Trump Presidency and the Consequences

[joseph1986]

 

[Atilla]

Listened to these 50 alternative facts carefully and it is quite shocking.

So many in such short space of time.

Increasingly though watching him on TV he doesn't look as happy.

His going to have four walls close in on him.


Heard Obama having fun wind surfing with Richard Branson. Top man. His earnt it imho.

 

[joseph1986]

Listened to these 50 alternative facts carefully and it is quite shocking.

So many in such short space of time.

Increasingly though watching him on TV he doesn't look as happy.

His going to have four walls close in on him.


Heard Obama having fun wind surfing with Richard Branson. Top man. His earnt it imho.

not sure but this isn't looking good for the office. Media blitz here is 24/7 on him.
Not sure what to make of it especially when uk speaker says he's not welcome at your parliament. I think whenever there have been presidents in the past as crazy as trump theres always a moment where he will do the one crazy thing to make an example out of someone/institution....te question is when and what person/institution......if i had to take a guess i think it would be the republican party itself. Only a matter of time before this russian bromance gets some intervention from the hawks in the gop.

 

[joseph1986]

imho, i think media should dial back at least for the sake of the office. But he just gives them content, best one being the twitter rant on the judge who ruled against his immigration order. you literally had other judges pleading to him that his words could put the nation into a calamity. At least we know now the electors that voted for him made a catastrophic mistake....one that could have serious geopolitical consequences decades from now

 

[dbphoenix]

imho, i think media should dial back at least for the sake of the office.

It is for the sake of the office that they are being critical. That is one of the primary functions of a free press. They are not criticizing the office; they are criticizing the officeholder. This is particularly pertinent since the officeholder has little to no respect for the office.

 

[Atilla]

I believe or perhaps more hope that the US democratic & government controls will act as some kind of restraint on extremes. America has a mature democracy. I also hope there will be enough republicans when they see what is being done to their country will vote against Trump.

Give someone enough rope and they'll hang them selves. We just need to give the white supremists a little bit more rope before they go OT. Always the same way with these people.

Sadly it doesn't look good in the short term.

 

[postman]

Well the banksters love him, because compared to him they look like saints.

 

[Atilla]

Was also shocked and stunned to hear Betsy DeVos has no formal education experience being promoted to the top job, much like Trump.

Trump said he'll put the most amazing, wonderful, skilled people into authority but what's amazing is just how much lack of skill exists in his nominees.

Drain the swamp he said and we find out her main qualification is DeVos is the wife of, Richard Marvin DeVos Jr., whose billionaire father co-founded Amway.. No education background at all.

When asked about guns in school, she replied I'm sure they must have one or two to shoot bears with.


Only two republica senators objected to the placing. I guess they all want to keep their jobs.


What the average or middle American should now appreciate is what it means to their childrens education.

I guess I'd be considered a cynic if I were to think Trump is indeed smart and wants to expand his voter base by dumbing down education. (Forgive me guys couldn't resist).

 

[joseph1986]

It is for the sake of the office that they are being critical. That is one of the primary functions of a free press. They are not criticizing the office; they are criticizing the officeholder. This is particularly pertinent since the officeholder has little to no respect for the office.

If the media continues what its doing we may see civil unrest. SO...
run 247 attacks on him like they are doing now and allow other nations to mock the office of the presidency and have protesters organize...or give him 1 year respite .
If cnn,abc,nbc and cbs continue this total bombardment nothing good will come out of it.....

 

[dbphoenix]

I guess I'd be considered a cynic if I were to think Trump is indeed smart and wants to expand his voter base by dumbing down education. (Forgive me guys couldn't resist).

That's pretty much what Republicans have been doing for at least thirty years with their dismissal of science, which enables them to dismiss facts, which enables them to dismiss journalism ("fake news"). If there is no objective truth, then demagogues can spin whatever realities they please. This applies globally as well.

 

[joseph1986]

That's pretty much what Republicans have been doing for at least thirty years with their dismissal of science, which enables them to dismiss facts, which enables them to dismiss journalism ("fake news"). If there is no objective truth, then demagogues can spin whatever realities they please. This applies globally as well.

you have a point with the blatant lies of press secretary.....then labeling actual events fake news....this is well......only word that comes to mind is "unprecedented"

 

[dbphoenix]

you have a point with the blatant lies of press secretary.....then labeling actual events fake news....this is well......only word that comes to mind is "unprecedented"

The blatancy of it may be unprecedented, but it's a natural progression of the disinformation campaigns of WWI and WWII (though disinformation as a technique goes all the way back to the Roman Empire, if not before).

 

[dbphoenix]

[Melania Trump's] lawsuit asserts the escort story damaged her chances of profiting from her high profile, which expanded when she married Donald Trump in 2005 but has soared since he was elected president in November and the Slovenian native became the first foreign-born first lady in nearly two centuries.

Trump's filing claims she "had the unique, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, as an extremely famous and well-known person, as well as a former professional model, brand spokesperson and successful businesswoman, to launch a broad-based commercial brand in multiple product categories, each of which could have garnered multi-million dollar business relationships for a multi-year term during which Plaintiff is one of the most photographed women in the world.”

Those product categories could have included apparel, accessories, jewelry, cosmetics, hair care and fragrance, among others, the lawsuit says.

But hold the outrage — Trump's attorney, California media lawyer Charles Harder, insists that doesn't mean she intends to monetize her new role as critics have implied.

"The first lady has no intention of using her position for profit and will not do so," Harder said in an emailed statement to USA TODAY. "It is not a possibility. Any statements to the contrary are being misinterpreted."

But when pressed for a reason for why her lawsuit contains such language, Harder did not respond.

--USA Today

 

[Pat494]

It's ALL about money money and more money.
He knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
He likes to wrong foot his opponents by flirting with unreality and illusion.
A smokescreen of lies and half truths.
Is he clever enough to carry this off in the glare of the media ? We shall see.

 

[Atilla]

It's ALL about money money and more money.
He knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
He likes to wrong foot his opponents by flirting with unreality and illusion.
A smokescreen of lies and half truths.
Is he clever enough to carry this off in the glare of the media ? We shall see.

I have a slightly different perspective.

Not that is he clever enough but whether the electorate are foolish enough to believe in him.

Aztec's believed in the sun god and human sacrifice but did that help with the rains or famine?

People believed in Hitler and followed him in their journey to be the greatest race and look where that led them.

Some people still believe the World is only 10,000 years old and we are descendants of Adam and Eve. God bless them all.


People will believe all kinds of words if they are aligned in the right way and said with meaning and belief. :innocent:

 

[Pat494]

I have a slightly different perspective.

Not that is he clever enough but whether the electorate are foolish enough to believe in him.

Aztec's believed in the sun god and human sacrifice but did that help with the rains or famine?

People believed in Hitler and followed him in their journey to be the greatest race and look where that led them.

Some people still believe the World is only 10,000 years old and we are descendants of Adam and Eve. God bless them all.


People will believe all kinds of words if they are aligned in the right way and said with meaning and belief. :innocent:

All too true.
People believe what makes them feel better and that may not be the truth.

 

[hhiusa]

All too true.
People believe what makes them feel better and that may not be the truth.

Do you have Bible scripture alluding to the fact that the Earth and humanity is only 10,000 years old?
I just ask because you are making fun of the Bible thumpers.

The world is old, yes, but, Homo Sapiens not so much. Since you two are arguing that you understand truths that others do not. Modern humans ~190,000 years. Earth ~4.5 billion years. I think the point being made is that humans represent such a small portion of the age of the Earth.

We are not destroying the planet, we are destroying ourselves. This planet is resilient. It will survive us.

 

[Signalcalc]

Plastics will be the end of us, the seeds have been sown, I wonder how long it will take for the microscopic world of plastic to kill us all.

 

[dbphoenix]

T.J. Maxx, Marshall's Back Away From Ivanka Trump as President Assails Nordstrom

The upside of capitalism

 

[dbphoenix]

Trump is 2nd president to tout unfinished Intel factory

President Donald Trump is pointing to Intel's plan to invest $7 billion in an Arizona factory as a win for his economic agenda.

So Intel "announced last year that it planned to lay off 12,000 workers in a reorganization prompted by a decline in sales of personal computers" and plans to hire 3,000 for this factory.

This is job growth?