New Trades Thread

[hhiusa]

you have not listed your questions..no.1..etc..etc

you must answer what you are asked..otherwise you will get nowhere

No one cares about the order. Does that you are refusing to give an answer?

no..that stuff is all crap..same as that german fella mentioned recently..really..who gives a shi.te if some german woke up some morning and found his thought process to be clearer..i can not understand how people latch on to someone else..all it means is that the person is insecure..and not able to deal effectively with his/her own issues

Did you miss this? Stating something without evidence is not logical.
I do not know how you are missing the point. I am not trying to achieve anything except get a straight forward answer about my questions without you swearing, using anecdotes, talking about Germany, all CAPS, vendors or anything that I have not asked.

it becomes "an issue§ when it interferes with the normal chart reading process..which it does when the algos kick in..so..if you are not aware of the difference..then you will be like the monkey scratching his head

That does not sound like a problem to me. I would not call it an interference. It is just how algos operate. It is also just how big firms operate. You will always be a minnow swimming with the sharks. I still do not see a problem with algos. If someone else's trading style interferes with yours, it is not their fault. The market is Darwinian.

 

[Lúidín]

YOU are missing the point..you must list your questions so that they are clear..otherwise how can one answer them..so..again..

No.1

No.2

No.3

No.4

No.5

 

[Lúidín]

how do you best determine if the breakout will take place..and keep going a bit..do you use squiggly lines

like everything else..the question is easy when you know the answer!

 

[hhiusa]

YOU are missing the point..you must list your questions so that they are clear..otherwise how can one answer them..so..again..

No.1

No.2

No.3

No.4

No.5

This is not preschool. I know that you are intelligent enough to read and answer question without them being all neat and tidy for you. Why are you being so evasive? Numbering the questions is not the hill to die on. You have spent two pages avoiding my questions.

Stating something without evidence is not logical.
I do not know how you are missing the point. I am not trying to achieve anything except get a straight forward answer about my questions without you swearing, using anecdotes, talking about Germany, all CAPS, vendors or anything that I have not asked.

it becomes "an issue§ when it interferes with the normal chart reading process..which it does when the algos kick in..so..if you are not aware of the difference..then you will be like the monkey scratching his head

I have a question here. Apparently, it needs to be spelled out for you. Why is that an issue? That does not sound like a problem to me. I would not call it an interference. It is just how algos operate. It is also just how big firms operate. You will always be a minnow swimming with the sharks. I still do not see a problem with algos. If someone else's trading style interferes with yours, it is not their fault. The market is Darwinian.

 

[Lúidín]

please state No.1 as per request..then we can move on

 

[hhiusa]

please state No.1 as per request..then we can move on

With this post I already got my answers . You cannot get blood from a stone. You will not give me any answers because you have none.

Regards.

 

[Lúidín]

I have plenty of answers..but only for those who do exactly what they are asked to do!

 

[hhiusa]

I have plenty of answers..but only for those who do exactly what they are asked to do!

Says you! you seem to lack manners. Would you actually do that in public? I think you're addicted to that game Simon says. You wouldn't tell someone you didn't say number one. At least I hope you wouldn't. You are not a dictator and people need not do what you tell them. You seem to lack the most rudimentary of social skills.

As I said, you cannot get blood from a stone. I do not care about how many answers you have for whatever questions I only care about one answer. Your mind games are proof positive enough.

 

[Lúidín]

what is..is..it really does not matter..if anyone wants to learn some things that I know then they must do as I ask..if not..they will not learn anything from me

why can I say this..easy..because I know something that very few know

 

[hhiusa]

what is..is..it really does not matter..if anyone wants to learn some things that I know then they must do as I ask..if not..they will not learn anything from me

why can I say this..easy..because I know something that very few know

I will admit that you know certain things. You mastered arrogance. You sound like a vendor. If you want to know what I know just do exactly what I say and send $9.95 plus shipping and handling.

"Do what I tell you and I will give an answer!" Whatever you say Mussolini!

 

[itspossible]

 

[fullset]

what is..is..it really does not matter..if anyone wants to learn some things that I know then they must do as I ask..if not..they will not learn anything from me

why can I say this..easy..because I know something that very few know

1. What method do you use for investing?
2. What convinces you that a stock, ETF, or any investment product is underpriced i.e you expect the price to move up and you buy?
3. What convinces you that a stock, ETF, or any investment product is overpriced i.e you expect the price to move down and you sell?

Thanks,

Fullset

 

[Lúidín]

1. What method do you use for investing?
2. What convinces you that a stock, ETF, or any investment product is underpriced i.e you expect the price to move up and you buy?
3. What convinces you that a stock, ETF, or any investment product is overpriced i.e you expect the price to move down and you sell?

Thanks,

Fullset

very well asked ft..I like the way you numbered the questions

1.

I don't invest..i daytrade..well..i used to daytrade..currently in the process of returning..hence I am here to condition my mind as SOCRATES showed me

2.+ 3.

when daytrading you are not concerned with fundamental analysis..the only thing that you are concerned with is reading short term movements using multiple timeframe chart analysis..with the purpose to determine the most probable outcome

there are several ways to achieve this..some better than others..but the best way is the simplest way..the more things you look at the slower you will be to react

price will do 3 things..and keep doing it..over and over

a. it will move
b. it will pause
c. it will move

when it moves you get on board..when it pauses you get off..when it moves again you get on board again..repeat...

what determines if you get on board the right train..will be a function of your experience and your mindset..with your mindset being the most important part

have I answered your questions adequately?

 

[Lúidín]

:cheesy:

“The contribution made by American capitalism to German war preparations can only be described as phenomenal. It was certainly crucial to German military capabilities.... Not only was an influential sector of American business aware of the nature of Nazism, but for its own purposes aided Nazism wherever possible (and profitable)―with full knowledge that the probable outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States.”

Penetrating a cloak of falsehood, deception, and duplicity, Professor Sutton reveals one of the most remarkable and under-reported facts of World War II―that key Wall Street banks and American businesses supported Hitler’s rise to power by financing and trading with Nazi Germany. Carefully tracing this closely guarded secret through original documents and eyewitness accounts, Sutton comes to the unsavory conclusion that the catastrophe of World War II was extremely profitable for a select group of financial insiders. He presents a thoroughly documented account of the role played by J.P. Morgan, T.W. Lamont, the Rockefeller interests, General Electric, Standard Oil, and the National City, Chase, and Manhattan banks, Kuhn, Loeb and Company, General Motors, Ford Motor Company, and scores of others in helping to prepare the bloodiest, most destructive war in history.

and YOU think that the textbook rubbish about trading is going to help YOU make money..WTF..

 

[Lúidín]

Breaking 170 years of secrecy, this intriguing exposé takes a behind-the-scenes look at Yale's mysterious society, the Order of the Skull and Bones, and its prominent members, numbering among them Tafts, Rockefellers, Pillsburys, and Bushes. Explored is how Skull and Bones initiates have become senators, judges, cabinet secretaries, spies, titans of finance and industry, and even U.S. presidents, including George W. Bush. This book reveals that far from being a campus fraternity, the society is more concerned with the success of its members in the postcollegiate world. Included are a verified membership list, rare reprints of original Order materials revealing the interlocking power centers dominated by Bonesmen, and a peek inside the Tomb, their 140-year-old private clubhouse.

 

[Lúidín]

“Sutton comes to conclusions that are uncomfortable for many businessmen and economists. For this reason, his work tends to be either dismissed out of hand as ‘extreme’ or, more often, simply ignored.” ―Richard Pipes, Baird Professor Emeritus of History, Harvard University (from Survival Is Not Enough: Soviet Realities and America's Future)

Why did the 1917 American Red Cross Mission to Russia include more financiers than medical doctors? Rather than caring for the victims of war and revolution, its members seemed more intent on negotiating contracts with the Kerensky government and, subsequently, the Bolshevik regime.

In a courageous investigation, Antony Sutton establishes tangible historical links between Russian communists and US capitalists. Drawing on US state department files, personal papers of key Wall Street figures, biographies, and conventional histories, Sutton reveals:

• The role of Morgan banking executives in funneling illegal Bolshevik gold into the US.
• The co-option of the American Red Cross by powerful Wall Street forces.
• The intervention by Wall Street sources to free the Marxist revolutionary Leon Trotsky, whose aim was to topple the Russian government.
• The deals made by major corporations to capture the huge Russian market a decade and a half before the US recognized the Soviet regime.
• The secret sponsoring of Communism by leading businessmen, who publicly championed free enterprise.

Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution traces the foundations of Western funding of the Soviet Union. Dispassionately, and with overwhelming documentation, the author details a crucial phase in the establishment of Communist Russia.

 

[Lúidín]

:cheesy::cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:

Another fine and extremely well researched work by Antony C. Sutton. An expose' of the people and forces behind the takeover of the US economy by the Federal Reserve system, on behalf of the oligarchs. A must for anyone interested in the inner workings of US politics and economics, and the concealed reasons for current events. This is the first book that details hour by hour the events that led up to passage of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 - and the many decades of work and secret planning that private bankers had invested to obtain their money monopoly.

YOU now know HOW the markets are controlled..wake the fu.k up



noun, plural oligarchies.


1.a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.

 

[Lúidín]

ah jasus..what kinda country is it at all :cheesy:

Franklin D. Roosevelt is frequently described as one of the greatest presidents in American history, remembered for his leadership during the Great Depression and Second World War. Antony Sutton challenges this received wisdom, presenting a controversial but convincing analysis. Based on an extensive study of original documents, he concludes that: * FDR was an elitist who influenced public policy in order to benefit special interests, including his own. * FDR and his Wall Street colleagues were 'corporate socialists', who believed in making society work for their own benefit. * FDR believed in business but not free market economics. Sutton describes the genesis of 'corporate socialism' - acquiring monopolies by means of political influence - which he characterises as 'making society work for the few'. He traces the historical links of the Delano and Roosevelt families to Wall Street, as well as FDR's own political networks developed during his early career as a financial speculator and bond dealer. The New Deal almost destroyed free enterprise in America, but didn't adversely affect FDR's circle of old friends ensconced in select financial institutions and federal regulatory agencies. Together with their corporate allies, this elite group profited from the decrees and programmes generated by their old pal in the White House, whilst thousands of small businesses suffered and millions were unemployed. Wall Street and FDR is much more than a fascinating historical and political study. Many contemporary parallels can be drawn to Sutton's powerful presentation given the recent banking crises and worldwide governments' bolstering of private institutions via the public purse. This classic study - first published in 1975 as the conclusion of a key trilogy - is reproduced here in its original form. (The other volumes in the series are Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler and Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution.)

 

[hhiusa]

:cheesy:

“The contribution made by American capitalism to German war preparations can only be described as phenomenal. It was certainly crucial to German military capabilities.... Not only was an influential sector of American business aware of the nature of Nazism, but for its own purposes aided Nazism wherever possible (and profitable)―with full knowledge that the probable outcome would be war involving Europe and the United States.”

Penetrating a cloak of falsehood, deception, and duplicity, Professor Sutton reveals one of the most remarkable and under-reported facts of World War II―that key Wall Street banks and American businesses supported Hitler’s rise to power by financing and trading with Nazi Germany. Carefully tracing this closely guarded secret through original documents and eyewitness accounts, Sutton comes to the unsavory conclusion that the catastrophe of World War II was extremely profitable for a select group of financial insiders. He presents a thoroughly documented account of the role played by J.P. Morgan, T.W. Lamont, the Rockefeller interests, General Electric, Standard Oil, and the National City, Chase, and Manhattan banks, Kuhn, Loeb and Company, General Motors, Ford Motor Company, and scores of others in helping to prepare the bloodiest, most destructive war in history.

and YOU think that the textbook rubbish about trading is going to help YOU make money..WTF..

I was pointing out that this is very common in illogical arguments, so much so that a psychological phenomenon exists around it. Once such a comparison is made, whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law. This came after Strauss's term reductio ad Hitlerum, which derives its meaning from reductio ad absurdum.

If Hitler liked neoclassical art, that means that classicism in every form is Nazi; if Hitler wanted to strengthen the German family, that makes the traditional family (and its defenders) Nazi; if Hitler spoke of the "nation" or the "folk," then any invocation of nationality, ethnicity, or even folkishness is Nazi ..."

You are always talking about things that are a waste of time. This certainly takes the cake.

It is still fallacious. Why bother making any arguments if you are not going to use and follow logic. The suggested rationale is one of guilt by association. This is where reductio ad absurdum comes in.

it is a tactic often used to derail arguments, because such comparisons tend to distract and anger the opponent, as Hitler and Nazism are seen as unpopular in the modern Western world.

 

[Lúidín]

it is very relevant..as the findings are based on thorough research of historical documents..not hearsay..and the evidence proves that their is an elite group who control what happens in the usa..and thus affects the rest of the world..including us thick paddys

references to goblins and laws are irrelevant..we are talking about facts here..and common sense..not some academic instigated horse**** that does nothing but shows ones ignorance to the reality of world affairs

some of us do not like seeing the minority rule..and even though we can not do anything about it..we can highlight the facts as they are discovered and published

it is up to each person to make up their own mind..and as far as I am concerned..they are all nothing more then a bunch of fat ars.e lazy bastar.d.s..who know they can do as they please..as the are no better than bunch of paedophiles who hide behind secret doors..while carrying out their dirty habits with no regard for human life or dignity

the good old usa is not really that good..but it is for trading..once you know the fat ars.e lazy *******s are really in control..and if you are thick enough to be hood winked into believing all the shi.te they have put out..then you will just join the statistics

the difference between me and you is..i know it is true..i have no doubts what so ever..while you do not want it to be true..but that is your problem..not mine

the funny part is..the guy who worked out how the markets can be easily interpreted..from the silly charts...is in the good old usa..but he was clever enough not to tell anyone else there..and..the small few that he did tell..are not in the usa at all..so it will never be covered up or rendered useless