UK Politics

counter_violent said:
The LibDems are just another left wing protest party. Have been for years ever since they made a pact with the Labour reject Social Democrats.
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Absolutely. I never engaged with the Liberals when that's what they were so can't think of anything they stood for - maybe that's because they never formed a government in anyone's life-time. But they'll never get the chance in a first past the post system. When the LibDems did form a coalition - most they could hope for - they ineptly screwed up their own opportunity.
 
When discussing the election and its key talking points with Mrs. timsk she's commented that I appear to have moved - or am moving - to the right in my views. This is not how I view myself at all. I accept that I have some views that are associated with the right (e.g. wanting to reduce mass immigration to sustainable levels), but I also have some views that are associated with the left (e.g. ensuring the NHS is available to all, regardless of wealth and free at the point of delivery). So, where am I on the political spectrum? I decided to take this test to find out: Political Compass Test

So folks, take the test and, if you dare, share the results with everyone here. My result is below.
Tim.

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Right where I expected. Probably.

Silly answer choice mind when there is no neutral option.

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Probably not far from where I would expect to be on not such a scientific experiment. Question is where do the political parties sit in this square?

I would put illibundems, Labour, SNP and green somewhere in the top left to differing degrees, TBP would be similar to CVs, maybe a bit more into the authoritarian side, Tories would be in the top right somewhere.

So that leaves a massive gap on the Libertarian side, to my mind that is a disaster for British politics, there are parties that fall into this category but they are less mainstream than the Greens.

A very unbalanced political picture and a major reason why we have so many problems that are not being tackled.

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Signalcalc said:
Probably not far from where I would expect to be on not such a scientific experiment. . .
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I'm genuinely surprised Sig'.
Based on your posts here on T2W (all of which I devour with great interest!), I'd have put you on the right hand side of the left / right line, probably somewhere around where c_v and Tom are. That you are pretty much bang on par with barjon is not a result I'd ever have predicted. Interesting!
Tim.
 
It's appears to be a somewhat gimmicky-type app which depends on rather binary questions/answers & questions which don't really encompass the full opinion of the subject - and often don't permit full expression. Several people have remarked upon their surprise at their result and myself, considered to be fairly well to the Right by many of my friends, came out somewhere in the middle. Many on the Left now categorise what used to be regarded as traditional centre-right politics as being Hard Right! So I have my suspicions of this test – it produces results but are they any good? And of course you don't get many followers by saying that your results are in any way questionable. Maybe it's the equivalent of a trading "indicator" – and we all know how reliable they are. Another piece of socialistic tosh?
 
0007 said:
It's appears to be a somewhat gimmicky-type app which depends on rather binary questions/answers & questions which don't really encompass the full opinion of the subject - and often don't permit full expression. Several people have remarked upon their surprise at their result and myself, considered to be fairly well to the Right by many of my friends, came out somewhere in the middle. Many on the Left now categorise what used to be regarded as traditional centre-right politics as being Hard Right! So I have my suspicions of this test – it produces results but are they any good? And of course you don't get many followers by saying that your results are in any way questionable. Maybe it's the equivalent of a trading "indicator" – and we all know how reliable they are. Another piece of socialistic tosh?
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Great point. Possibly left-biased composition. Some obvious questions with answers favoured by the "hard right" aren't even asked.
 
0007 said:
It's appears to be a somewhat gimmicky-type app which depends on rather binary questions/answers & questions which don't really encompass the full opinion of the subject - and often don't permit full expression. Several people have remarked upon their surprise at their result and myself, considered to be fairly well to the Right by many of my friends, came out somewhere in the middle. Many on the Left now categorise what used to be regarded as traditional centre-right politics as being Hard Right! So I have my suspicions of this test – it produces results but are they any good? And of course you don't get many followers by saying that your results are in any way questionable. Maybe it's the equivalent of a trading "indicator" – and we all know how reliable they are. Another piece of socialistic tosh?
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Quite so.
If the question setter never asks the questions that people want to answer, then he will always broadly get the answer he desires.

Friggin commies everywhere !

Even more insidious is when the question setter then offers up their results in the policy arena. People's opinions here, therefore policy should be this.

That's why so many feel they have no representation. They are correct.
 
WHAT??!!
Quite a lot of the questions required nuanced and contextual reading, but you are required to give absolute answers. I erred on the side of caution.
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timsk said:
I'm genuinely surprised Sig'.
Based on your posts here on T2W (all of which I devour with great interest!), I'd have put you on the right hand side of the left / right line, probably somewhere around where c_v and Tom are. That you are pretty much bang on par with barjon is not a result I'd ever have predicted. Interesting!
Tim.
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I wouldn't put too much faith in this, as others are highlighting, it depends on how the questions are set/biased as to what the results may turn out to be. Looking at the state of politics over the last 10 years or so, it also doesn't surprise me that left/right policies have fallen by the wayside (along with libertarianism). For the last 30 years we have been slowly descending into a more authoritarian style of govt. Political correctness, common purpose, the adoption of far left minority ideologies into our institutions, including the police, military, security services and judiciary, the effect of the EU supra-legalistic judiciary forces that have been imposed, the cover-ups where political correctness has played a major part, the battle for control of the internet and social media, wikileaks and Snowden.

All of these have turned policy away from one of relative freedom that we had until around the end of the 90's beginning of the noughties (before the social media age really got going) to the brink of censorship, removal of free speech, loss of dissenting voices, de-platforming at speaking events and hustings, street violence on non-violent protests (with law enforcement turning a blind eye), orwell's vision is here and getting worse.

The left and right has become more authoritative as they see this as a way to gain and maintain power, look at how XR protests are tolerated like no other protest group is, there is your current [global] agenda, using the climate and children to guilt trip us all.

Look at the blame game and points scoring regarding the latest London Bridge attack, I bet no-one had envisaged that convicted terrorists wouldn't be locked away never to be seen again, and yet here they are walking amongst, knife in hand, another 23,000 on terror watch lists in the UK alone. Tories have had ample time to look at all these things and yet done nothing about them, same for mass immigration, it's been left to get out of control without the consent of the public.

You tell me what are left/right policies anymore in the traditional sense, both major parties have melded into an orwellian nightmare with blurred lines between the two, they have become indistinguishable in policy terms, to the point where they profess to be able to plant more trees than other parties without the maths to back it up.

Childish politics is all it is, it needs an unknown (mainstreamwise) party, with policies that the public can consent to rather than the govt of occupation we always seem to be getting.

Look I didn't even mention the word Brexit in all of that, I'm doing well :ROFLMAO:
 
Signalcalc said:
I wouldn't put too much faith in this, as others are highlighting, it depends on how the questions are set/biased as to what the results may turn out to be. Looking at the state of politics over the last 10 years or so, it also doesn't surprise me that left/right policies have fallen by the wayside (along with libertarianism). For the last 30 years we have been slowly descending into a more authoritarian style of govt. Political correctness, common purpose, the adoption of far left minority ideologies into our institutions, including the police, military, security services and judiciary, the effect of the EU supra-legalistic judiciary forces that have been imposed, the cover-ups where political correctness has played a major part, the battle for control of the internet and social media, wikileaks and Snowden.

All of these have turned policy away from one of relative freedom that we had until around the end of the 90's beginning of the noughties (before the social media age really got going) to the brink of censorship, removal of free speech, loss of dissenting voices, de-platforming at speaking events and hustings, street violence on non-violent protests (with law enforcement turning a blind eye), orwell's vision is here and getting worse.

The left and right has become more authoritative as they see this as a way to gain and maintain power, look at how XR protests are tolerated like no other protest group is, there is your current [global] agenda, using the climate and children to guilt trip us all.

Look at the blame game and points scoring regarding the latest London Bridge attack, I bet no-one had envisaged that convicted terrorists wouldn't be locked away never to be seen again, and yet here they are walking amongst, knife in hand, another 23,000 on terror watch lists in the UK alone. Tories have had ample time to look at all these things and yet done nothing about them, same for mass immigration, it's been left to get out of control without the consent of the public.

You tell me what are left/right policies anymore in the traditional sense, both major parties have melded into an orwellian nightmare with blurred lines between the two, they have become indistinguishable in policy terms, to the point where they profess to be able to plant more trees than other parties without the maths to back it up.

Childish politics is all it is, it needs an unknown (mainstreamwise) party, with policies that the public can consent to rather than the govt of occupation we always seem to be getting.

Look I didn't even mention the word Brexit in all of that, I'm doing well :ROFLMAO:
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If we are being honest, Brexit only happened because of the whole list of reasons you outlined.

It was our One chance to give all of them a good kicking.....and we took full advantage. (y)
 
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