Agreed SC. Too many vested interests and some sort of compromise is the higher probability.
Only reason for veto-ing deal imo is to facilitate the Article 50 revocation which is the ideal outcome and one that Blair is pushing for.
LOL I'm sure they are all fine upright standing ladies n gentlemen of the finest pure white breed.
No matey - you know my sentiments and where I stand right from the start. His views just happens to coincide with mine that's all.
I was merely stating if France or any other nation does veto the extension then you can bet your pension Parliament will go for revocation. Far too much money at stake for the big boys. Moggy is just a wet wipe.
By the way just out of interest when Ireland had the referendum and opted out due to some daft religious belief about EU legalising abortion - which in it self has absolute zilch to do with EU and then took the vote again and decided to stay, Moggy made a big song and dance about how it is the EU that makes these countries like Greece and Ireland take the vote again.
As you can see including with the UK, it's not the EU but the actual countries that dither, think about it and then realise politicians are taking them for a ride and then reverse decision realising EU membership is better than relying solely on their own politicians. Probably because collective leadership much like a cooperative, works better than a private monopoly run by some egoistic power crazed self righteous politician.
Anyhow my point is - has anyone realised how Ireland isn't thinking about leaving the EU, braking rank or giving the UK the offer of even just one straw to grasp at. NO! They are not. They are happy in EU and prepared to hold the line.
Must make you think and wonder about what all that self righteous speel that Moggy twit gave you all. CV didn't half like his hot posts and youtube clips. Look at him now. Look at Govey. I wonder if CV still has his head up Moggy's rear?
You Brexiteers better pick your leaders well as I like to remind you. Don't have much of a crop do you.
Now you are waiting for your UKIP nobs. As if they are anything remotely reasonable or principled politician type like Corbyn is? I'll bet you most of them will be hoo haarrr we are sexist proud hooligan types. By the way Farage and UKIP aren't they divorced now? Just wondering how they will get to share the booty vote?
Right pigs dinner it's going to be. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. Here comes the UKIP boys. Fragmented parliament with lots of noise. All they need to do is get elected, get rid of the HoLs and make some brave and bold new laws - then we'll all be well and trully, really, really stuffed.
View attachment 261781 we have to look forward to...
Oh dear! I must be having a Jon Snow Sherlock moment stating the obvious. How bad of me. Ooopsy.
However, to suggest I hold extreme views is just a little incy wincy bit of an exaggeration.
Am I a racist? I don't know perhaps I'm having an identity crises. I'll have to ponder about that one?
I think I do. It's about identity right. It's not about the economy or politicians yes.
However, to me it is about the national interest and how that national interest feeds through the UK populace.
Issue I have is how should National Interest be measured? How does one quantify happiness, health and simply well being.
That's a tough one. Measuring cars, number of mobile phones or infant mortality deaths just doesn't seem to work well.
Must dash...
Here's some more racists (I'm having trouble figuring out what race has to do with Brexit, maybe a leftie can explain)?
Hi SC,
From my perspective, I'm afraid you still don't understand the errors of judgement that is inherent in public perception of our politicians. You are also in denial about our great parliament and how it works.
First off Cameron or Osborn saying they'll do this and they'll do that are simply campaign pledges. What they say does not become law. What any politician says does not become law and should not be perceived in that way.
imo Politicians are a little like tortured souls who will say anything to get and retain power. So when Boris said they'll give £350m to the NHS on the side of that red bus, he really should have also said Wales will no longer get regional aid from the EU rebates because ALL of it will be given to the NHS. Then the Welsh Assembly and people could have made a real informed vote on Brexit. As it happens they too are not happy. Scotts and NI peeps aren't happy either. So many broken promises on all sides.
You see these campaign slogans and words and so called promises aren't really what they are made up to be. They do not become law - until our Sovereign Parliament gets to debate and vote on those expressions of interest before it does.
So all those people out their banging their drum about the narrow referendum vote (purely advisory) for Parliament to debate and vote on simply DO NOT understand and equally worse do not recognise the other 48% of the vote to remain in.
Cameron did recognise that he made a grave error of judgement and stepped down because he realised he told a pack of lies and could not deliver, had no desire to deliver and no doubt understood what it meant to even attempt to deliver Brexit.
Simple Brexit indeed. Easiest in History. Rest of the World queuing up to Trade with us.
In fact, I heard one lady on telly the other night who said Italy has now piped down rhetoric after EU citizens have seen what a mess the great UK government have become after their love affair over Brexit. No more desire in their politicians trumpeting Italy to leave the EU. So Brexit is really helping the unification and solidarity amongst members in the EU.
Having said all that, our politicians are NOT anti-democratic. They are simply doing their job with Parliament looking out for the interest of the nation representing the true will of the people coz lies will not be tolerated in Parliament unlike our MSM media which you are so fond of selective promotion.
fwiw I saw Tim Loughton few days ago with just 'one' of his minions. Yesterday evening I saw Labour peeps wearing their rosettes calling door to door along Brighton Road. I counted 5 on one street. Window posters already up. Labour working hard. Tories becoming endangered species, facing extinction around here.
I do like the independents and really adore Anna Soubry. I'd love to sit next to her.
