What will HowardCohodas's month on month return be for March?

[DashRiprock]

Sadly, one or two members struggle to differentiate between constructive criticism and lulz. Polite and constructive criticism of someone's methodology - regardless of who it is - is fine and to be encouraged. Such criticism deserves respect and is likely to get a response. By contrast, posting rude and lulzy comments is counter-productive and unhelpful. It's annoying and offensive to the person it's aimed at and, unsurprisingly, they don't reply. More lulz then ensues and - this is the best bit - T2W admin and Mods get the blame! If you're addicted to lulz - you have my sympathy, but please don't blame others for your condition, or try and justify it by saying you're doing it for the benefit of the forum or gullible newbies etc. Newbies - gullible or otherwise - are repelled by it. And there's the irony. Far from saving them from the clutches of evil vendors, lulz drives them into their welcoming arms.
Tim.

Sadly, the mods / content managers can't read the f*cking thread and decipher all the complicated optiony words that were banded about before lulz ensued.

 

[counter_violent]

Do you have any objective evidence of to back up that claim ?

Yes, the whole wasp saga...and you really need to think about this !

 

[timsk]

Sadly, the mods / content managers can't read the f*cking thread and decipher all the complicated optiony words that were banded about before lulz ensued.

This is a perfect illustration of the point I was making!

Tim.

 

[robster970]

Stop pouring fuel on the fire. Howard's success or failure will ultimately determine his fate.

 

[the hare]

This is a perfect illustration of the point I was making!

Tim.

I have a PM from a moderator who admits he knows "bugger all about options" and those are his own words. Thats a perfect illustration of the point Dash was making

T2W are in a hole, and yet you keep digging.

 

[DashRiprock]

This is a perfect illustration of the point I was making!

Tim.

If you had read (and understood) the thread, it would be clear to you how comprehensively Howard's strategy was broken down into its component parts and demonstrated to be nothing more than a system of trading options at their fair prices without any rationale, all the while crossing spreads and paying commissions.

If you didn't get that part, go and have another read of it. It is covered by about a dozen people including me.

Then, after Howard has been arguing that white is black and reveals that he intends to teach this to others, the lulz begins. Oh, thats also when Trade 2 win decide to interview him.

 

[the hare]

Then, after Howard has been arguing that white is black and reveals that he intends to teach this to others, the lulz begins. Oh, thats also when Trade 2 win decide to interview him.

And the people who sanctioned and published that interview have the nerve to accuse others of posting lulz

 

[timsk]

Do you have any objective evidence of to back up that claim ?

Hi the hare,
Of course not! It's just my opinion. But I'll wager there are plenty of members who agree with me. And that's the point, everything is personal opinion. I respect yours (for the most part ) and I hope you respect mine. Unfortunately, not all members are able to do this. When others fail to agree with them or, heaven forbid, put forward a contrary view, they resort to offensive lulz. Some members might like it, but I suspect many more won't.

It's worth me repeating - I'm no killjoy. Light hearted lulz - in moderation - is absolutely fine and can lighten a rather serious and arid subject. I even like some of DR's! But that's very different to some of the stuff directed at HC and bbmac. All in my (very) humble opinion of course.
Tim.

 

[scose-no-doubt]

Sadly, one or two members struggle to differentiate between constructive criticism and lulz.

Mutual exclusivity? IMO, nón?

Polite and constructive criticism of someone's methodology - regardless of who it is - is fine and to be encouraged. Such criticism deserves respect and is likely to get a response. By contrast, posting rude and lulzy comments is counter-productive and unhelpful. It's annoying and offensive to the person it's aimed at and, unsurprisingly, they don't reply.

As somebody who was following Howard's threads from early on, I know that inquiry and polite, constructive criticism are how the ball got rolling in terms of member contribution. Then, as a collective, we decided that Howard's strategy was not as complicated as it first seemed and that the most basic of market non arb fundamental principles nullified his risk hypothesis. After a while we realised that all that could be said had been said and as howard was now firmly part of the woodwork, he became fair game for lulzes.

If you're addicted to lulz - you have my sympathy,

If you're a member here and you're not, you have mine

but please don't blame others for your condition, or try and justify it by saying you're doing it for the benefit of the forum or gullible newbies etc. Newbies - gullible or otherwise - are repelled by it. And there's the irony. Far from saving them from the clutches of evil vendors, lulz drives them into their welcoming arms.
Tim.

What as absolute load of horse-sh1t tripe!!!

The reason that newbies get scammed by vendors if T2W itself. The business model that couldn't give a sh1t how people are parted from their money as long as the cheques keep coming in. Baghdady anyone? I could throw a few more names around too.
*cough Wasp and T2W staff farce cough cough*

Now I'm not saying that T2W should give a greasy turd about who gets scammed through here because frankly, T2W's ethical obligations are a matter for Sharky to tend to. It's a business not a play group.

Anyhews, before the waffle, what I was trying to say was that blaming ANY members (well real ones) for newbs being pushed towards vendors is the most underhand pass-the-buck tactic I've heard so far. Actually, it's a disgrace.

PS

More lulz then ensues and - this is the best bit - T2W admin and Mods get the blame!

Modage only got the blame for adding to credibility by posting the interview.

 

[Black Swan]

And the people who sanctioned and published that interview have the nerve to accuse others of posting lulz

Blimey, I scan read that and thought you'd written sectioned...

 

[Black Swan]

Hi the hare,
Of course not! It's just my opinion. But I'll wager there are plenty of members who agree with me. And that's the point, everything is personal opinion. I respect yours (for the most part ) and I hope you respect mine. Unfortunately, not all members are able to do this. When others fail to agree with them or, heaven forbid, put forward a contrary view, they resort to offensive lulz. Some members might like it, but I suspect many more won't.

It's worth me repeating - I'm no killjoy. Light hearted lulz - in moderation - is absolutely fine and can lighten a rather serious and arid subject. I even like some of DR's! But that's very different to some of the stuff directed at HC and bbmac. All in my (very) humble opinion of course.
Tim.

What, is Stuart (bbmac) getting flamed now? Who by FFS? I politely disagree with his methods, on the basis that it couldn't possibly work for me and I'd never play NFP day, well other than staying with the swing direction I'm in and watching the seismic activity from a safe distance (at least a 2hr TF), but the guy as a human being is obviously totally sound and adds a lot to this site..

 

[DashRiprock]

If you're a member here and you're not, you have mine

:clap:

tradetowin is only good for lulz. That is the bottom line.

Oh, it's also good for people who would like to think that trading fx on 5m graphs is going to make them rich and famous.

(it's not)

 

[counter_violent]

You gotta laff...you lot always looking for somebody to blame nanny state alive and well i see.

Actually the hilarious part about the wasp saga was....some really intelligent people got creamed on that one and for your info scouse, he went out of his way to alienate himself from T2W in order that he could do the creaming

 

[scose-no-doubt]

:clap:

tradetowin is only good for lulz. That is the bottom line.

Oh, it's also good for people who would like to think that trading fx on 5m graphs is going to make them rich and famous.

(it's not)

I lie. It's also good to speak to a few people who've been in the game for a while. You can learn from thems.

People like you and arabian can't help me to learn anything as you have all sorts of fancy data subscriptions and DOM, ladders etc which I am unable to shell out for. In short s/t order book scalpers are T3h Gh3y Z0MGs.

Wonder what happened to Gammajammer btw.

 

[DashRiprock]

I lie. It's also good to speak to a few people who've been in the game for a while. You can learn from thems.

People like you and arabian can't help me to learn anything as you have all sorts of fancy data subscriptions and DOM, ladders etc which I am unable to shell out for. In short s/t order book scalpers are T3h Gh3y Z0MGs.

Wonder what happened to Gammajammer btw.

mate i think if you went with ninjatrader demo (free) and something like Kinetic data feed (no experience of it) its like

$50 datafeed
$20 for DOM (not necessarily needed)
+exchange fees which could be like
eurex - $17 or cme-eMini - $30

so in theory you could put something together for 40 quid a month for eurex w/ no DOM or 70ish for the lot a month depending on what you got

Im sorry for you if times are tough but from short term -> long term market movements are caused by orderflow -> fundamentals. thats just the way it is.

 

[tar]

I lie. It's also good to speak to a few people who've been in the game for a while. You can learn from thems.

People like you and arabian can't help me to learn anything as you have all sorts of fancy data subscriptions and DOM, ladders etc which I am unable to shell out for. In short s/t order book scalpers are T3h Gh3y Z0MGs.

Wonder what happened to Gammajammer btw.

u can get DOM for free on the demo , try mirus futures ...

 

[the hare]

Actually the hilarious part about the wasp saga was....some really intelligent people got creamed on that one and for your info scouse, he went out of his way to alienate himself from T2W in order that he could do the creaming

I remember watching events unfold on chatzy. It was hillarious watching so many "successful traders" so comprehensively gamed.

The critisism of T2W's handling of the situation.. post creaming... is I think still valid. Whilst I agree entirely with your analysis, from the perception of the majority (rather than the truth) it was also perhaps a bit unfortunate that the sites new community manager overruled his ban for posting child pornography.

scose-no-doubt summed up the reality of the problems T2W created for itself absolutely perfectly. If you really do want to make things better you should be offering him an advisors role (and paying him)

 

[scose-no-doubt]

mate i think if you went with ninjatrader demo (free) and something like Kinetic data feed (no experience of it) its like

$50 datafeed
$20 for DOM (not necessarily needed)
+exchange fees which could be like
eurex - $17 or cme-eMini - $30

so in theory you could put something together for 40 quid a month for eurex w/ no DOM or 70ish for the lot a month depending on what you got

Im sorry for you if times are tough but from short term -> long term market movements are caused by orderflow -> fundamentals. thats just the way it is.

Are you sure you dont mean

orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> orderflow -> fundamentals -> ad infinitum?

 

[kimo'sabby]

Some of the employed types on T2W couldn't operate outside of the company comfort zone. It's the difference between cheap fizz and top notch champagne...u can't blame 'em.

 

[Mr. Charts]

Richard, i thought you had had the latter a long time ago ?

I must be, Garry, just to be reading this thread; I mean just read the title.
How ridiculous is that?
Who gives a toss what Mr Howareyour Cojones loses in March?
And that's being polite.
Richard