End of the neo-cons??

[Atilla]

hmm, tell you what though, he has got that film star look to his face and he is always clean shaven. There is a subtle "protection sureity" radiating from his aura's , kind of like an american wild west gunslinger, with a controlable psychosis. These are no band thing, we could argue ,to have in a pistols at dawn situation. Kind of like Yul Brynner when he played that robot in that great film West World.

I'll say this to Mr Bush though, he should do as he think he must. But of course so should everyone else too.

As for supporting troops in Iraq etc, why not bang the message to all these wonderful world leaders, that we think it a good idea to support all life.

huh. how easy's that ?

Has anyone sent an email to the whitehouse yet airing ones complaints?

What's the point?

I'm not American and I don't have a vote.

The vote I do have didn't count as poodle Blair still got in.

The White House gets to read everyones email and bloggs anyway. Has anyone ever read Microsoft's licence agreement. You can only use 40bit encryption if you are in the USA UK and some other US friendly countries. Othwersie you weren't supposed to.

However in the US as in the UK GCHQ they can read most encrypted messages anyway up to 512bits with no problem. If you encrypt with any other technology then they really take an interest in you.

If you want privacy use a donkey to communicate like Al Qaida do up in the mountains. :cheesy:

I suppose you'd call it d-mail...

 

[JTrader]

What's the point?

I'm not American and I don't have a vote.

The vote I do have didn't count as poodle Blair still got in.

The White House gets to read everyones email and bloggs anyway. Has anyone ever read Microsoft's licence agreement. You can only use 40bit encryption if you are in the USA UK and some other US friendly countries. Othwersie you weren't supposed to.

However in the US as in the UK GCHQ they can read most encrypted messages anyway up to 512bits with no problem. If you encrypt with any other technology then they really take an interest in you.

If you want privacy use a donkey to communicate like Al Qaida do up in the mountains. :cheesy:

I suppose you'd call it d-mail...

http://infowars.net/articles/april2007/170407internet.htm

Seems like they want to replace the Internet as we know it.

 

[Atilla]

http://infowars.net/articles/april2007/170407internet.htm

Seems like they want to replace the Internet as we know it.

There is no United Nations ...

There is an internationaly community that can occasionaly be only led by the only real power left in the world and that's the United States when it suits their - US interest and when they can get other people to go along - like the UK.

If you took out 10 floors out of the 38, it would make no difference.

US makes the UN work when it wants to work. That is exactly the way it should be because the only question AND THE ONLY QUESTION to the US is what's in US national interest.

If you don't like that uncle Sam is sorry - but that's the fact and you know you should know that. You have to know that otherwise you are wasting time.


I WOULD LIKE TO START A PETITION TO MOVE THE UN OUT OF NY

All those in favour say aye.
All those against say naye.

 

[fibonelli]

http://infowars.net/articles/april2007/170407internet.htm

Seems like they want to replace the Internet as we know it.

And here's the reason why:
"Researchers funded by the federal government want to shut down the internet and start over, citing the fact that at the moment there are loopholes in the system whereby users cannot be tracked and traced all the time".

 

[JTrader]

There is no United Nations ...

There is an internationaly community that can occasionaly be only led by the only real power left in the world and that's the United States when it suits their - US interest and when they can get other people to go along - like the UK.

If you took out 10 floors out of the 38, it would make no difference.

US makes the UN work when it wants to work. That is exactly the way it should be because the only question AND THE ONLY QUESTION to the US is what's in US national interest.

If you don't like that uncle Sam is sorry - but that's the fact and you know you should know that. You have to know that otherwise you are wasting time.


I WOULD LIKE TO START A PETITION TO MOVE THE UN OUT OF NY

All those in favour say aye.
All those against say naye.

Perhaps part of the reason for ignoring UN resolutions etc. is so that they can look back & say the UN has failed, its not enough we need a NWO/global government to replace it with?

Gordon Brown has already said they need a NWO for future security & to combat climate change.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6277747.stm

 

[Atilla]

Perhaps part of the reason for ignoring UN resolutions etc. is so that they can look back & say the UN has failed, its not enough we need a NWO/global government to replace it with?

Gordon Brown has already said they need a NWO for future security & to combat climate change.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6277747.stm

Some strategists said that the rise of the US and fall of the UK power base was one and the same.

The UK got the Ottoman empire out of the ME only to hand control of the rich oil fields over to the Americans.

The assertion was that as the US World Order and power base disintigrates the UK will be there to step in.

When I read this analysis I thought too far fetched. This was some time ago. Now it doesn't seem too far fetched at all. With big fish like Russia, India and China around I don't think life will be like to good old days.

Russia scored a breakthrough Saturday in an intensifying rivalry between world powers for Central Asia's vast energy resources by securing a landmark pipeline deal.

 

[grantx]

During the Crimean war Lord Lucan, commander of the Light (or Heavy?) Brigade, was nicknamed ‘Lord Look-on’ for his reluctance to engage. Just like the UN. Given their record in the Balkans, and other conflicts, the UN is similarly tainted. I’m with the US, here.

37 floors less wouldn’t be noticed.

Atilla, I’ll sign your petition but only on condition it isn’t relocated anywhere. Oh, Manchester are already bidding for it, are they? Look nice next to the casino.

Grant.

 

[Atilla]

During the Crimean war Lord Lucan, commander of the Light (or Heavy?) Brigade, was nicknamed ‘Lord Look-on’ for his reluctance to engage. Just like the UN. Given their record in the Balkans, and other conflicts, the UN is similarly tainted. I’m with the US, here.

37 floors less wouldn’t be noticed.

Atilla, I’ll sign your petition but only on condition it isn’t relocated anywhere. Oh, Manchester are already bidding for it, are they? Look nice next to the casino.

Grant.

Hi Grant,

I'm ever so glad you have picked up on it to reflect on the UN. I think the World needs a UN. Very badly. Listen to this and anybody else reading this please watch this 30 second you tube clip.

John Bolton's UN perspective

This is the guy nobody wanted - to represent the US in the UN.

Bush and the NeoCons endorsed whole heartedly and got their way.

The US recently denied Iranian women visas to attend the UN. Something to do with international womens day or other. That is abuse of the system. The UN is supposed to be international territory.

All this is like some James Bond movie where some twisted evil doers are trying to take over the World.

There are lot's of other clips of Mr Bolton too. Nice one with Tony Benn and with Paxman asking some questions if anybody wants to watch. Can't believe it when Bolton blames the UK for false intelligence on Iraq and even touching on the 45 min allegation.

Please guys take a view and either say aye or naye.

Finally, I hope you realise those words were not mine and line referring to taking out 10 floors of the UN are John Bolton's.

 

[Atilla]

All the president's men...

Hi Grant,

I'm ever so glad you have picked up on it to reflect on the UN. I think the World needs a UN. Very badly. Listen to this and anybody else reading this please watch this 30 second you tube clip.

John Bolton's UN perspective

This is the guy nobody wanted - to represent the US in the UN.

Bush and the NeoCons endorsed whole heartedly and got their way.

The US recently denied Iranian women visas to attend the UN. Something to do with international womens day or other. That is abuse of the system. The UN is supposed to be international territory.

All this is like some James Bond movie where some twisted evil doers are trying to take over the World.

There are lot's of other clips of Mr Bolton too. Nice one with Tony Benn and with Paxman asking some questions if anybody wants to watch. Can't believe it when Bolton blames the UK for false intelligence on Iraq and even touching on the 45 min allegation.

Please guys take a view and either say aye or naye.

Finally, I hope you realise those words were not mine and line referring to taking out 10 floors of the UN are John Bolton's.

Wolfowitz in final plea for job

Plea = Appeal, beg, beseech, implore


I think of president's men Bolton and Wolfowitz as Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee. Is it any wonder with such great minds that president Bush is where he is at.

On the big question though I'm not sure is it because the president chooses to sorround him self with these guys cause he likes their point of view or the president is guided by these advisors.

Basically, is Bush leading or being led? Either way the result is not a good one for Bush or the American people imo.