Theresa May

Pat494 said:
Thank goodness the silly woman doesn't want MORE submarines.
Trump is also cutting welfare to pay for even more weapons. If only the terrorists would crawl away - the politicians would not have the excuse to waste even more money on weapons.
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Defence industries need bogey men and a cause to fight against.

Trump bombs Syria and his ratings go up.

Russia's been fighting ISIS and Russia for some reason is the bogey man and US is weak.

People perceptions and reality are two different things.
 
tomorton said:
Back here in the UK, let's face it, nobody can manage education or health.
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Well if you are out of ideas let Labour manage it.

On Radio 4 this morning they said Tories promising 4bn by 2020 for education whilst 500m for grammer schools. All about segregation, exclusion and feeding the well off. :(

4bn is actually a 3% reduction by the time one factors in inflation and increase in class numbers.

Labour's manifesto has a 3% increase and LibDems keep it as we are now.


Tories keep saying they are putting more money in but they are not. They cut services and give away corporation and inheritance tax breaks.


Anyhow, I thought this was good news. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...oll-shows-tory-lead-narrows-after-bomb-attack

More young people registering to vote than ever before. Free education is the future for the UK. How stupid is it to staunt talent and burden young people with debt?

Then import skilled educated bodies from abroad. The old strategy sucks big time. About time it was put right. LibDems have got a kicking by the youth vote but the youth really need to turn their anger at the daft Tories, party of the fat cats.
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Atilla said:
Well if you are out of ideas let Labour manage it.

On Radio 4 this morning they said Tories promising 4bn by 2020 for education whilst 500m for grammer schools. All about segregation, exclusion and feeding the well off. :(

4bn is actually a 3% reduction by the time one factors in inflation and increase in class numbers.

Labour's manifesto has a 3% increase and LibDems keep it as we are now.


Tories keep saying they are putting more money in but they are not. They cut services and give away corporation and inheritance tax breaks.


Anyhow, I thought this was good news. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...oll-shows-tory-lead-narrows-after-bomb-attack

More young people registering to vote than ever before. Free education is the future for the UK. How stupid is it to staunt talent and burden young people with debt?

Then import skilled educated bodies from abroad. The old strategy sucks big time. About time it was put right. LibDems have got a kicking by the youth vote but the youth really need to turn their anger at the daft Tories, party of the fat cats.
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Indeed, the last people who should be entrusted with running something important, like education, health, defence, security etc. would be politicians. I don't believe they could even run a sweet-shop profitably.

But no particular party's politicians have a better than average ability in this regard, nor are they more honest or dedicated or corrupt or lazy than the other parties people aggregated together. So plumping for a party that is not in power because the party in power has b@llsed it up is naive: only the party in power can b@lls it up for pete's sake.

The party that might do better is the one that incentivises the population, from richest to poorest, to expand the economy and iron out its issues, without their interference. With the right incentives and freedoms, people are smart and hard-working, and they will find a way to do whatever it takes. On this score, Socialist, Marxist and Communist parties lose.

I have got no idea why the Conservatives are so committed to grammar schools but I expect they will b@lls it up even if they're right.

According to BBC, not me, the cut in corporation tax over the last few years has generated a higher tax income for the treasury. If high salary earners and profitable businesses end up paying more tax and I haven't, what's wrong with that?

Free university fees is a diversion. Martin Lewis on moneysavingexpert.com has consistently said for years that student loans are virtually free money given away by the government. Anyone considering voting for a party advocating zero fees should read what he says, not the self-serving politicians.
 
Our Mrs Poodle is like a Trump echo.
He is putting m0re troops into Afghanistan and she dutifully commits British troops there too !
What another total waste of taxpayers money.

And talking of wasted billions what about the £60bn she wants to blow on the high speed line up North ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16473296
The time saved is almost negligible.
The money pocketed by some will be huge though. Like the ex-Chancellor talking it up.
 
Pat494 said:
Our Mrs Poodle is like a Trump echo.
He is putting m0re troops into Afghanistan and she dutifully commits British troops there too !
What another total waste of taxpayers money.

And talking of wasted billions what about the £60bn she wants to blow on the high speed line up North ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16473296
The time saved is almost negligible.
The money pocketed by some will be huge though. Like the ex-Chancellor talking it up.
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We've been interfering in Afghanistan since the mid 19th century! Lady Theresa is just continuing a long-standing British tradition.

As far as trains are concerned I'm sure the average commuter would just like a seat at a price he can afford on a train that actually runs. 20 minutes off the time to get to the North is pretty meaningless to those commuters in London who subsidise the rest of the country.

The problem with Theresa (as was the same with "call me Dave") is that she doesn't know what she believes in and now that her original two brain cells have been sacked she now depends on some new implants. Strong leaders know where they are going and what they stand for. This is the woman who transmogrified from Remainer to Brexiteer. Like Dave, she does a good line in Yukspeak political talk but it ain't good enough.

Cometh the hour cometh the man ....... I wish :rolleyes:
 
Afghanistan really broke the British Empire with some crushing defeats ( the retreat from Kabul etc. ). Ditto the Soviet Empire. Why the politicians don't give it a rest I don't know. It has no oil/minerals etc.

Better left alone
 
More political cr@p for those interested !

Full source here: https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-08-27/u-k-newspaper-guesses-on-may-s-future

"After this year’s election disaster, May won’t be allowed to fight another contest. She’ll go when the Tories feel they can manage another contest, and the election that would likely follow, when keeping her is judged to be more painful than losing her, or when a successor correctly judges they have the best chance of supplanting her.

For those who want to argue which prime ministers did best at choosing their departure dates, the Tory lawmaker and journalist Danny Finkelstein suggests: Pitt the Elder, the Earl of Derby, the Marquess of Salisbury, Ramsay Macdonald, Stanley Baldwin, Winston Churchill and Harold Wilson. Wilson, the most recent of those, was forty years ago. And that was after unexpected election victories. May has only an unexpected near-defeat under her belt."
 
sminicooper said:
More political cr@p for those interested !

Full source here: https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2017-08-27/u-k-newspaper-guesses-on-may-s-future

"After this year’s election disaster, May won’t be allowed to fight another contest. She’ll go when the Tories feel they can manage another contest, and the election that would likely follow, when keeping her is judged to be more painful than losing her, or when a successor correctly judges they have the best chance of supplanting her.

For those who want to argue which prime ministers did best at choosing their departure dates, the Tory lawmaker and journalist Danny Finkelstein suggests: Pitt the Elder, the Earl of Derby, the Marquess of Salisbury, Ramsay Macdonald, Stanley Baldwin, Winston Churchill and Harold Wilson. Wilson, the most recent of those, was forty years ago. And that was after unexpected election victories. May has only an unexpected near-defeat under her belt."
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I think that she wants to go down in history as being the .......? I'll tell you what she is remembered for in ten years time. Taking cv out of Europe is as good an achievement as any, though, even if she does nothing else.
 
Of course we have our very own Trump clone in Boris ?
But not my choice.
The Cons should be training up a replacement. Their Cabinet members have a nasty habit of sacking their leaders.
But then Labour has no up and coming stars that I have heard of. Blair is jumping up and down in the wings for a comeback.
 
Pat494 said:
I think it would be an obvious prediction that soon submarines will be obsolete from smart autonomous drone hunter killer subs that can be dropped by air anywhere.

Therefore Mrs. Poodle's £200 billion investment in 4 Trident subs will be obsolete and a complete waste of money.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/sublime-submarines-the-future-of-sea-warfare/ar-AAqOsiI
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So do we scrap our current technology and invest in the futuristic dreams of young, imaginative engineers? When they can show it works - by all means. A bit dodgy to throw off our present suit of armour just yet, I would have thought.

PS - remember Defence Minister Duncan-Sandys "end of the manned aircraft" policy in the late 1950s? He was about 50 years too early also!
 
sminicooper said:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...d-rumours-pm-will-resign-before-a3623431.html

Theresa May has indicated she will fight the next general election as she insisted: “I’m not a quitter.”

Not going quietly then? This woman just does NOT get it. They all like the power don't they? :rolleyes:
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Every picture I see of TM portrays her as awkward and clumsy. Also, she has a knack of not speaking when she needs to, or rising to the occasion. But even worse, she sometimes misses the point completely.

Tbh, I don't think she will have any say so in her departure, so her words are a bit meaningless.

There is growing support for the Moggster to stand. I've been following the betting odds for weeks now. He's nicely placed, about 3rd or 4th fav. Tories never elect favorites as leader, so that rules out Boris, Hammond and Davis.

Taken from the article.

Since Parliament has been in recess, this summer has seen suggestions that backbencher Jacob Rees-Mogg may be placed to take the helm.

So he needs a stalking horse to challenge the leader, as challenging directly would lead to failure.
 
counter_violent said:
Every picture I see of TM portrays her as awkward and clumsy. Also, she has a knack of not speaking when she needs to, or rising to the occasion. But even worse, she sometimes misses the point completely.

Tbh, I don't think she will have any say so in her departure, so her words are a bit meaningless.

There is growing support for the Moggster to stand. I've been following the betting odds for weeks now. He's nicely placed, about 3rd or 4th fav. Tories never elect favorites as leader, so that rules out Boris, Hammond and Davis.

Taken from the article.

Since Parliament has been in recess, this summer has seen suggestions that backbencher Jacob Rees-Mogg may be placed to take the helm.

So he needs a stalking horse to challenge the leader, as challenging directly would lead to failure.
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Mogg is pure class, top man.
 
Pat494 said:
Does he stand for anything notable ?
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Yes – good old fashioned British values!

The Remainers won't like him because he is one of the few guys able to deal with them: he just puts it nice and simply – you're either in or you're out, none of this "let's stay in on a temporary basis until we can persuade the voting idiots that they got it wrong the first time". He's good at dealing with the usual left-wing specious arguments by knowing his facts and stating them clearly. With regard to Brexit he's been accused of wanting his cake and eating it. His response to that was "I like cake and I like eating it."

The political pundits don't rate him because he's never held office but you've only got to look at some of the candidates who have to see the fallacious nature of that argument. He's a very bright guy and incredibly rich and therefore doesn't need to be beholden to anyone – unlike many MPs who are more worried about their pension than their constituents. His father was editor of the Times when it was a decent newspaper before Murdoch got his hands on it so he's always been aware of public life.

He now has a very large following outside the Westminster bubble - 20K+ signatures on Moggmentum list – and seems to appeal to the youngsters, who if they bother to get off their ar$es could have a large influence on the next election.

As somebody has already said – a top guy and in my book, a refreshing alternative but like all politicians you don't know what they're like until they actually get there and by then it's too late.
 
One big yawn at the Tory Conference.
I regret to say Mogg and co can't galvanize any action.
I doubt Mrs Poodle would last to Xmas except there are no creditable contenders. Corbyn is an even worse prospect. Cable seems to think he may be what everyone is waiting for ! But I doubt it his time has long gone.
Some may say Boris but he is a sorta Trump clone.

More houses says May. Well the immigrants have to live somewhere I suppose. Devon and Cornwall have large spaces set aside for the builders to make more money so they should be happy.
 
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