timsk
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c_v,
You and other hawks on the side of the argument that wants to promote a forever war and shun all talk of peace, like to paint me, At' and Histo' et al on this thread as 'Putin apologists'. And Farage too, I suspect. In doing this, you're making two massive - as in gargantuan - mistakes.
The first of these is to fail to understand and/or accept that most of those who claim that Russia was provoked into the war with Ukraine are not supporters of Putin and do not think his invasion was justified. This is my view. It's certainly that of Profs. Sachs, Mearsheimer and, as I understand it, that of Nigel Farage. Accusing critics like them (and us on this thread) as Putin apologist is just a crude slur to avoid addressing uncomfortable truths and questions for which you have no answers. You will remember very well how, back in 2016, and the years following the referendum, leave voters like us were cast into the 'basket of deplorables' (to borrow Hillary Clinton's infamous phrase to describe Trump voters). We were - and, arguably, still are - dumped into the basket of 'racists and zenophobes'. There have been many other examples since - a handful of which include:
- Those who questioned the merits of lockdowns and masks during the pandemic were dumped into the basket of 'granny killers'.
- Those who question whether Covid 'vaccines' are safe and effective are dumped into the basket of 'anti-vaxxers'.
- Those who question whether climate change is man made are dumped into the basket of 'climate change deniers'.
'Realists' like Profs. Sachs & Mearsheimer, military men like Col. Douglas McGregor & Scott Ritter and CIA analysts like Ray McGovern & Larry Johnson (to name but a few), are all U.S. citizens who have sworn on oath to serve and protect their country. And get this; they all STILL (note emphasis) stand by that oath. How can this be: oil and water don't mix, right? The answer to this conundrum is simple. They absolutely are not - I repeat are NOT - Putin apologists. Instead, what they actually are are fierce critics of U.S. foreign policy. Big difference; not the same thing at all. Massive. Huge. Kindly take note!
If you make the effort to take on board these two critical points - then you might start to see the light and appreciate what's really going on. However, if you insist on keeping the blinkers on and shouting from the rooftops what you so desperately hope, want and wish for (which you must surely realise will never happen) - then there's no hope for you and, ultimately, I guarantee you will be bitterly, bitterly disappointed.
I hope you take this post in the spirit it is intended - which is to be constructive and helpful.
Tim.
). He still has more brains than what's left in Biden and lies less than Trump.
