Asian Coronavirus Outbreak

[Signalcalc]

China admits culpability.

China Threatens Australian Consumer Embargo Over Coronavirus Inquiry

The Chinese Communist Party is threatening a boycott of imports of Australian wine and beef if the country pushes ahead with an inquiry into the origins

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[Pat494]

China admits culpability.

China Threatens Australian Consumer Embargo Over Coronavirus Inquiry

The Chinese Communist Party is threatening a boycott of imports of Australian wine and beef if the country pushes ahead with an inquiry into the origins

order-order.com

They just won't face up to their responsibilities and admit the truth.
However it is very important for Ozz to trade with China. I expect the call for an inquiry will be kicked into the long grass and forgotten if possible.

 

[Signalcalc]

Our worst fears have arrived, they only have to make a vaccine mandatory and the Stasi will ensure it is applied.

 

[cantagril]

Donald's suggestion about drinking bleach may not be entirely stupid - I failed to rinse a cup that my infinitely better half had deep cleaned and it gave my morning coffee quite a kick....so, he might actually be onto something - it remains to be seen whether my survival is in anyway affected by an enormous hole in my stomach but rest assured I will keep you posted.

 

[barjon]

The Office of National Statistics report 22,351 deaths in England and Wales for the week up 17 April. This is DOUBLE the average in previous years. If the doubters believe this is nothing to do with covid19 then they really must be living in cloud cuckoo land.

’Course I expect the ONS have falsified the figures on the direction of an evil government intent on creating a Marxist dictatorship and destroying the country’s economy for years to come. Yeah, right.

 

[Signalcalc]

The Office of National Statistics report 22,351 deaths in England and Wales for the week up 17 April. This is DOUBLE the average in previous years. If the doubters believe this is nothing to do with covid19 then they really must be living in cloud cuckoo land.

’Course I expect the ONS have falsified the figures on the direction of an evil government intent on creating a Marxist dictatorship and destroying the country’s economy for years to come. Yeah, right.

Since when did dying of something, but then adding 'with covid19' because you tested positive, be a statistic that anyone can work with, never mind base policy decisions on?

Anyone with basic math(s) can see that this headline figure is meaningless drivel.

 

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I see millions of the gullible are lapping up any Covid tracking app they can find, at least they will be allowed food when it becomes state controlled.

 

[MasterOfCoin]

The Office of National Statistics report 22,351 deaths in England and Wales for the week up 17 April. This is DOUBLE the average in previous years. If the doubters believe this is nothing to do with covid19 then you really must be living in cloud cuckoo land.

Official Data:

I'm perfectly happy to use the official data, it shows quite the picture

Covid19 is a killer, no one is sayng it's not. What we ARE saying is that it's scale is being vastly and unreasonably exaggerated out of all proportion to it's actual significance.

With also merits the question, if Covid19 warrants this massive response, then surely the Government is guilty of a profound negligence of it's core duty of care in previous recent epidemics, which have killed MORE people.

 

[Signalcalc]

Plenty of anecdotes about people dying of Covid19 who had long term underlying conditions, when the families are questioning why Covid19 is being recorded as the cause of death the standard response from the doctors is that they have been told to put Covid19 on the death certificate.

Overinflation of figures coupled with MSM fear porn is the name of the game.

 

[Signalcalc]

Our worst fears have arrived, they only have to make a vaccine mandatory and the Stasi will ensure it is applied.

No questions, no debate, just brought into legislature, that's UK democracy at work. So as soon as this 'situation' is over, all the changes made are to be reversed?

45G & 45H are the especially worrying items.

Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984

An Act to consolidate certain enactments relating to the control of disease and to the establishment and functions of port health authorities, including enactments relating to burial and cremation and to the regulation of common lodging–houses and canal boats, with amendments to give effect to...

www.legislation.gov.uk

 

[barjon]

Since when did dying of something, but then adding 'with covid19' because you tested positive, be a statistic that anyone can work with, never mind base policy decisions on?

Anyone with basic math(s) can see that this headline figure is meaningless drivel.

So would you like to suggest what caused the doubling of the weekly deaths? Their figure does not specify cause of death, merely the number and that’s not meaningless drivel.

ps: in relation to your later post I don’t suppose you saw the NHS directI’ve telling doctors NOT to specify covid19 where there were other causes.

 

[Signalcalc]

The Office of National Statistics report 22,351 deaths in England and Wales for the week up 17 April. This is DOUBLE the average in previous years. If the doubters believe this is nothing to do with covid19 then they really must be living in cloud cuckoo land.

’Course I expect the ONS have falsified the figures on the direction of an evil government intent on creating a Marxist dictatorship and destroying the country’s economy for years to come. Yeah, right.

Has the ONS provided any figures for the number of people without any underlying health conditions that have died as a result of Covid19?

No? Why not?

Whilst the ONS have probably not falsified any figures, it's what they omit to analyse that is far more worrying.

I guess if that figure could be produced (extremely unlikely), then it would be so insignificant as to not even register.

Can the ONS produce figures for deaths as a result of any strain of any virus with no underlying health conditions?

 

[Signalcalc]

So would you like to suggest what caused the doubling of the weekly deaths? Their figure does not specify cause of death, merely the number and that’s not meaningless drivel.

ps: in relation to your later post I don’t suppose you saw the NHS directI’ve telling doctors NOT to specify covid19 where there were other causes.

I made an earlier post about how figures are normally reported by the NHS, they will pull forward figures from many weeks ago to bring the figures up to date.

So in effect, it is impossible for any statement to be made about the figures at all, other than 'here is the totality of all deaths for this period of reporting'

Let me know when you can draw some conclusions and we'll examine it again. Until then, the figures are meaningless.

 

[barjon]

Official Data:
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I'm perfectly happy to use the official data, it shows quite the picture

Covid19 is a killer, no one is sayng it's not. What we ARE saying is that it's scale is being vastly and unreasonably exaggerated out of all proportion to it's actual significance.

With also merits the question, if Covid19 warrants this massive response, then surely the Government is guilty of a profound negligence of it's core duty of care in previous recent epidemics, which have killed MORE people.

So, as I said to signal, would you care to explain the doubling of deaths for that week?

your graph is comparing a full season’s deaths against the few weeks of covI’d whose ”season” has only been going a few weeks and, of course, with its impact severely restricted by the lockdown measures

 

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ps: in relation to your later post I don’t suppose you saw the NHS directI’ve telling doctors NOT to specify covid19 where there were other causes.

Have you got a link to the directive?

 

[Signalcalc]

So, as I said to signal, would you care to explain the doubling of deaths for that week?

your graph is comparing a full season’s deaths against the few weeks of covI’d whose ”season” has only been going a few weeks and, of course, with its impact severely restricted by the lockdown measures

How are you managing to draw a conclusion that the Covid season has been impacted by the lockdown?

 

[barjon]

How are you managing to draw a conclusion that the Covid season has been impacted by the lockdown?

common sense

 

[barjon]

Have you got a link to the directive?

no it was shown on the BBC news some days ago when it was suggested that there were more cases (care homes etc) than recorded. The care homes bit is indeed now coming home to roost or is that another hoax?

 

[Signalcalc]

common sense

As good an analysis as any, in fact on a par with UKGov I would guess

 

[Signalcalc]

no it was shown on the BBC news some days ago when it was suggested that there were more cases (care homes etc) than recorded. The care homes bit is indeed now coming home to roost or is that another hoax?

Sorry, I almost spat my tea over the keyboard over that one, nice try

BBC & Hoax in the same para