Ukraine invasion

CavaliereVerde said:
About the attack to Odessa.
Yesterday they said it was staged.
Today they say it was a precision strike.
www.dw.com

'Even Russians expect defeat,' says Zelenskyy – DW – 07/24/2022

As the war enters its sixth month, the Ukrainian president vows his forces will "inflict the highest possible damage on the enemy." Russia said the Odesa strikes hit military installations. DW rounds up the latest.
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It looks like my first assumption was wrong.
I'm still missing an official statement by Russia on TASS.

southfront.org

Russian Strike On Odessa Port Destroyed Ukrainian Warship, US-Supplied Harpoon Missiles (Video)

The July 23 missile strike on the port of Odessa destroyed a docked Ukrainian warship as well as a warehouse...
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But ...
"We managed to reach an agreement in Istanbul: Ukraine demines ports and lets ships take to sea, while Russia, Turkey and one more party, which will be determined later, escort the ships to the Bosporus," he said at a meeting with the ambassadors of the Arab League nations."

www.ibtimes.com

What We Know About The Russia-Ukraine Grain Deal

What we know about the Russia-Ukraine grain deal
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I didn't find an English translation for this, only German version. I do not take that as official statement as I take Pravda as populistic.
deutsch.pravda.ru

Russisches Verteidigungsministerium meldet Zerstörung von Harpoon-Werfern aus US-Produktion bei Odessa

Russische Luft- und Raumfahrtkräfte haben die Trägerrakete des US-amerikanischen Harpoon-Schiffsabwehrkomplexes getroffen, teilte das Verteidigungsministerium bei
deutsch.pravda.ru deutsch.pravda.ru

english.pravda.ru

Joe Biden's misfortune: Dementia, cancer and now Covid

It is a national tragedy that a fragile, senile, non compos mentis old man is the president of the United States
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Maybe the rotation in the Russian forces is the reason that currently there are not much moves on the borderline.
english.pravda.ru

Calm before the storm in Ukraine will not last long – expert

The situation in the Donbass region is now relatively stable. But the rotation of the Russian Armed Forces is ending, which means that forces have been accumulated
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CavaliereVerde said:
Still no proof of himars loss but proofs of successful strikes every day.
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No, sorry, today is more an exception.
There was none like this yesterday and the day before .. besides it is an Ukrainian friendly site.

I read more an TASS about the shelling of DPR and LPR residential areas and I don't find them on that Ukro map.
Conclusion: yes, they are mainly shelling civilian objects and of course they don't show that on their war maps.
 
IlIlIlIlI said:
I read more an TASS about the shelling of DPR and LPR residential areas
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That is the problem, russian propaganda will never admit himars are successful.
You will probabaly read: every western weapon destroyed.
And the following day blame the same weapons of targeting civilians.
 
CavaliereVerde said:
That is the problem, russian propaganda will never admit himars are successful.
You will probabaly read: every western weapon destroyed.
And the following day blame the same weapons of targeting civilians.
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You're wrong.
Please start reading/searching TASS before you have an opinion about it. Thx.

tass.com

TASS Russian News Agency

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Putin has Europe where he wants it​

"Putin is managing to make Europe look politically powerless."

It very much appears to me that not only is Putin achieving his military objectives in Ukraine - but he's doing a great job at nudging the whole of Europe into recession. The sanctions imposed on Russia aren't just a hole in the foot for Europe - it's more akin to blowing off both feet. And yet, the media (and Liz Truss on last night's head-to-head with Rishi Sunak) will have us all believe the sanctions are proving to be highly effective at stymying Putin's war effort. No evidence of that whatsoever that I can see, whereas there's any amount of evidence that they're hurting ordinary people in the west.
Tim.
 
timsk said:

Putin has Europe where he wants it​

"Putin is managing to make Europe look politically powerless."

It very much appears to me that not only is Putin achieving his military objectives in Ukraine - but he's doing a great job at nudging the whole of Europe into recession. The sanctions imposed on Russia aren't just a hole in the foot for Europe - it's more akin to blowing off both feet. And yet, the media (and Liz Truss on last night's head-to-head with Rishi Sunak) will have us all believe the sanctions are proving to be highly effective at stymying Putin's war effort. No evidence of that whatsoever that I can see, whereas there's any amount of evidence that they're hurting ordinary people in the west.
Tim.
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I wonder how long it will be before ordinary people in the west stop saying "I stand with Ukraine" and start saying "I can't stand Ukraine"

All the billions being spent by the USA to fight a proxy war in a foreign land while their own civilians at home are starving...the White House is even trying to alter the definition of recession to dupe them...
 
timsk said:

Putin has Europe where he wants it​

"Putin is managing to make Europe look politically powerless."

It very much appears to me that not only is Putin achieving his military objectives in Ukraine - but he's doing a great job at nudging the whole of Europe into recession. The sanctions imposed on Russia aren't just a hole in the foot for Europe - it's more akin to blowing off both feet. And yet, the media (and Liz Truss on last night's head-to-head with Rishi Sunak) will have us all believe the sanctions are proving to be highly effective at stymying Putin's war effort. No evidence of that whatsoever that I can see, whereas there's any amount of evidence that they're hurting ordinary people in the west.
Tim.
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And nobody in the German and European government is thinking seriously about activating Nord Stream II which would avoid any problems with the gas supply.

tass.com

German Vice Chancellor warns of âserious situationâ amid reducing Russian gas supply

Robert Habeck noted that there is some gas supply from the Netherlands and Norway
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IlIlIlIlI said:
And nobody in the German and European government is thinking seriously about activating Nord Stream II which would avoid any problems with the gas supply.

tass.com

German Vice Chancellor warns of âserious situationâ amid reducing Russian gas supply

Robert Habeck noted that there is some gas supply from the Netherlands and Norway
tass.com tass.com
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Germany is afraid of antagonising the US government and facing trade restrictions herself.

After a point there will come a time when trade with, let's call it the East will be greater than the West. Their purchasing power is increasing all the time.

When that time comes the US will then see the back of Europe.

Asian trade pacts have already been signed by the BRICs.
 
Here's an eye opening interview with Gonzalo Lira, an independent journalist living in Ukraine who's been highlighting aspects of the Zelensky regime and the Ukraine war that western MSM studiously avoids. He puts forward a strong argument that it would suit U.S. interests very well if Zelenksy was assassinated - and why Putin and Russia would suffer if he was. Time perhaps for Zelensky and his family to get on that Virgin airways flight to Necker Island? Disturbing stuff, but interesting and thought provoking nonetheless. . .

 
IlIlIlIlI said:
And nobody in the German and European government is thinking seriously about activating Nord Stream II which would avoid any problems with the gas supply.

tass.com

German Vice Chancellor warns of âserious situationâ amid reducing Russian gas supply

Robert Habeck noted that there is some gas supply from the Netherlands and Norway
tass.com tass.com
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Looks like someone read my post :)
tass.com

Bundestag deputy believes Nord Stream 2 should be launched as soon as possible

The German government reported several times in recent weeks that the use of Nord Stream 2 is not planned, since the pipeline is not certified
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timsk said:
Here's an eye opening interview with Gonzalo Lira, an independent journalist living in Ukraine who's been highlighting aspects of the Zelensky regime and the Ukraine war that western MSM studiously avoids. He puts forward a strong argument that it would suit U.S. interests very well if Zelenksy was assassinated - and why Putin and Russia would suffer if he was. Time perhaps for Zelensky and his family to get on that Virgin airways flight to Necker Island? Disturbing stuff, but interesting and thought provoking nonetheless. . .

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Breaking News.

Commy Russian sympathiser interviews commy Russian sympathiser and they end the interview in complete agreement.

:rolleyes: :poop:
 
Sympathizing for Putin or Xi has nothing to do with communism anymore.
At least communism had some sense, sympathizing for authoritarian regimes has more to do with fascism.
I think is the pleasure to be different and contrarian or to be anti US.
Being anti US makes a lot of sense but not in this case.
If you dont' like US imperialism backing russian imperialism makes even less sense.
 
CavaliereVerde said:
Sympathizing for Putin or Xi has nothing to do with communism anymore.
At least communism had some sense, sympathizing for authoritarian regimes has more to do with fascism.
I think is the pleasure to be different and contrarian or to be anti US.
Being anti US makes a lot of sense but not in this case.
If you dont' like US imperialism backing russian imperialism makes even less sense.
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Slogans...is this all you are capable of? :rolleyes:

All I see in this thread are outdated cold war era prejudices about Russia that I grew up with. Has Russia ever dropped a nuke on a country? Did Russia ever bomb the UK? There must be a reason why this prejudice exists, surely it can't be a hangover from the cold war era propaganda!? What is the reason to hate Russia apart from what the television has told you?
 
counter_violent said:
Commy Russian sympathiser interviews commy Russian sympathiser and they end the interview in complete agreement.
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Oh dear c_v,
Not content with with ignoring the message and shooting the messenger, you go a step further and shoot the person interviewing the messenger as well. 😲

Breaking news for you: I'm no lover of George Galloway either. But he has nothing whatsoever to do with the content. Gonzalo Lira could just as easily have done that interview with UK Column News - and I can assure you they're not 'commy sympathisers'. I even thought of adding a note below the vid' especially for you and your partner in crime saying something to the effect: 'comment on the content by all means - your thoughts would be appreciated - but please spare us your criticism of the the messenger and interviewer'. I only decided against it because I thought it was a tad patronising. But perhaps that's what I'm going to have to do with everything I link to from now on? Can't we just take it as read that you don't like any commentator or source who deviates from the mainstream narrative of 'Zelensky and Ukraine good - Putin and Russia bad'. There's really no point in any of us continuing to post to the thread if all you and CV are going to do is to ignore the message and shoot the messenger.
Tim.
 
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