Brexit and the Consequences

Atilla said:
Parliament turned into a Circus by Brexiteers. Shocking.

Brexiteers are the clowns who are supposed to unite the country and lead us to some promised pie in the sky greatness??? Realy?

No sh!t Sherlock comes to mind.

Then we have JRMoggy boy talking out of his rear still dribbling nonsense.

Tory party destroying it self. The traditional old guard are now the traitors and the very Brexiteers who have betrayed their party principals are in charge in pursuit of policies which are not even their own. They belong to UKIP. Like cancer eurosceptics have taken over the host and now tearing it apart.

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I did say you can't trust the Tories, vote Brexit Party (y)
 
Not much changes.

The country needs a second clear referendum or new elections.
 
Signalcalc said:
I did say you can't trust the Tories, vote Brexit Party (y)
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Brexit party is also a minority party.

Keep telling you the numbers do NOT add up.

Brexiteers in no way have a majority. Never have done.

Referendum was simply an advisory tool, a political balls up by Cameron to maintain power for the tories so they didn't lose elections by losing votes to UKIP letting Labour in.

No freaking majority for Brexit. Eurosceptics have lied and capitalised on a momentary Arab Spring uprising after UK and US ventures destroying the middle east creating millions of refugees. UK and US in search of power plays and cheap resources and favoured contracts for their military. Deposing natural leaders and implementing puppet regimes.


This whole fiasco is so fecked up people can not see the bigger picture.


UK continues to lose investment, sterling sinks, and business opportunities are lost and UK moves to irrelevance with the US.



We are still not out of the woods either. One hopes the common average person in UK gets to see what these Brexiteers in their rant about democracy and handing power back to Parliament really mean about handing power back to Parliament?


LibDems growing stronger.

Labour, Tories yesteryears parties.

Brexit Party flash in pan, one pony party.


You know what's coming your way right? :love:
 
Atilla said:
Brexit party is also a minority party.

Keep telling you the numbers do NOT add up.

Brexiteers in no way have a majority. Never have done.

Referendum was simply an advisory tool, a political balls up by Cameron to maintain power for the tories so they didn't lose elections by losing votes to UKIP letting Labour in.

No freaking majority for Brexit. Eurosceptics have lied and capitalised on a momentary Arab Spring uprising after UK and US ventures destroying the middle east creating millions of refugees. UK and US in search of power plays and cheap resources and favoured contracts for their military. Deposing natural leaders and implementing puppet regimes.


This whole fiasco is so fecked up people can not see the bigger picture.


UK continues to lose investment, sterling sinks, and business opportunities are lost and UK moves to irrelevance with the US.



We are still not out of the woods either. One hopes the common average person in UK gets to see what these Brexiteers in their rant about democracy and handing power back to Parliament really mean about handing power back to Parliament?


LibDems growing stronger.

Labour, Tories yesteryears parties.

Brexit Party flash in pan, one pony party.


You know what's coming your way right? :love:
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Traitorous Tories kicked out of the party, general election installs Brexit coalition with a Brexiteer majority, new government reverses no-deal legislation (assuming the traitorous MP's vote for that tomorrow), Labour nowhere along with Libdems, a delay, but will still result in Brexit deal or no-deal.
 
Signalcalc said:
Traitorous Tories kicked out of the party, general election installs Brexit coalition with a Brexiteer majority, new government reverses no-deal legislation (assuming the traitorous MP's vote for that tomorrow), Labour nowhere along with Libdems, a delay, but will still result in Brexit deal or no-deal.
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:unsure: :whistle: :cool:
 
Signalcalc said:
Just another untrustworthy, traitorous, lying, remoaner, still at least we know where they are, in Labour, Lib Dems and the SNP, at least the Tories will be almost remoaner free at the end of the process.

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You really are not reading this Brexit fiasco very well at all are you SC.

Look at the facts.
Yes the referendum was acted upon and article 50 invoked.
Yes many lies were told and false assertions made by all sides.
No Brexit is not as simple as we were led to believe.

Yes Theresa May did go back to the people to get a bigger majority of her no deal is better than a bad deal and Tories only sensible party available to lead the nation. Duly lost her majority. This is important as elections and new government over turns any previous advisory referendums.

Since then many debates and motions voted upon and no consensus exists in Parliament for a hard no deal Brexit.

So for Brexiteers to keep banging this same old dribble as if they are the only ones who know what democracy is or that democracy is a one time event is pitifully pathetic.


Brexiteers and Eurosceptics really showing their true colours as UK descends into more chaos.


I beg to differ about Tories purging out the remainers. It is the eurosceptics who need to naff off to the Brexit party and leave the Conservatives. The soul of the Tory party is not dead just yet.


Has anyone heard from our know-it-all Tory CV? Not like him to lose his tongue. :unsure: (y)
 
Signalcalc said:
..............Traitorous Tories kicked out of the party..........
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And the kickers are the traitorous Tories of the past who continually rebelled against various Tory governments of the day (and the will of the people who supported the government EU policy). Now the boot is on the other foot and the kickers can’t take it so resort to bullying totalitarianism. Do you really want to run by such a Cummingsiam shower.
 
I see

1) No deal taken off the table (jees i hope so)
2) General Election (one way or another)
3) Referendum 2 (the people speak again this time on the nature of the Deal required or remain)
4) Coalition formed (lets face it the country is so devided now theres no way 1 party will ever rule again)

so bring it on
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barjon said:
And the kickers are the traitorous Tories of the past who continually rebelled against various Tory governments of the day (and the will of the people who supported the government EU policy). Now the boot is on the other foot and the kickers can’t take it so resort to bullying totalitarianism. Do you really want to run by such a Cummingsiam shower.
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Conservatives are (sadly) dead in water and the sharks circling ...........lies , incest , betrayal .......... jees we are looking forward to the Box set....

for some crazy reason ive been watching the old thick of it box set last 3 weeks ........its great at the moment as im not sure which is on my screen sometimes .....the real news or the tv show.......hahahahahahaha
 
NVP said:
Conservatives are (sadly) dead in water and the sharks circling ...........lies , incest , betrayal .......... jees we are looking forward to the Box set....

for some crazy reason ive been watching the old thick of it box set last 3 weeks ........its great at the moment as im not sure which is on my screen sometimes .....the real news or the tv show.......hahahahahahaha
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Have you watched Spartacus the series, now that would be a much better way to settle arguments, Roman style.
 
Atilla said:
You really are not reading this Brexit fiasco very well at all are you SC.

Look at the facts.
Yes the referendum was acted upon and article 50 invoked.
Yes many lies were told and false assertions made by all sides.
No Brexit is not as simple as we were led to believe.

Yes Theresa May did go back to the people to get a bigger majority of her no deal is better than a bad deal and Tories only sensible party available to lead the nation. Duly lost her majority. This is important as elections and new government over turns any previous advisory referendums.

Since then many debates and motions voted upon and no consensus exists in Parliament for a hard no deal Brexit.

So for Brexiteers to keep banging this same old dribble as if they are the only ones who know what democracy is or that democracy is a one time event is pitifully pathetic.


Brexiteers and Eurosceptics really showing their true colours as UK descends into more chaos.


I beg to differ about Tories purging out the remainers. It is the eurosceptics who need to naff off to the Brexit party and leave the Conservatives. The soul of the Tory party is not dead just yet.


Has anyone heard from our know-it-all Tory CV? Not like him to lose his tongue. :unsure: (y)
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I reckon CV must be incognito, enjoying himself somewhere where there isn't an internet connection.
 
Atilla said:
You really are not reading this Brexit fiasco very well at all are you SC.

Look at the facts.
Yes the referendum was acted upon and article 50 invoked.
Yes many lies were told and false assertions made by all sides.
No Brexit is not as simple as we were led to believe.

Yes Theresa May did go back to the people to get a bigger majority of her no deal is better than a bad deal and Tories only sensible party available to lead the nation. Duly lost her majority. This is important as elections and new government over turns any previous advisory referendums.

Since then many debates and motions voted upon and no consensus exists in Parliament for a hard no deal Brexit.

So for Brexiteers to keep banging this same old dribble as if they are the only ones who know what democracy is or that democracy is a one time event is pitifully pathetic.


Brexiteers and Eurosceptics really showing their true colours as UK descends into more chaos.


I beg to differ about Tories purging out the remainers. It is the eurosceptics who need to naff off to the Brexit party and leave the Conservatives. The soul of the Tory party is not dead just yet.


Has anyone heard from our know-it-all Tory CV? Not like him to lose his tongue. :unsure: (y)
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I think the consensus is obvious, MPs thought a deal could be brokered, but the EU wasnt going to offer one that MPs could agree to because the terms are worst than the agreement we already have and probably even worse than the ones agreed to without consent in 1972.

Eurosceptic MPs thought OK we just leave without a withdrawal agreement.

Europhile MPs thought OK we remain.

That's the position we are in now, the EU is not going to offer a good enough withdrawal agreement.

So it's a stark choice: leave without agreement or remain forever.

There is no consensus on the withdrawal agreement (no deal was always a red herring as any trade agreement was always going to be sorted out following withdrawal).

So we leave without agreement on the withdrawal agreement, that is the correct democratic route that meets article 50 and the referendum result anything else does not meet the democratic criteria.

It's been stated often enough but it's worth repeating at this juncture to remind remoaners how far they have strayed from the true path of democracy, losers that still can't face they lost when Brexiteers won the referendum many moons ago.

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Also worth reminding remoaners that we were taken into the political union by parliament, without consent, both 1972 and 1993 were triggers for Brexit.

You don't have democracy without consent of the public, why don't remoaners see these simple democratic facts?
 
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barjon said:
And the kickers are the traitorous Tories of the past who continually rebelled against various Tory governments of the day (and the will of the people who supported the government EU policy). Now the boot is on the other foot and the kickers can’t take it so resort to bullying totalitarianism. Do you really want to run by such a Cummingsiam shower.
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But the boot was placed on the other foot in the 2016 referendum, prior to that was a campaign to leave, no reason to change anything because the democratic process was followed despite the protests to leave.

Now it has been turned around, by the public, MPs don't want to accept it, why?
 
Signalcalc said:
I think the consensus is obvious, MPs thought a deal could be brokered, but the EU wasnt going to offer one that MPs could agree to because the terms are worst than the agreement we already have and probably even worse than the ones agreed to without consent in 1972.
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Hardly obvious. You are very much off-skew. It was said there is no way EU would give a better deal than the one we already have. Anybody who said they could were talking hot air.
Anybody who believed a better deal oculd be had as touted by Brexiteers were fools.

Why would EU do such a thing? Give green light to other countries to do the same. It is ludicrous to suggest that was obvious or the case. You really are distorting facts and your appreciation of the past events are worrying. Simply means Brexiteers don't have a handle on reality. Wishful thinking is just that wishful fanciful thinking we can do this and that and at the end of the day we'll get zilch.


Signalcalc said:
Eurosceptic MPs thought OK we just leave without a withdrawal agreement.
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Not so. Farage was touting the Norwegian deal. Boris touted the Canada ++++ deal. Swiss model was also shouted about. We can have that and this and +++++. Your memory is failing you my fwiend or you have very selective memory. Which is it?
 
Atilla said:
Hardly obvious. You are very much off-skew. It was said there is no way EU would give a better deal than the one we already have. Anybody who said they could were talking hot air.
Anybody who believed a better deal oculd be had as touted by Brexiteers were fools.

Why would EU do such a thing? Give green light to other countries to do the same. It is ludicrous to suggest that was obvious or the case. You really are distorting facts and your appreciation of the past events are worrying. Simply means Brexiteers don't have a handle on reality. Wishful thinking is just that wishful fanciful thinking we can do this and that and at the end of the day we'll get zilch.




Not so. Farage was touting the Norwegian deal. Boris touted the Canada ++++ deal. Swiss model was also shouted about. We can have that and this and +++++. Your memory is failing you my fwiend or you have very selective memory. Which is it?
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So what deal has been offered by the EU that is acceptable to remoaner MPs?

It's obvious what is happening, remoaners don't want a general election because they will lose, which in turn will result in Brexit, remoaners do not want Brexit under any circumstances end of, to pretend otherwise is, well, just pretending.

It's not going away, Brexit will happen sooner or later, the decision has been made article 50 has been agreed, the public want it, it's only the majority of MPs that want to remoan, all of which will be out of a job as soon as we have a general election :ROFLMAO:
 
Listen to Soubrey, remain or a deal, that's it, where's the democracy in that, it should be deal or no-deal she should be talking about, queen remoaner.
 
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