Mike Baghdady - should I take a course or not?

[pboyles]

I do not have anything good to say about Baghdady and TT because they are no better than rogue builders who rip off pensioners.

Baghdady took money from people, in some cases up to £50,000, based partly at least on false claims of his own abilities and trading history. Why should he be allowed to carry on unmolested? Rogue builders need to make a living too, I hope if you relations are targeted by such people you will stand by and say nothing, as you are claiming we should do here.

By the way why is trading more difficult in a recession?

 

[Riddick]

I do not have anything good to say about Baghdady and TT because they are no better than rogue builders who rip off pensioners.

Baghdady took money from people, in some cases up to £50,000, based partly at least on false claims of his own abilities and trading history. Why should he be allowed to carry on unmolested? Rogue builders need to make a living too, I hope if you relations are targeted by such people you will stand by and say nothing, as you are claiming we should do here.

By the way why is trading more difficult in a recession?

Have you ever tried to open up a shop during a recession? Especially this recession, people are frightened and rightly so, things that were blue chip are not so any more look at what has happened to the gold standard elite of the banking world, everybody has been affected by the collapse of the CDO market.

PBoyles training costs money and you get what you pay for, and thought I have read all of this forum and I am trying to understand your perspective I do not understand why you are so resolute in your attack. Baghdady trained people to trade using a simple system. I know that the product is good. There were 2 types of courses that could be taken,
1) a day trading course with proper software to support the methodology
2) a position trading course again with proper software to support the methodology.
Distinct methods with their own curriculum and characteristics to support the idea of Price Behaviour.

 

[pboyles]

Have you ever tried to open up a shop during a recession? Especially this recession, people are frightened and rightly so, things that were blue chip are not so any more look at what has happened to the gold standard elite of the banking world, everybody has been affected by the collapse of the CDO market.

PBoyles training costs money and you get what you pay for, and thought I have read all of this forum and I am trying to understand your perspective I do not understand why you are so resolute in your attack. Baghdady trained people to trade using a simple system. I know that the product is good. There were 2 types of courses that could be taken,
1) a day trading course with proper software to support the methodology
2) a position trading course again with proper software to support the methodology.
Distinct methods with their own curriculum and characteristics to support the idea of Price Behaviour.

But people didn't get what they paid for. They paid to be trained by a millionaire trader who had been world champion. The paid to be trained by someone who had trained Ben Tuckey to be a hedge fund manager.

What they got was training from a guy who has one bankruptcy for $5 million behind him, a court award against him for common law fraud and a history of telling downright lies in his advertising. On top of that the Turtles, who were supposed to be trained and mentored by him failed miserably.

Do you think if they knew the truth they would have signed up and handed over their money?

 

[wackypete2]

But people didn't get what they paid for. They paid to be trained by a millionaire trader who had been world champion. The paid to be trained by someone who had trained Ben Tuckey to be a hedge fund manager.

What they got was training from a guy who has one bankruptcy for $5 million behind him, a court award against him for common law fraud and a history of telling downright lies in his advertising. On top of that the Turtles, who were supposed to be trained and mentored by him failed miserably.

Do you think if they knew the truth they would have signed up and handed over their money?

You forgot that he wasn't even a real trader himself. His publicly available personal bankruptcy documents show ZERO income from trading.

Peter

 

[Riddick]

But people didn't get what they paid for. They paid to be trained by a millionaire trader who had been world champion. The paid to be trained by someone who had trained Ben Tuckey to be a hedge fund manager.

What they got was training from a guy who has one bankruptcy for $5 million behind him, a court award against him for common law fraud and a history of telling downright lies in his advertising. On top of that the Turtles, who were supposed to be trained and mentored by him failed miserably.

Do you think if they knew the truth they would have signed up and handed over their money?

Trading has it's pitfalls that is why when you went into the office to test the system on the bank of computers that Mike Baghdady provided that it said across the screen "This is not a game, always manage your Risk"
Having studied Risk Management this is a very astute statement as there are many different risks to manage.
A team was put together there were people with different capabilities and skills on that team.

Baghdady was training people how to trade long before the advertising campaign that you did not like so much. He did train Ben in trading and Ben really got a lot from the course that he took with Mike, I heard him say in all honesty that though he had been trading for many years before he met Mike that his first month implementing the Rules that he learned from Mike were the most profitable of his trading career to date, not alone that he went and put his own reputation on the line and went into the Turtle Experiment.

The turtles was an experiment. I really wanted to see how they would fair. Some of them were successful in the short period of time that they had. They needed more time to really demonstrate their skills and the volume of information that they had been given. I really would have liked to have seen more of them, I believe that some of them are still trading all be it using the skills that Baghdady gave to them which were training for life.

I still do not understand why you here on T2W are ganging up on Baghdady? To what end? Where do you see this going what do you hope to achieve by it?

 

[Riddick]

You forgot that he wasn't even a real trader himself. His publicly available personal bankruptcy documents show ZERO income from trading.

Peter

When I met him he was using TradeStation and had designed the software to work on that platform.
TradeStation is not free there is a monthly charge to use it or you have to place a certain number of trades using them as the broker.

 

[wackypete2]

When I met him he was using TradeStation and had designed the software to work on that platform.
TradeStation is not free there is a monthly charge to use it or you have to place a certain number of trades using them as the broker.

How does that relate to no income? He couldn't make enough money trading to cover commissions and fees?

Look at it this way. If you eliminate what you consider wild accusations and just look at what is factually documented wouldn't that give any reasonable person SOME cause for concern? We're not talking about 1 mistake from years ago or a simple booking error. There are plenty of documented issues that point to something wrong.

Peter

 

[Riddick]

How does that relate to no income? He couldn't make enough money trading to cover commissions and fees?

Look at it this way. If you eliminate what you consider wild accusations and just look at what is factually documented wouldn't that give any reasonable person SOME cause for concern? We're not talking about 1 mistake from years ago or a simple booking error. There are plenty of documented issues that point to something wrong.

Peter

I am concerned, this is not a court room this forum is not a legitimate regulated news medium with registered journalists. It is not fair to be attacking a person and analysing his personal non public accounts in random fashion and attacking anybody who puts forward anything to say in his favour, saying such comments like how could you be associated with that person etc.

I like writing very much and I have participated in many internet forums, and found lots of useful information in doing so. I have felt like PBoyles about issues also, and I don't mean to be coming in here like a caped crusader taking either one side or another, I am trying to be objective here. Social media is such a fascinating medium of communication, but I do not like to see it used for character assasination. And that is what has been happening here to a large extent.

In order to learn, sometimes you have to ask the right questions.

 

[Lightning McQueen]

I am concerned, this is not a court room this forum is not a legitimate regulated news medium with registered journalists. It is not fair to be attacking a person and analysing his personal non public accounts in random fashion and attacking anybody who puts forward anything to say in his favour, saying such comments like how could you be associated with that person etc.

I like writing very much and I have participated in many internet forums, and found lots of useful information in doing so. I have felt like PBoyles about issues also, and I don't mean to be coming in here like a caped crusader taking either one side or another, I am trying to be objective here. Social media is such a fascinating medium of communication, but I do not like to see it used for character assasination. And that is what has been happening here to a large extent.

had he not seen fit to use this forum to try spam his adverts, then maybe none of this would have started. an inconsistancy was spotted, you bluffers tried to get the reported inconsistancy removed.. and several threads later we are here.

if you clowns weren't cheap skates you'd have employed a proper social media specialist, instead of the size 10 one size fits all approch to your media management and adverts. your ads were gash, you shot yourselves in the foot big time.

 

[Atilla]

I am concerned, this is not a court room this forum is not a legitimate regulated news medium with registered journalists. It is not fair to be attacking a person and analysing his personal non public accounts in random fashion and attacking anybody who puts forward anything to say in his favour, saying such comments like how could you be associated with that person etc.

I like writing very much and I have participated in many internet forums, and found lots of useful information in doing so. I have felt like PBoyles about issues also, and I don't mean to be coming in here like a caped crusader taking either one side or another, I am trying to be objective here. Social media is such a fascinating medium of communication, but I do not like to see it used for character assasination. And that is what has been happening here to a large extent.

In order to learn, sometimes you have to ask the right questions.

I'm concerned despite you claiming to be savy about media forums you can subsequently come out with rubbish like this;

1. This is not a court room
2. This forum is not a legitimate regulated news medium with registered journalists.

If you want legitimate regulated news medium I suggest you go and buy Mr Murdochs papers or listen to the select committee enquiry.



Do you know the difference between free speech, public forum, a court room and Hyde Park corner?


What's your angle? You working for the Smaritans or Baghdady?

 

[Atilla]

I am a trader I work for myself. I am looking to develop a career in Social media and I like big dogs

Haha now you are talking my language...

I thought I'd seen you at Hyde Park Corner pissing behind that tree on the left?

 

[Lightning McQueen]

Maybe a social media specialist was employed but botched the job and a replacement had to be found during which time, T2W was not covered and this long and unstructured forum was allowed to fester? Just saying?

i disagree, as the mod on duty when they first arrived and we were spammed by baghdady, i can categorically state they didn't have a scooby what they were doing from the off, and done a crap job of managing it since.

mind you, i expect the best social media manager would have a difficult job with those lame ducks... quack!! if it walks like... talks like... etc. etc :whistling

 

[Riddick]

i disagree, as the mod on duty when they first arrived and we were spammed by baghdady, i can categorically state they didn't have a scooby what they were doing from the off, and done a crap job of managing it since.

mind you, i expect the best social media manager would have a difficult job with those lame ducks... quack!! if it walks like... talks like... etc. etc :whistling

That is my point scooby, social media is an evolving form of communication and if you ain't got something good to say dont say anything at all. Power of positive thinking and all of that it is by an author called Norman Vincent Peale.

 

[the hare]

That is my point scooby, social media is an evolving form of communication and if you ain't got something good to say dont say anything at all. Power of positive thinking and all of that it is by an author called Norman Vincent Peale.

Why the hell should anyone keep quiet ?

MB and the morons who work for him and support him are a cancer that needs cutting out of all trading forums.

 

[Lightning McQueen]

That is my point scooby, social media is an evolving form of communication and if you ain't got something good to say dont say anything at all. Power of positive thinking and all of that it is by an author called Norman Vincent Peale.

it's not about saying only what is good but about saying what is right, if they'd followed that mantra throughout there organisation, there'd have been none of this.

but all that is apparent are falsehoods from them in their attempt at promoting themselves.

i was really disapointed in their turtle efforts, the idea, even though done before, was exciting and would have been interesting to follow. i guess that it wasn't to be and looking back at the history of this outfit i should have known better than to try follow it, not that there was much to follow but the hype. really disapointing that they ended up just sullying the turtle story

 

[Ross Spur]

That is my point scooby, social media is an evolving form of communication and if you ain't got something good to say dont say anything at all. Power of positive thinking and all of that it is by an author called Norman Vincent Peale.

What's a 'social media', and is there such a thing as an unsocial media or an anti-social media:?:

 

[Atilla]

What's a 'social media', and is there such a thing as an unsocial media or an anti-social media:?:

He is just bursting to tell us isn't he?

Can't wait... :clap::clap::clap:

 

[pboyles]

I am concerned, this is not a court room this forum is not a legitimate regulated news medium with registered journalists. It is not fair to be attacking a person and analysing his personal non public accounts in random fashion and attacking anybody who puts forward anything to say in his favour, saying such comments like how could you be associated with that person etc.

I like writing very much and I have participated in many internet forums, and found lots of useful information in doing so. I have felt like PBoyles about issues also, and I don't mean to be coming in here like a caped crusader taking either one side or another, I am trying to be objective here. Social media is such a fascinating medium of communication, but I do not like to see it used for character assasination. And that is what has been happening here to a large extent.

In order to learn, sometimes you have to ask the right questions.

Lets face it, they were a bunch of amateurs.

 

[pboyles]

Anybody know this clown Abdel Hosni? I just came across an old screenshot from the Turtles Facebook page. He was saying how the turtles would all have $200 million in ten years. Perhaps not the most accurate of predictions. Now hes running a forex scheme called papapips.com


Abdel Hosni - France | LinkedIn

 

[Atilla]

Anybody know this clown Abdel Hosni? I just came across an old screenshot from the Turtles Facebook page. He was saying how the turtles would all have $200 million in ten years. Perhaps not the most accurate of predictions. Now hes running a forex scheme called papapips.com


Abdel Hosni - France | LinkedIn

Hmmm sounds like the smurfs - similar to babypips.com Forex Trading Online: Foreign Exchange (FX) Trading | Currency Trading

However, I like this site as it has in big capital letters the following warning.

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