stephen2003
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I joined specially this forum to declare from my own experience that this chap named Vince Stanzione is a true scammer. Please do not trust him and don't buy his course because I have lost lots of money based on his 'suggestions'. There is no validity in what he does and basically he gambles in the stockmarket. I guess I better play lottery or go to a casino. However from his posts I know that Vincey boy loves to gamble his money away in Las Vegas too! He has no formal education whatsoever, he is full of bs in his twitter account and he doesn't do even half for what he says he does. From some people who have met him in one of his seminars I can tell that he is antisocial and has massive insecurity issues based on his fear. His hands are sweaty too and he acts like a b*****d. He is a total waste of space. I only have learned my lesson by losing 20 % in my account and I am never ever going to trust ths guy again. Don't believe in these 'lifestyle' photos in his sales letter either, they are all staged and made up.
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Hey there ...Vincent is old school......probably one of the longest serving names I've known about for. many years now.......and I've been involved in the gambling business since the 70's
Amazes me how he still gets money out of people...but he does
I note his small adds still in many magazines and newspapers so it must work for him even now after so many dodgy years
Amazing
N
Hi all, new member here and hope to connect with some great people and maybe some great traders.
I'm 49 years young and began trading on my 21st birthday with 'ig index' back in 1989 !!
I have had quite a successful couple of decades trading and even did very well on the Virtual trading platform known as Kaching! reaching a rank of 16th from some 300,00 members.
Okay Kaching was fun and I miss that now a days as everyone is so serious about trading. Yeah it involves real money but don't get too serious! If your risk is managed then what is there to become upset over?
Anyway I'm going slightly off the thread topic...
What I want to say is that I might actually take a look at the VS 'system' and maybe just maybe if I glean one single idea from it to add, refine my own system then great! I'm always interested in how other traders trade and sure VS might well be a good sales person but lets be honest he does have some 'knowledge'..He certainly understands the idea of trend following and by that I mean there are a hell of a lot of traders who claim to know but fail to do, simply because of a lack of patience.
Everyone says "its just an ema crossover and a trend following system" but these people are completely incapable of doing just that!
It's the way of the world I guess, where gone are the days where a band tour for two years in Germany, putting on some 2000 shows and over 10'000 hours of playing to a world now which involves shows like XFactor producing instant stars, quick bucks and then onto the scrap heap and look for the next idea.
That seems to be the case with traders always looking for the next idea, the holy grail.
Just trade a system, with sound money management and that's it.
So in reality maybe the VS system is probably the simplest and most honest system out there.
Maybe it is akin to selling snow to eskimos but maybe also people need grounding again instead of trading sprints and other options and day trading etc etc because those systems definitely don't make money long term.
Anyway sorry for the long winded slightly ranty post and "Hi all"
I'm 49 years young and began trading on my 21st birthday with 'ig index' back in 1989 !!
I have had quite a successful couple of decades trading and even did very well on the Virtual trading platform known as Kaching! reaching a rank of 16th from some 300,00 members.
Okay Kaching was fun and I miss that now a days as everyone is so serious about trading. Yeah it involves real money but don't get too serious! If your risk is managed then what is there to become upset over?
Anyway I'm going slightly off the thread topic...
What I want to say is that I might actually take a look at the VS 'system' and maybe just maybe if I glean one single idea from it to add, refine my own system then great! I'm always interested in how other traders trade and sure VS might well be a good sales person but lets be honest he does have some 'knowledge'..He certainly understands the idea of trend following and by that I mean there are a hell of a lot of traders who claim to know but fail to do, simply because of a lack of patience.
Everyone says "its just an ema crossover and a trend following system" but these people are completely incapable of doing just that!
It's the way of the world I guess, where gone are the days where a band tour for two years in Germany, putting on some 2000 shows and over 10'000 hours of playing to a world now which involves shows like XFactor producing instant stars, quick bucks and then onto the scrap heap and look for the next idea.
That seems to be the case with traders always looking for the next idea, the holy grail.
Just trade a system, with sound money management and that's it.
So in reality maybe the VS system is probably the simplest and most honest system out there.
Maybe it is akin to selling snow to eskimos but maybe also people need grounding again instead of trading sprints and other options and day trading etc etc because those systems definitely don't make money long term.
Anyway sorry for the long winded slightly ranty post and "Hi all"
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Hi David,
In his post above, tagpole doesn't score high marks for diplomacy, but I do understand his cynicism. It's odd to say the least that someone with your experience - and apparent success - would want to fork out whatever Vince charges these days on the off chance there's something really useful in his material that you've never come across before. In your shoes, I'd contact VS and ask him if his course is suitable for you. If there's proprietary info' in it that's going to be of value to a trader like you, then VS - or one of his sales team - will be promoting it hard in order to attract other seasoned and successful traders. To be fair, I've not studied their marketing material for a long time but, from memory, it's aimed squarely at green out the gills newbies who are yet to learn the difference between short and long or what the bid / ask spread is etc. Presumably, you're quite a way beyond that!
Tim.
Hi Tim, Hi Tadpole,
Thanks for the comments...
In a nutshell I see so many (both good and bad) comments regarding VS and 'his' methods.
I see so many people commenting (inc myself) who in fact have never read his trading course!
So in this food chain from green to tadpole to fish, is old VS a bit of a shark?
Some did the correct thing and read the material and then had an understanding and were then QUALIFIED to dismiss it. That to me seems the sensible approach.
I went ahead and purchased a copy for £70 (inc access to 'the signals') because if like me you have been around for a long time lol, then you have continually heard about VS for the last two decades and have secretly thought to yourself " what exactly is inside that A4 hard copy binder?"
Even that is quite clever in these online internet times. And I'm sure the eager anticipation to find out will probably be let down miserably and the VS method will find itself back on eBay in search of a greater fool.
All those books and trading systems which we all bought and read, how many of those authors made any money from actual trading? who knows! and so The big question which nobody seems to have answered is this: Has VS actually made money with this, albeit simple trading system?
All those stock market participants who wrote books e.g., J livermore, T warren, B Graham etc etc etc although groundbreaking at the time were simple systems!
Anyway I will update and post my conscientious findings here whilst trying to remain on the correct side of the legal system of course and hope to be able to find out just how much VS is actually BS !!
Thanks for the comments...
In a nutshell I see so many (both good and bad) comments regarding VS and 'his' methods.
I see so many people commenting (inc myself) who in fact have never read his trading course!
So in this food chain from green to tadpole to fish, is old VS a bit of a shark?
Some did the correct thing and read the material and then had an understanding and were then QUALIFIED to dismiss it. That to me seems the sensible approach.
I went ahead and purchased a copy for £70 (inc access to 'the signals') because if like me you have been around for a long time lol, then you have continually heard about VS for the last two decades and have secretly thought to yourself " what exactly is inside that A4 hard copy binder?"
Even that is quite clever in these online internet times. And I'm sure the eager anticipation to find out will probably be let down miserably and the VS method will find itself back on eBay in search of a greater fool.
All those books and trading systems which we all bought and read, how many of those authors made any money from actual trading? who knows! and so The big question which nobody seems to have answered is this: Has VS actually made money with this, albeit simple trading system?
All those stock market participants who wrote books e.g., J livermore, T warren, B Graham etc etc etc although groundbreaking at the time were simple systems!
Anyway I will update and post my conscientious findings here whilst trying to remain on the correct side of the legal system of course and hope to be able to find out just how much VS is actually BS !!
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Update...
Took delivery of the Vince Stanzione trading system today and virtually finished reading it...!!
The system is very simple as VS himself concedes.
And all I will say is I'm not likely to land myself in any trouble here and infringe any T&C's by divulging too much information, that would be very difficult to do!
Took delivery of the Vince Stanzione trading system today and virtually finished reading it...!!
The system is very simple as VS himself concedes.
And all I will say is I'm not likely to land myself in any trouble here and infringe any T&C's by divulging too much information, that would be very difficult to do!
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Vinces stuff is simple .......his marketing and spin on it is slick , so people buy it .......I think others have shared it in earlier years so don't worry about it ......and move on
Good luck
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It used to be a simple moving average crossover system 50/200. Still the same ?
Childish rubbish !
dfl3tch3r - you have been had m8. Demand your money back.
How much have you lost from day 1 ?
Unfit for purpose. Since the whole point is to make profits.
Childish rubbish !
dfl3tch3r - you have been had m8. Demand your money back.
How much have you lost from day 1 ?
Unfit for purpose. Since the whole point is to make profits.
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Well I don't think he did sell it to me as I say I bought it via eBay but who knows...
I have read so many trading books over the years and granted there is nothing new or different in the VS material...My own trading system however is quite basic too but with better timed entries over multiple time frames and quite specific money management rules...but stepping back from the perfect timed entry and looking longer term with less emphasis on timing at the heart of it we are all trading the same patterns whether it be a trend up or down or a sideways looking for support and resistance. There are also a couple of pieces of wisdom in the material which is lost on most traders. Things like forget indicators, price tells you all you need to know! Whilst I do consult two indicators it's ultimately the price action that decides the trade which also helps me calculate my risk - seen loads of traders trade the indicators, huge mistake!
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it is a con ...
When you can buy a couple of GOOD trading books like: Jesse Livermore's 'How to Trade Stocks' & Nicolas Darvas 'How I Made $2,000,000 in the Stock Market'
for around 25 quid.
this is what the vs system is all about, PLUS LOTS OF VS BS FLUF.... HOWEVER the above books are FAR superior!
Years ago I bought the vs workbook & video crap when it was offed at half price £147 TOTAL RIP-Off!
LATER VS tried to sell me on his £3K seminar...what a hope when you have already seen his GARBAGE.
A couple of years later I bought the £3K seminar. DVD set from eBay a copy job 20 quid, boy I could NOT believe it the place was packed with suckers, and watching the FACES of these poor suckers ...SOME KNEW... they had been SCAMMED!
As I have said many times YOU would of got more value from a couple of good trading books!
so there ya go viceyboy...I mean dfl3tch3r:-0
Hi all,
Okay there's a couple of things though going on here and I'm just trying to give a fair opinion.
Firstly, does it represent value for money?
If you've been trading for a long time and have a fair amount of experience and knowledge then the truth is you probably already paid a lot more than the course value through the trading mistakes you have made. So to a seasoned investor/trader it's of no value or certainly very little. However if you are a newbie then it gets you started on the right path! having said that, I wouldn't want to pay £204....look on eBay if you really want to find out what's in there!
Secondly, the system itself, is it effective?
Well....Trend analysis is one of the most important aspects of investing!!
Let me just repeat that because traders looking for the holy grail focus on the wrong things...
Trend analysis is one of the most important aspects of investing!!
Summary: If you already learned the hard way already then the VS course is not for you, unless of course you keep blowing up your account and making the same mistakes then maybe you need to get back to basics!
Okay there's a couple of things though going on here and I'm just trying to give a fair opinion.
Firstly, does it represent value for money?
If you've been trading for a long time and have a fair amount of experience and knowledge then the truth is you probably already paid a lot more than the course value through the trading mistakes you have made. So to a seasoned investor/trader it's of no value or certainly very little. However if you are a newbie then it gets you started on the right path! having said that, I wouldn't want to pay £204....look on eBay if you really want to find out what's in there!
Secondly, the system itself, is it effective?
Well....Trend analysis is one of the most important aspects of investing!!
Let me just repeat that because traders looking for the holy grail focus on the wrong things...
Trend analysis is one of the most important aspects of investing!!
Summary: If you already learned the hard way already then the VS course is not for you, unless of course you keep blowing up your account and making the same mistakes then maybe you need to get back to basics!
@^^
Still prattling on about VS course? YOU must be the ONLY 1 on this forum who has anything positive to say about the scammer!
For folks coming here who are NEW to trading and wondering about VS - FORGET IT!
Start here by watching some GREAT videos by Jack Schwager.
And then spend time here at this site 1000% better info here than the VS garbage
Still prattling on about VS course? YOU must be the ONLY 1 on this forum who has anything positive to say about the scammer!
For folks coming here who are NEW to trading and wondering about VS - FORGET IT!
Start here by watching some GREAT videos by Jack Schwager.
And then spend time here at this site 1000% better info here than the VS garbage
Well, well...well, make ya mind up! in your post below you paid just over 100 quid, hmmm....just an oversight on ya part or just plain BS vinceyboy?
Pull the other one its got chains on
Anyway...WELLCOME to the forum Vince
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Well, well...well, make ya mind up! in your post below you paid just over 100 quid, hmmm....just an oversight on ya part or just plain BS vinceyboy?
Pull the other one its got chains on
Anyway...WELLCOME to the forum Vince
Tagpole ... WOW! Have you ever used eBay?
It has mechanisms like 'Offers' and 'Counter Offers' on items!
Anything which sells on eBay displays the original listing price
regardless of what price the two parties actually
agree on.
Okay okay you got me!
This is Vince, all time trading legend.
Hello everyone and let me know if I can be of any help ��
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