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Gbpusd: W/e review

So the 5673-5878 move looks most likely to have been a pullback in the daily downtrend given Friday's price action ?

January ended on Thursday this week with a trading range of 675pips against a 20 month atr of 541, this was 125% of that 20 month atr. The Monthly candle closed as master bearish engulfing - it's body bearishly engulfing the previous 4 x monthly candle bodies. No fractal swing created by this monthly close but it came at a HH. Price remains under the 200sma on this t/f which remains under the 100sma...and the multi-month 5 year wedge is still intact although a downside break looks more probable now. the t/f remains in an opa range but it may become significant if this downside break of the multi-year wedge pattern should occur ?

The Week ended with price covering 115 % (204pips) of thew 20 week atr (177pips.) The Weekly candle that was till Friday's 5878 hi looking so bullish (a candle is not a candle until it is closed !) actually closed as a bearish candle. No fractal swing created by the weekly candle close but it came at a LL. This t/f remains rangy-bearish re opa conditions (overall price action-previous fractal swing hi/lo analysis) now although no opa downtrend created yet. Like the Monthly - Price trades below it's 200 sma which is below it's 100sma.

Friday's Daily candle saw a pip range of 190pips which is 193% of it's 20 day atr (98pips.) The Friday daily candle closed bearishly after the pullback from 5673 weekly low the 4th LL of it's opa downtrend. No fractal swing created by the daily candle but it came at a LH and is likely to become a fractal swing in it's general opa downtrend- the candle was a master bearish engulfing x 3 thrust and closed close to it's low. Like the Mthly and Wkly the 200sma remains below the 100sma on this t/f and price trades below the 200sma.

The 4Hr to 5878 was beginning to show signs of strength with 2 X HL and a HH at that 5878, but it is likley that the general opa downtrend on this t/f will be re-established following the strong move down off this HH which started pre-U.s NFP data but was compounded by market reaction to that. Price trades under it's 100sma which is under it's 200 sma on this t/f. NO fractal swing created by close of last 4hr candle which was bearish but it comes at a L on this t/f

The 1Hr saw a fractal L printed prior to the U.s NFP data that was below the last 2 x HL's of it's previous general opa uptrend....the very sharp (off the edge of a cliff) fall from the subsequent LH at 5845 has now seen a LL printed at Friday's 5687 lo but this is not a fractal swing yet. Like the 4hr price trades below it's 100sma which is below it's 200sma on this t/f. the t/f has established a classic opa downtrend now.

G/L
 

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superb analysis bigmac. looking very bearish going into next week. by the way how many screens do you trade with?

So the 5673-5878 move looks most likely to have been a pullback in the daily downtrend given Friday's price action ?

January ended on Thursday this week with a trading range of 675pips against a 20 month atr of 541, this was 125% of that 20 month atr. The Monthly candle closed as master bearish engulfing - it's body bearishly engulfing the previous 4 x monthly candle bodies. No fractal swing created by this monthly close but it came at a HH. Price remains under the 200sma on this t/f which remains under the 100sma...and the multi-month 5 year wedge is still intact although a downside break looks more probable now. the t/f remains in an opa range but it may become significant if this downside break of the multi-year wedge pattern should occur ?

The Week ended with price covering 115 % (204pips) of thew 20 week atr (177pips.) The Weekly candle that was till Friday's 5878 hi looking so bullish (a candle is not a candle until it is closed !) actually closed as a bearish candle. No fractal swing created by the weekly candle close but it came at a LL. This t/f remains rangy-bearish re opa conditions (overall price action-previous fractal swing hi/lo analysis) now although no opa downtrend created yet. Like the Monthly - Price trades below it's 200 sma which is below it's 100sma.

Friday's Daily candle saw a pip range of 190pips which is 193% of it's 20 day atr (98pips.) The Friday daily candle closed bearishly after the pullback from 5673 weekly low the 4th LL of it's opa downtrend. No fractal swing created by the daily candle but it came at a LH and is likely to become a fractal swing in it's general opa downtrend- the candle was a master bearish engulfing x 3 thrust and closed close to it's low. Like the Mthly and Wkly the 200sma remains below the 100sma on this t/f and price trades below the 200sma.

The 4Hr to 5878 was beginning to show signs of strength with 2 X HL and a HH at that 5878, but it is likley that the general opa downtrend on this t/f will be re-established following the strong move down off this HH which started pre-U.s NFP data but was compounded by market reaction to that. Price trades under it's 100sma which is under it's 200 sma on this t/f. NO fractal swing created by close of last 4hr candle which was bearish but it comes at a L on this t/f

The 1Hr saw a fractal L printed prior to the U.s NFP data that was below the last 2 x HL's of it's previous general opa uptrend....the very sharp (off the edge of a cliff) fall from the subsequent LH at 5845 has now seen a LL printed at Friday's 5687 lo but this is not a fractal swing yet. Like the 4hr price trades below it's 100sma which is below it's 200sma on this t/f. the t/f has established a classic opa downtrend now.

G/L
 
Looks inconclusive to me until the market opens. The previous d1 swing low was not taken out. I see no reason why they couldn't have done it and wiped out all the stops sitting below if they really wanted to. They didn't do it because they didn't want to give the wrong impression or to cause the price to collapse further. It remains possible it's a shake out for the bulls before an up move. It also serves as a bear bait. As the GBP fall was across the board, the US data had nothing to do with it.

A sharp move like this out of the blue usually indicates manipulation. A reversal of this is probable. We'll see on the open what this is all about.

In the mean time I couldn't access my account to see how much paper pips I am down. First time this ever happened. Something is going on.
 
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been tracking the price on that downtrend since the beginning of the year
any rally needs to take out that trend..imho
box size is 14 pips by 2 reversal
chart only plots the close of hourly data
note the internal trendline /light blue was taken out before nfp and bounce into res/45 deg trendline/gren on friday
p/f is all about plotting trends..so when a downtrend finishes then price is supported.we dont really concern ourselves with levels.currently the trendline is sitting in the 1.5800 area...res in candlestick terms

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It's all done on this beauty...state of the art !

G/L

superb analysis bigmac. looking very bearish going into next week. by the way how many screens do you trade with?
 

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No one knows what will happen next - but anyone looking at those charts would say that is the least probable of 4 possible scenarios In order of highest probability-they are:

1. Price will make more downside progress possibly after a pullback
2. The low will hold and price will go sideways in a range consolidation
3. Price will seek out stops under the 5673 low before a move to the upside.
4. Price will reverse from the current low and turn bullish on successively higher t/f's - ie Friday's move down was a 'shake out.'

Anything can happen and you may be right, - the least probable of those 4 scenarios (no.4 - that you effectively outline in your post) may play out but I think you gotta understand what tech analysis indicates to us about the probabilities. By the way I have no axe to grind here - I as always, ended the week flat.

Also, in a circa $440Bln / day market like gbpusd - Im interested in who you think specifically is doing the ' manipulating ? '

Thanks,

G/L


Looks inconclusive to me until the market opens. The previous d1 swing low was not taken out. I see no reason why they couldn't have done it and wiped out all the stops sitting below if they really wanted to. They didn't do it because they didn't want to give the wrong impression or to cause the price to collapse further. It remains possible it's a shake out for the bulls before an up move. It also serves as a bear bait. As the GBP fall was across the board, the US data had nothing to do with it.

A sharp move like this out of the blue usually indicates manipulation. A reversal of this is probable. We'll see on the open what this is all about.

In the mean time I couldn't access my account to see how much paper pips I am down. First time this ever happened. Something is going on.
 
No one knows what will happen next - but anyone looking at those charts would say that is the least probable of 4 possible scenarios In order of highest probability-they are:

1. Price will make more downside progress possibly after a pullback
2. The low will hold and price will go sideways in a range consolidation
3. Price will seek out stops under the 5673 low before a move to the upside.
4. Price will reverse from the current low and turn bullish on successively higher t/f's - ie Friday's move down was a 'shake out.'

Anything can happen and you may be right, - the least probable of those 4 scenarios (no.4 - that you effectively outline in your post) may play out but I think you gotta understand what tech analysis indicates to us about the probabilities. By the way I have no axe to grind here - I as always, ended the week flat.

Also, in a circa $440Bln / day market like gbpusd - Im interested in who you think specifically is doing the ' manipulating ? '

Thanks,

G/L

I know from experience unusual sharp moves not supported by fundamental, or even technical, reasons are invariably manipulations and subject to sharp reversals. I reckon TA should discount those as noise. This is why I suggest waiting for the open before drawing a conclusion. If it continues down on open, you will have been proven right.

I just find it odd that they did not knock out the stops on Friday when we all know there is a whole load there. The only reason why they did that, I can see, is they still want to keep some of the bulls on board. If those bulls are mislead into believing the trend is turning down, they will go against the the intention of the manipulators, which is to push the price higher - of course after catching a bunch of bears first for a game of shooting fish in a barrel at a later point.

I believe the $bln upon $bln of volume is the manipulator 'trading' with itself. I further believe it is cost free for it to do that. The manipulator could be a single bank or a group of banks who are there to pick up free money.

Just be patient. We will see tomorrow night exactly what the game is. It is natural to believe the 'momentum' will carry it lower. I don't think it will happen. This is where TA will fail and the banks will pick up more free money.

Feel free to grind the axe or stick the knife in. If it's that easy, everyone would be doing it. It's all a game, I tell ya.
 
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I don't trade forex, but always like looking at bbmac's analyses. Quite intrigued to see this (thumbnail) on the monthly.

BeginnerJoe

I don't actually subscribe to any of this "they" who are busy trying to knock out stops (or not) or manipulating the price since I think most activity is as described so well by the two GammaJammer articles on here. Big money being moved around and not a chart in sight.

Be interested know what evidence you have, or is it just your feeling that it operates like that. Not a knock at you - I really am interested :)

jon
 

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I don't actually subscribe to any of this "they" who are busy trying to knock out stops...

Be interested know what evidence you have, or is it just your feeling that it operates like that.....

When he places a stop, it gets hit :LOL:

No really :LOL:

That's :LOL:
His :LOL:
Evidence :LOL:
 

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The reason stops are hunted is an issue of liquidity. If you need to get out of a 5 yard position you need to pick a spot where there is the most liquidity otherwise you will move price against your position. The liquidity of the stops enable an orderly exit. The market constantly searches out liquidity hence we price moves towards previous support and resistance.

Kinell bud it aint rocket science. Simple Supply and demand.
 
The reason stops are hunted is an issue of liquidity. If you need to get out of a 5 yard position you need to pick a spot where there is the most liquidity otherwise you will move price against your position. The liquidity of the stops enable an orderly exit. The market constantly searches out liquidity hence we price moves towards previous support and resistance.

Kinell bud it aint rocket science. Simple Supply and demand.

Yes, I get all that, cable. It's just that I think that the people "trading" forex (in the sense of the way that we retail boys do it) are very small beer set against the big money being moved around for all sorts of purposes. If that is right, then the thought of those "traders" being able to influence the price to any degree makes as much sense as a kid trying to stop a train with a pea-shooter.
 
u gotta be a bit careful
30 min data input
from 21st january...price is in a big consolidation,with moves up to horizontal res and moves down to a slightly lower supports
basically..no real trend..just tests of levels.
it could move down a step and then recoil
res areas might be more important than support
21 pips box size
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When he places a stop, it gets hit :LOL:

I don't use stop. There is something much better, and it's not a hedge. See if you can work out what it is ? No, it's not coin tossing either. Yes, I like your pyramid. It's all interconnected.
 
I don't trade forex, but always like looking at bbmac's analyses. Quite intrigued to see this (thumbnail) on the monthly.

BeginnerJoe

I don't actually subscribe to any of this "they" who are busy trying to knock out stops (or not) or manipulating the price since I think most activity is as described so well by the two GammaJammer articles on here. Big money being moved around and not a chart in sight.

Be interested know what evidence you have, or is it just your feeling that it operates like that. Not a knock at you - I really am interested :)

jon

My evidence comes from my long hours of mano-a-mano with the manipulator, where it would move 50 pips just to get a 1/1000th of a penny win. From that it's easy to work out the cost-free nature of price moves. When the price can be moved for free, that gives a license to print money. Once someone has that licence, there is no need to make money any other way.

There isn't as much business as you think in forex. Retail casino goers are who keep it ticking most of the time. This is why they go to the trouble of making it a 24 hour market.
 
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