I made that remark mainly in self-defence. I thought it prudent to mention it first in case someone (from another tribe, perhaps) accused me of it.
I made that remark mainly in self-defence. I thought it prudent to mention it first in case someone (from another tribe, perhaps) accused me of it.
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Dont they have UK's Brent oil ?
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Didn't know that the oil production is declining sharply :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_oil
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That's because those who do know do not deem it good propaganda to tell us so. Nevertheless, it is in decline and getting more and more difficult to extract because of the inhospitable conditions.
But, in any case, , Tar, this is a detail. I have nothing against the Scots going independent and I wish them good luck in their choice. However, the man in the street should ask why the country's leaders want to take this path.
As far as Cataluña is concerned, I am suspicious as hell about the leaders' motives. We know about Jordi Pujol but he did not take all that money without associates, I'm convinced of that.
But, in any case, , Tar, this is a detail. I have nothing against the Scots going independent and I wish them good luck in their choice. However, the man in the street should ask why the country's leaders want to take this path.
As far as Cataluña is concerned, I am suspicious as hell about the leaders' motives. We know about Jordi Pujol but he did not take all that money without associates, I'm convinced of that.
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Britain in my view achieved a lot together in the past. Alright not perfect but generally well meaning.
So will the 2 fish undo what Kaiser Bill and Adolf failed to do ? A sad day if they do as Britain helps maintain some decency and standards in international politics. Not just grab for themselves at any cost, like some.
The anti Brits will be cheering them on for a new dark age
So will the 2 fish undo what Kaiser Bill and Adolf failed to do ? A sad day if they do as Britain helps maintain some decency and standards in international politics. Not just grab for themselves at any cost, like some.
The anti Brits will be cheering them on for a new dark age
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I've given my opinion, but that's all it is. In any event, I wish them well.
In today's Yahoo news section, I read that there is likely to be an upheaval in the financial industry if the Scots are not to be allowed to use the pound.
How long after would Independence Day be from the referendum? Cataluña would take until, at least, the next elections because the referendum is just an indication of how the people think about it. Cataluña is different because there is a Constitution involved and Madrid says that a referendum is illegal.
Ours is gioing to be much more interesting!
In today's Yahoo news section, I read that there is likely to be an upheaval in the financial industry if the Scots are not to be allowed to use the pound.
How long after would Independence Day be from the referendum? Cataluña would take until, at least, the next elections because the referendum is just an indication of how the people think about it. Cataluña is different because there is a Constitution involved and Madrid says that a referendum is illegal.
Ours is gioing to be much more interesting!
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A good point. It is just a referendum. Getting from there to a workable state of independence will be no trivial task. The woefully inadequate manifesto for independence has shown just how little thought has been given to the minutiae upon which all successes depend.
Plus I can't help thinking it simply isn't possibly legally to declare independence - it has to be granted. Anyone asked the Queen her opinion?
Remember Rhodesia and its UDI in 1965. Was never recognised by any sate or the UN itself. It was only in 1980 that Britain agreed to grant what was by then Zimbabwe independence after majority rule was enacted. A situation diametrically opposed to that which Ian Smith had sought UDI for in the first place.
Be careful what you wish for Scotland.
Plus I can't help thinking it simply isn't possibly legally to declare independence - it has to be granted. Anyone asked the Queen her opinion?
Remember Rhodesia and its UDI in 1965. Was never recognised by any sate or the UN itself. It was only in 1980 that Britain agreed to grant what was by then Zimbabwe independence after majority rule was enacted. A situation diametrically opposed to that which Ian Smith had sought UDI for in the first place.
Be careful what you wish for Scotland.
I believe that unlike Spain and its Autonomic Regions, which signed a written Constitution, Scotland and England was a "marriage of convenience". They could separate as easily as they came together. That's why the English don't oppose it. They can't.
I'm sure that the Monarchy doesn't like the idea any more than the Spanish monarchy does but, at least, te Spanish king has a signed bit of paper in the safe!
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exactly............the Scottish parties that seek independence will do very very nicely thankyou.........including all the salaries being paid for by us during the process ..
whatever they do lets get on with it and stop wasting taxpayers money
Sadly, I think that you have hit the nail on the head. If it isn't true, at least, those who would lead us into independence should be investigated thoroughly an that does not happen.
The unions, with their voting power, were the only power that the socialists had. My father, a London busdriver, in the 50s-60s, told me that, when a garage came out on strike, there was, barely, a dozen men at the meeting and they voted the whole garage out. The majority of working men cannot be bothered to vote. If that is not the case, why is the Labour Party not in government all the time?
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Ehemmm Mrs T changed the laws on strike action, closed shop and balloting rules.
As it happens this is one of the only two good things that she did imho.
Bless her cotton socks.
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Well the UK class structure has changed totally in the last 30 years and there are very few what would be called "Traditional Working Class" left in my view and even if it hadn't changed why presume that working class would automatically vote for Labour ?
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Ehemmm Mrs T changed the laws on strike action, closed shop and balloting rules.
As it happens this is one of the only two good things that she did imho.
Bless her cotton socks.
And the other? ...........
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