Ukraine invasion

[counter_violent]

Young males can't leave the contry but nobody has been forced to fight.
Territorial defense is made by voluteers and their ranks are full.
They accept only experienced fighters, no more militia.
It is Russia that sent conscripts to the battle while Putin was ignoring it.

Tis the fact that the Ukrainian population as a whole are prepared to defend their freedoms and repel any aggressors, that the West is prepared to help them in the first place. Not forgetting the small matter of the threat to the world if countries like Russia and China keep getting away with it !

Russia is a small time nuisance player these days and it's shenanigans in neighbouring countries are a temporary distraction away from China, which is undoubtedly a much bigger threat.

 

[counter_violent]

Every army has criminals, what really matters is bombing cities because that can't be due to single criminals but is something planned, generals ordering to bomb towns because they are not able to defeat the enemy soldiers.
Their strategy is to terrorize civilians and after this there will not be any pro russian sentiment in Ukraine.

At the beginnig everyone was thinking that Russia was holding back but now evey strategist agree that there is just nothing beyond this, russian army is unable to take Ukraine.
Ukraine has not air superiority but neither Russia has full control of the sky.
Ukraine is winning and pushing back but it will be a very slow victory, they don't have cannon fodder and equipment to waste.

Post 1002 covered this.

Again, no comment from Tim and Att.

Think i'll go watch the FA Cup final. More entertaining than arguing on a Saturday afternoon.

 

[timsk]

Tim and At can't even get their heads around the basics of this situation and they point blank refuse to engage with eg, post 1005, 1013, the vid posted where Russian troops shot dead the security guard and his manager.

c_v,
That's very disingenuous of you as you know full well that I've never refused "point blank" to engage with you or those on your side of the argument. On the contrary, I refer you to the opening point in my last post in which I said: ". . . If there's anything I've not addressed, it's genuine oversight on my part for which I apologise. Feel free to make any point or ask any question you want and I'll happily answer it . . ." What more, exactly, can I do or say?

With regard to the two posts you mention - you've not made a specific point or asked a question. I'm not clairvoyant, so forgive me if I don't waste my time double guessing what your points/questions might be or what you're wanting me to say! I, on the other hand, have asked specific questions - i.e. sentences that end which one of these things: ? - so it's crystal clear what I'm wanting you to address.
Tim.

 

[counter_violent]

You are right and I've noticed the same thing Tim. Same goes for I-Cats Paw-I.

We answer their questions and assertions.

They seldom respond to anything we put up but quote some other alternative reality to their false beliefs. By repeating the rubbish they think it'll stick.

I've lost count how many times they've repeated yeah but no but Russia invaded. Whilst repeating this is not about NATO.

THIS IS PURELY ABOUT NATO EXPANSION AND US MEDDLING IN UKRAINE. Russian's said this is their red line.

Blah blah blah Nope that's just a ploy for Russians' expansion. Russia is lying. West is speaking the truth.

FFS you can't discuss anything with nutters like this. NO WONDER RUSSIA HAS SENT IN THE INTERVENTION FORCE. Talking and negotiations not going anywhere.

EU countries already cracking up with differences of opinion.

See how dumb this is.

An intervention force in someone else's country is an invasion. It's not some local difficulty you are talking about here. This is a full scale assault on a independent nation, on multiple fronts, including the civilian population.

Time for FA Cup final. Some light relief from correcting misinformation/ propaganda/ appeasement.

 

[Atilla]

See how dumb this is.

An intervention force in someone else's country is an invasion. It's not some local difficulty you are talking about here. This is a full scale assault on a independent nation, on multiple fronts, including the civilian population.

Time for FA Cup final. Some light relief from correcting misinformation/ propaganda/ appeasement.

The population of Ukraine? 40m+

Russian troops in Ukraine? 100-150K

Russia says it is an intervention, indicating they plan to rectify a situation and leave.

For the BBC, reporting tripe - it is an invasion.

FULL SCALE ASSAULT on MULTIPLE FRONTS including CIVILIANS. You're on another planet.

 

[counter_violent]

My best guess is that we are now entering the next phase of the Ukrainian fight back where Russian troops are pushed back out of occupied territories. There have been no significant advances by the Russians for weeks. Ukraine still enjoying targeted supply line successes. Already we see the Russians moving out (running away) from Kharkiv. Putin losing his grip both in Ukraine and at home. Internal pressure is starting to mount on Putin.

Ex Russia PM interview is interesting.

 

[Oscar Reed]

See how dumb this is.

An intervention force in someone else's country is an invasion. It's not some local difficulty you are talking about here. This is a full scale assault on a independent nation, on multiple fronts, including the civilian population.

Time for FA Cup final. Some light relief from correcting misinformation/ propaganda/ appeasement.

Terrible game.

 

[counter_violent]

Ukraine wins Eurovision.

Was it Ukraines fault that the Soviet Union collapsed. Putin is a total knob. Harking back to a bygone era. HELLO....get with the program, it's 2022 not 1980.

Zelensky is a genius. not only has he played Putin, but all of the West is fawning over his leadership.
Nobel peace prize coming his way, guaranteed. And, I bet they win Eurovision !
Genius. What a guy !

That was hard to figure out.

 

[CavaliereVerde]

 

[CavaliereVerde]

And this is really important, I can't understand why so many few views for this video.

 

[counter_violent]

Oh dear, Putin's plans in tatters.

Ukraine war: Russia's invasion not going to plan, Nato says

In a damning assessment of Russian efforts, Nato's secretary general says Ukraine could win the war.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[counter_violent]

After years of "getting away with it", Putin is finally being put in his place.

 

[CavaliereVerde]

@counter_violent
Do you know where is Kasyanov today?
I don't think he is in Russia...

Mikhail Kasyanov - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[CavaliereVerde]

For those that forgot what was the initial goal, here we have Putin asking ukranian army to betray their gov.
25 February

 

[counter_violent]

 

[IlIlIlIlI]

Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine

that's all not new...

Georgia, Moldova and Ukraine see joint path to EU

Rebuking Russia, three presidents sign statement on EU integration.

www.politico.eu

Young males can't leave the contry but nobody has been forced to fight.
Territorial defense is made by voluteers and their ranks are full.
They accept only experienced fighters, no more militia.

Conscription in Ukraine: IT worker forced to fight war with no military experience

When the war began Ivan, 30, an IT professional, hoped that he would be able to use his computing skills to help the Ukrainian government fight Russian cybera

www.thetimes.co.uk

US ran gruesome bioweapon research in over 25 countries. Wuhan, tip of an iceberg

The US Army regularly produces deadly viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN Convention on the prohibition of Biological Weapons

silview.media

The Secret US Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine and Georgia

God only knows that kind of pathogens they’re working on! Photo by CDC on Pexels.com Back in 2018 I started coming across stories with documented evidence of secret bioweapons labs in the nat…

dontspeaknews.com

The secret US biolabs in Ukraine - Seemorerocks

In an interview on Ukraine, Rusell “Texas” Bentley revealed something that was deep in my memory – that the United States have secret bioweapons laboratories in Ukraine and in Georgia. Ukrainians ask themselves what biolabs supervised by the US Department of Defense might be doing in Ukraine...

seemorerocks.is

 

[counter_violent]

If these Ukrainian soldiers were considered Nazi's, there is zero chance they would have been evacuated from Mauriopol and exchanged for Russian prisoner troops.

Think about that.

Putins phony justification to de-nazify Ukraine falls apart in this single act.

Mariupol: Hundreds of besieged Ukrainian soldiers evacuated

Ukraine says 264 fighters - some badly wounded - have been taken from the Azovstal steelworks.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[IlIlIlIlI]

With Scholtz in power, Gemany loses last signs of its independence ​

Ukraine began to violate the Minsk Accords "literally since the moment of signing"

the neoliberalism of the collective West is evolving right before our eyes into the ideology of neoliberal fascism

 

[counter_violent]

Retired colonel speaks out on Russian TV

Mikhail Khodarenok gives a rare insight saying the military operation in Ukraine can only get worse.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[IlIlIlIlI]

Retired colonel speaks out on Russian TV

Mikhail Khodarenok gives a rare insight saying the military operation in Ukraine can only get worse.

www.bbc.co.uk

I didn’t know English has so many ways to express a single message: the Azovnazis have unconditionally surrendered