number of illegal and criminal actions relating to this thread (criminal damage, miss-use of company confidential material, contacting staff, customer and suppliers, attacks on webinars and of course defamatory statements) so I am surprised this site has been complicit in such actions.

This site has also facilitated in the organising of attacks on webinars which aimed at preventing a company doing business. As I previously mentioned the attacks included personal abuse (ref post #2568 by Pipsplease on Jan21 7:08am).

With reference to a post on March 6, 2013 at 5:13am (#2763) it would appear that this site is not just complicit, posters have the impression that the site is supporting their actions
“It's quite clear that practically anything goes these days. It's been a while since I've seen anything removed”

It would appear that Howard Abernethy (Digbyarbuthnot) is so confident in the support of this site and lack of action that would be taken he posted the electronic copy of the poster illegally posted on the company offices.


Legal, moral and ethical lines have been crossed and one would expect moderators of the site to have dealt with these cases. There are also many posts which breach your terms and conditions, again one would expect moderators to have dealt with this.

The owners of the site are ultimately responsible for the content of the site and forum.

The content of this forum is not what I would expect from a professional site. I am writing this open letter to bring the content to your attention.




Extract from Terms and conditions.

2.1 The use of inappropriate or offensive language is not permitted on the Forums and you agree not to use such language.

2.2 Inappropriate and offensive language includes, but is not limited to, any language or content that is sexually oriented, sexually suggestive or abusive, pornographic, harassing, defamatory, libellous, vulgar, obscene, insulting, threatening, profane, hateful, or that contains racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable material of any kind.

5.1 You agree not to use the Forum or the Private Mail System to violate any laws or to discuss illegal activities. This includes, but is not limited to, advocating or asking for information regarding software piracy, sharing or distributing viruses, licenses, registration information, software keys, "cracks," or other information designed to do harm to or allow unlawful access to any computer hardware, software, networks, or any other systems.

 

[pboyles]

Open letter to:

Steve Anderton aka Steve – CEO
Paul Gould aka Sharky – Founder
Trader333 - Content Editor & Business Development
Tim Wilcox aka timsk - Content Manager

Regarding:
Trading Tools / Educational Resources / Mike Baghdady – should I take the course or not.


A while ago I attended a webinar by Mike Baghdady which came under attack from one or two people related (people who had posted) to this site. As well as off topic questions relating to personal details (possible bankruptcy in the past) there were a number of abusive posts. The intent appeared clear, it was an attempt to stop the webinar and stop the company demonstrating and explaining the product and ultimately stopping the company doing business.. There were around 100 people in the webinar and many people commented along the lines of shut up and let the presenter continue.

Following the webinar I visited this site and this forum and was appalled with what I saw. This thread was created and perpetuated by two ex-employees with a malicious intent Howard Abernethy (Digbyarbuthnot – 127 posts) and Les Johnston (Pipsplease – 205 posts).

I do not see a problem in people posting background information which is in the public interest (past bankruptcy case and inaccuracies in advertising), however it is wrong for people to attempt to associate other unfounded and defamatory claims to attempt to infer wrong doing. There have been many cases of the same information being reposted and quoted in an attempt to justify some slanderous claims.

It is worth noting that posts have not been made by customers of the company.
There are a number of posts which claim the company was operating a con or scam, these are very serous allegations. There has been no complaint from any customer to back this up.

In addition there have been a range of abusive posts resorting to name calling.

There have been a number of illegal and criminal actions relating to this thread (criminal damage, miss-use of company confidential material, contacting staff, customer and suppliers, attacks on webinars and of course defamatory statements) so I am surprised this site has been complicit in such actions.

This site has also facilitated in the organising of attacks on webinars which aimed at preventing a company doing business. As I previously mentioned the attacks included personal abuse (ref post #2568 by Pipsplease on Jan21 7:08am).

With reference to a post on March 6, 2013 at 5:13am (#2763) it would appear that this site is not just complicit, posters have the impression that the site is supporting their actions
“It's quite clear that practically anything goes these days. It's been a while since I've seen anything removed”

It would appear that Howard Abernethy (Digbyarbuthnot) is so confident in the support of this site and lack of action that would be taken he posted the electronic copy of the poster illegally posted on the company offices.


Legal, moral and ethical lines have been crossed and one would expect moderators of the site to have dealt with these cases. There are also many posts which breach your terms and conditions, again one would expect moderators to have dealt with this.

The owners of the site are ultimately responsible for the content of the site and forum.

The content of this forum is not what I would expect from a professional site. I am writing this open letter to bring the content to your attention.




Extract from Terms and conditions.

2.1 The use of inappropriate or offensive language is not permitted on the Forums and you agree not to use such language.

2.2 Inappropriate and offensive language includes, but is not limited to, any language or content that is sexually oriented, sexually suggestive or abusive, pornographic, harassing, defamatory, libellous, vulgar, obscene, insulting, threatening, profane, hateful, or that contains racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable material of any kind.

5.1 You agree not to use the Forum or the Private Mail System to violate any laws or to discuss illegal activities. This includes, but is not limited to, advocating or asking for information regarding software piracy, sharing or distributing viruses, licenses, registration information, software keys, "cracks," or other information designed to do harm to or allow unlawful access to any computer hardware, software, networks, or any other systems.

Pipsplease may well be the Vicky Pryce of T2W but at the end of the day Mahmoud has nobody to blame but himself. He has told lie after lie and still can't stop, now he's blaming it all on the broker that went bust 6 months after the turtles collapsed.

 

[pboyles]

At this point I would like to invite LaserTrader to ask me any questions he may have with regards to Mike Baghdady, the Turtle Program,customers or the TT company as a whole.

As the Head of Sales prior to "the american chap" taking over, I have in indepth knowledge and experience of the whole lot.

I am able to confirm that a lot of my time was spent with customers asking for refunds, complaints, disputes with regards to the training offered by MB, traders leaving the trading floor, software license issues and questions relating to the turtle program, such as how much it would cost to join.

I know of at least 3 "Turtles" that paid £50K to join the program.
I know of 4 Traders that left the trading floor after making continuous losses under Mike's direct mentorship.
I know of several refunds that were processed after their complaints were escalated.

If you are generally interested in protecting the public from con men then ask what you must in relation to the business and its aims. Feel free to attack me regarding my ethics etc but that does not dilute the fact that MB knowingly defrauded many people.

My personal opinion is that you acting in the same way as all of Mike's early employees. He pays you, you defend him. I am positive that soon enough you will also buckle under the weight of BS that MB will lay on you.

Do you feel guilty about taking 50k off people under false pretences? That's enough to ruin someone's life isn't it?

Also you complained bitterly about how much Mahmoyd owes you but don't you think you owe your victims as well?

 

[pboyles]

And when you were spending a lot of time dealing with refunds were you immediately approving them or were you palming people off with a series of lies?

 

[Alfboy]

Do you feel guilty about taking 50k off people under false pretences? That's enough to ruin someone's life isn't it?

In hindsight I feel terrible.

I joined the company in January, had zero trading experience and by March was taking money off people on the belief that everything was legit.

I questioned the Bankruptcy and the forums prior to accepting the job and was told a pack of lies that "explained" why people had it in for MB. Scared of the competition etc.

The bankruptcy was explained a s a chapter 11 due to a case many years ago in the US.

I was not authorised to complete refunds. Only MB could process them.

 

[pipsplease]

open letter to:

steve anderton aka steve – ceo
paul gould aka sharky – founder
Trader333 - content editor & business development
tim wilcox aka timsk - content manager

regarding:
Trading tools / educational resources / mike baghdady – should i take the course or not.


A while ago i attended a webinar by mike baghdady which came under attack from one or two people related (people who had posted) to this site. who specifically do you refer to and why? As you seem to be someone that likes specifics then you should be able to name. as well as off topic questions relating to personal details (possible bankruptcy in the past) there were a number of abusive posts. The intent appeared clear, it was an attempt to stop the webinar and stop the company demonstrating and explaining the product and ultimately stopping the company doing business.. There were around 100 people in the webinar and many people commented along the lines of shut up and let the presenter continue.
and your point is? What does that event or indeed any other event have to do with this thread on trade2win?

following the webinar i visited this site and this forum and was appalled with what i saw. This thread was created and perpetuated by two ex-employees with a malicious intent howard abernethy (digbyarbuthnot – 127 posts) and les johnston (pipsplease – 205 posts).
do you have any evidence to back this claim? Again, as someone who seems to have the need to be specific i am sure you can provide such evidence. I am also sure that you would not wish to be bracketed with those you accuse of making unsubstantiated claims so look forward to the provision of evidence to back you claims. What is the "malicious intent" to which you refer?

i do not see a problem in people posting background information which is in the public interest (past bankruptcy case and inaccuracies in advertising), there is a lot more "background information" (facts) as you call it than you indicate here. however it is wrong for people to attempt to associate other unfounded and defamatory claims to attempt to infer wrong doing. There have been many cases of the same information being reposted and quoted in an attempt to justify some slanderous claims.
please indicate what "unfounded or defamatory claims" i have made on this site. It would be my pleasure to address each and every point you would wish to place in this category. Others can deal with their own but i sincerely look forward to you being more specific in the interests of fairness for the readers.

In the specific case of "slanderous claims" i once again would ask you to point out any such posts that i have made. Again, should you do so i would be happy to address any point made by yourself for the benefit of the readers. If i did make any such claims i would be only too willing to remove it without delay. Please furnish me with examples.

it is worth noting that posts have not been made by customers of the company.
There are a number of posts which claim the company was operating a con or scam, these are very serous allegations. There has been no complaint from any customer to back this up.
there are many complaints that were made against baghdady and both training traders and spyglass trading. Many were made on this forum and removed. Many were made at the business and to staff at the business. Why are you so sure that no complaints exist? A very strange and protective position to take without knowing any of the people who were involved at the business (or did you?)

in addition there have been a range of abusive posts resorting to name calling.

is that it??? I am sure slapbooby can take it. He gave enough out.

there have been a number of illegal and criminal actions relating to this thread (criminal damage, miss-use of company confidential material, contacting staff, customer and suppliers, attacks on webinars and of course defamatory statements) so i am surprised this site has been complicit in such actions.
again wide sweeping statements designed to impress. But they do not.
Please identify what, if anything is/was illegal and what was a criminal action?
Specifics would be useful and as you are that way inclined i am sure that you will have no problem being so.
Please clarify:
criminal damage - what damage?
miss-use of company confidential material. To what do you refer?
contacting staff customers and suppliers. Again, what are you on about?
attacks on webinars. What does that have to do with this forum?
defamatory statements. Please point out anything that i have said that is defamatory.


this site has also facilitated in the organising of attacks on webinars which aimed at preventing a company doing business. As i previously mentioned the attacks included personal abuse (ref post #2568 by pipsplease on jan21 7:08am).
not personal abuse but the giving of important information for anyone interested in attending. Since when does the wider promotion of a publically free to attend webinar constitute abuse???? It appears that the last webinar hosted on fx street by mr baghdady was well attended and given that sort of level of interest i am sure some on here and elsewhere would have been interested in attending again or maybe for a first time. They could then make up there own mind about the value or otherwise of what the great man had to say.

with reference to a post on march 6, 2013 at 5:13am (#2763) it would appear that this site is not just complicit, posters have the impression that the site is supporting their actions
“it's quite clear that practically anything goes these days. It's been a while since i've seen anything removed”

i am quite sure that trade2win would have removed anything that was not within their own rules. It is interesting that mr baghdady previously turned to lawyers in an attempt to have unwanted facts, comments, issues removed from this forum but has chosen not to do the same this time. Could it be that as he failed before, spent a lot of money doing so and in the end did not pay his lawyers - that he is resorting to more econmoical tactics this time? In case you wish to argue, this is not defamatory - it is fact!!!!!

it would appear that howard abernethy (digbyarbuthnot) is so confident in the support of this site and lack of action that would be taken he posted the electronic copy of the poster illegally posted on the company offices.
what is the great issue with this exactly???


legal, moral and ethical lines have been crossed and one would expect moderators of the site to have dealt with these cases. There are also many posts which breach your terms and conditions, again one would expect moderators to have dealt with this.
many legal, moral and ethical lines were crossed by mr baghdady and this forum and others have provided a platform for those looking to invest their hard earned cash in trading training to be better informed. I would have thought that if such lines had been crossed in this case then trade2win would have taken the appropriate action. It seems they are comfortable to keep this thread as is and allow you also to come on and make unsustantiated and unfounded, unproven statements about others. Pretty democratic really.

the owners of the site are ultimately responsible for the content of the site and forum.

the content of this forum is not what i would expect from a professional site. I am writing this open letter to bring the content to your attention.

pretty sure they are well aware of the content of this thread. You have merely helped in keeping it alive. I wonder why?




extract from terms and conditions.1

2.1 the use of inappropriate or offensive language is not permitted on the forums and you agree not to use such language.

2.2 inappropriate and offensive language includes, but is not limited to, any language or content that is sexually oriented, sexually suggestive or abusive, pornographic, harassing, defamatory, libellous, vulgar, obscene, insulting, threatening, profane, hateful, or that contains racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable material of any kind.

5.1 you agree not to use the forum or the private mail system to violate any laws or to discuss illegal activities. This includes, but is not limited to, advocating or asking for information regarding software piracy, sharing or distributing viruses, licenses, registration information, software keys, "cracks," or other information designed to do harm to or allow unlawful access to any computer hardware, software, networks, or any other systems.

111

 

[pboyles]

It is interesting that mr baghdady previously turned to lawyers in an attempt to have unwanted facts, comments, issues removed from this forum but has chosen not to do the same this time.

111

Actually as you well know he succeeded in getting everything deleted the first few times. You couldn't even mention his name without the post being deleted. That was about 2 to 3 years ago.

Remind me, where were you working at that time?

 

[Digbyarbuthnot]

Open letter to:

Steve Anderton aka Steve – CEO
Paul Gould aka Sharky – Founder
Trader333 - Content Editor & Business Development
Tim Wilcox aka timsk - Content Manager

Regarding:
Trading Tools / Educational Resources / Mike Baghdady – should I take the course or not.


A while ago I attended a webinar by Mike Baghdady which came under attack from one or two people related (people who had posted) to this site. As well as off topic questions relating to personal details (possible bankruptcy in the past) there were a number of abusive posts. The intent appeared clear, it was an attempt to stop the webinar and stop the company demonstrating and explaining the product and ultimately stopping the company doing business.. There were around 100 people in the webinar and many people commented along the lines of shut up and let the presenter continue.

Following the webinar I visited this site and this forum and was appalled with what I saw. Why? What appalled you? This thread was created and perpetuated by two ex-employees with a malicious intent Howard Abernethy (Digbyarbuthnot – 127 posts) and Les Johnston (Pipsplease – 205 posts).Can you prove this???

I do not see a problem in people posting background information which is in the public interest (past bankruptcy case and inaccuracies in advertising), however it is wrong for people to attempt to associate other unfounded and defamatory claims to attempt to infer wrong doing. Name any of themThere have been many cases of the same information being reposted and quoted in an attempt to justify some slanderous claims.Name anything posted about Mike Baghdady that is defamatory?

It is worth noting that posts have not been made by customers of the company. Incorrect. You'll find that there are.
There are a number of posts which claim the company was operating a con or scam, these are very serous allegations. There has been no complaint from any customer to back this up.If a customer is caught up in a fraud, how were they to know? EVERY SINGLE ONE of the customers I have spoken to have lost money and given up trading. NONE of them would have handed over a penny had they known that Mike Baghdady was a bankrupt (twice), convicted of common fraud, was NEVER the Head Trader at NYBOT (he was an analyst and NEVER traded), claimed he was the World Trading Champion (when it was a small regional competition in Germany), told falsehoods in his advertising (So much so that the broadcaster pulled the adverts) etc etc

In addition there have been a range of abusive posts resorting to name calling. Surely Mahmoud Baghdady, who also calls himself 'Mike' (NOT his real name) can handle that some messing about? Hasn't he worked on the trading floors of the world, famous for their macho culture and high-jinx? Oh no, that's right, he lied about that too. So I guess he would tell you how upset he is that he has been nicknamed Slap Boobies by members of the forum. I think you can add dog & donkey to the name-calling, but Mahmoud's a big boy and can handle himself due to his illustrious career on the world's trading floors. Oops, he didn't did he?

There have been a number of illegal and criminal actions relating to this thread (criminal damage, miss-use of company confidential material, contacting staff, customer and suppliers, attacks on webinars and of course defamatory statements) so I am surprised this site has been complicit in such actions.Please name any. What are these 'criminal' activities that have besmirched the clean character of Mahmoud Baghdady (convicted of common fraud and serial bankrupt)? Surely with his amazing financial might from his many years of successful trading he will be able to fight this in court? Oh sorry, I keep forgetting that he's a bankrupt and didn't even fund the Turtles properly nor personally like he proclaimed in many media interviews

This site has also facilitated in the organising of attacks on webinars which aimed at preventing a company doing business. Seriously? Do you think everyone here is a great collective willing people to fail? No, there are many caring folk who can see through the HUGE untruths that Mahmoud has said in his attempts to take thousands of pounds off people for his trainingAs I previously mentioned the attacks included personal abuse (ref post #2568 by Pipsplease on Jan21 7:08am).

With reference to a post on March 6, 2013 at 5:13am (#2763) it would appear that this site is not just complicit, posters have the impression that the site is supporting their actions
“It's quite clear that practically anything goes these days. It's been a while since I've seen anything removed”Take it to the court. I believe this is personal opinion which is the general point and reason of a forum. Whose opinion was this?

It would appear that Howard Abernethy (Digbyarbuthnot) is so confident in the support of this site and lack of action that would be taken he posted the electronic copy of the poster illegally posted on the company offices. Was the posting on the website or on the building brought to the attention of the police? What is illegal about posting on either? Please expand on your legal knowledge, stating any law or statue that was broken. Then inform the police that you'd like DigbyArbuthnot to be arrested


Legal, moral and ethical lines have been crossed and one would expect moderators of the site to have dealt with these cases. Personally, I have crossed no legal, moral or ethical line. Obviously I'm awaiting your response to prove any legal lines crossed. As for the moral or ethical lines, everyone has different boundaries, I think that Mahmoud's behaviour is FAR worse by taking peoples' money with false advertising claims, making up vast swathes of his professional history, assaulting staff, not paying creditors, lying about the failure and denouement of the Turtles, being bankrupt, having former staff members take you to court, getting Turtles to pay to be on the program, not funding it as you made great claim to in several interviews There are also many posts which breach your terms and conditions, again one would expect moderators to have dealt with this.Please name them. All these wild allegations without substance and back-up is getting tedious. Please can I have some facts? There are hundreds of pages and posts in here, please put some meat on the decaying bones of this open letter

The owners of the site are ultimately responsible for the content of the site and forum.

The content of this forum is not what I would expect from a professional site. I am writing this open letter to bring the content to your attention.That's your view. Trade2Win are the professionals in this matter and I'm sure that they've considered everything thoroughly




Extract from Terms and conditions.

2.1 The use of inappropriate or offensive language is not permitted on the Forums and you agree not to use such language.Language Timothy!

2.2 Inappropriate and offensive language includes, but is not limited to, any language or content that is sexually oriented, sexually suggestive or abusive, pornographic, harassing, defamatory, libellous, vulgar, obscene, insulting, threatening, profane, hateful, or that contains racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable material of any kind.Name any. Please add SUBSTANCE to the point that you're not making

5.1 You agree not to use the Forum or the Private Mail System to violate any laws or to discuss illegal activities. This includes, but is not limited to, advocating or asking for information regarding software piracy, sharing or distributing viruses, licenses, registration information, software keys, "cracks," or other information designed to do harm to or allow unlawful access to any computer hardware, software, networks, or any other systems.I've not seen any codes on this forum. Have you? Is Mahmoud concerned about his trading secrets being leaked? I'm having to guess your point once again because there doesn't seem to be one

Surely all of this terrible action against the whiter-than-white Mike Baghdady would result in him going to the police? I seem to remember that the only action involving Mike & the police was the time they visited his office after he assaulted a member of his staff.

I suggest that you take this matter IMMEDIATELY to the UK police and see if they arrest Les Johnston or Howard Abernethy on any of these 'charges' . If you would like to specifically name these allegations you make against these men, then the police can investigate and see if there is a case to answer - in court.

This open letter is nothing more that piffle and says nothing.

 

[LaserTrader]

At this point I would like to invite LaserTrader to ask me any questions he may have with regards to Mike Baghdady, the Turtle Program,customers or the TT company as a whole.

I am not daft enough to fall for cheap trick like the invitation to asks questions which probably should read, please give us an excuse to repost the same information again.

I explained my reasons for posting, I have made my point and do not see the value in being dragged into a discussion to perpetuate this thread.

 

[pipsplease]

I am not daft enough to fall for cheap trick like the invitation to asks questions which probably should read, please give us an excuse to repost the same information again.

I explained my reasons for posting, I have made my point and do not see the value in being dragged into a discussion to perpetuate this thread.

Oh, this would be the same lasertrader who has made a total of 23 posts - all of which have been about Mahmoud Baghdady!!!!!

"and do not see the value in being dragged into a discussion to perpetuate this thread"

23 posts - all about Baghdady and you don't see the value in perpetuating this thread!!!

Its all falling apart - is it not.

 

[the hare]

I explained my reasons for posting, I have made my point and do not see the value in being dragged into a discussion to perpetuate this thread.

Someone should pass on that advice to the scum who handle marketing and promotion for MB....

Unless they're trying to create a case study in how not to handle social media, because they're doing a fantastic job of trashing his reputation !

Perhaps someone is paying them too ! Nothing would surprise me at that end of the market.

 

[BobbyBB]

Following the webinar I visited this site and this forum and was appalled with what I saw.

Don't come back then if you don't approve. The web can be a dirty place :cheesy:

 

[Digbyarbuthnot]

I am not daft enough to fall for cheap trick like the invitation to asks questions which probably should read, please give us an excuse to repost the same information again.

I explained my reasons for posting, I have made my point and do not see the value in being dragged into a discussion to perpetuate this thread.

So do you think you are superior to us that you refuse to answer questions that should be simple to answer?

As well as the many questions I raised in my previous post in response to your open letter, I have one very simple one I'd like to ask you....

Did you ever pay for a trading course with Mike Baghdady? A simple Yes or No will suffice

I ask for a very pertinent reason. If you came into the realm of Baghdady via a webinar and then saw this forum with its overwhelming evidence and plethora of fact, did that make you more or less likely to pay for a course taught by him?

 

[pipsplease]

"In 2010, Mike Baghdady, chose 20 highly motivated, exceedingly ambitious, exceptionally focused and extremely well-committed people who possessed a high "success probability” from over 10,000 applicants and turned them ALL into capable, competent, seriously-impressive traders."


For lasertrader, riddick and anyone else who questions what has been claimed about Mike Baghdady.


This is from Baghdadys Training Traders website. Go look for yourself.
It is a current example of the man lying in order to solicit business. What would any fair minded person call this?
He did not turn them ALL into capable, competent, seriously-impressive traders. This was confirmed by some of the turtles themselves!!!! Get it!!!!

An up to date example of false claim in order to solicit business.

 

[pipsplease]

"This experiment ended prematurely because all their trading accounts were held at PFGBEST.
And, the rest is trading history."

Another one for lasertrader and riddick.
Another one from the current website. Another lie.
This is fraud pure and simple!!!

The turtle scam (a dishonest scheme - Oxford English Dictionary) was exactly that.
It ended months before PFG went bust. The history has been told on this forum much to Mr Baghdadys ire.
Long may it be so.

 

[pboyles]

"In 2010, Mike Baghdady, chose 20 highly motivated, exceedingly ambitious, exceptionally focused and extremely well-committed people who possessed a high "success probability” from over 10,000 applicants and turned them ALL into capable, competent, seriously-impressive traders."


For lasertrader, riddick and anyone else who questions what has been claimed about Mike Baghdady.


This is from Baghdadys Training Traders website. Go look for yourself.
It is a current example of the man lying in order to solicit business. What would any fair minded person call this?
He did not turn them ALL into capable, competent, seriously-impressive traders. This was confirmed by some of the turtles themselves!!!! Get it!!!!

An up to date example of false claim in order to solicit business.

So 'success probability' is the new way of saying 'I've got 50 grand to burn'?