LloydH....It tells me that you are probably right that this is JJ's propaganda machine. I too noticed a bunch of new "like the SOT" were flocking in (all trade2win members in November) which I don't believe is a coincidence. I guess I was too harsh on you guys and I apologize. There was also an incident last week which made me revise my position. JJ had invited me to a one week trial (his suggestion) when I noticed that the brand new software (he calls it pattern scanner) he claims he had developed in countless hours of hard work was actually the MT Predictor software. I asked him in an e-mail but he did not reply. So I published my observation in this thread. He is obviously a frequent visitor of this thread because I received immediately a very nasty and abusive e-mail. While still maintaining that this was a different software (how childish when one was already caught lying) he stated that I was a trouble maker and ..."I feel sad for you and your miserable existence on this planet...". Anger management skills like that make me believe that anybody who says anything he does not like just gets "fired" regardless of having a membership or not. And he preys on Newbies who have no knowledge. To set the record straight, MT Predictor has confirmed that they licensed their software to SOT. To serve them justice, I want to mention it is a great software for order placement and keep losses at a minimum. Instead of purchasing a license from JJ who doesn't know how to use it anyway, an interested trader better goes directly to the MT Predictor website as they also do a great job educating the users of their program. This incident tells me a lot about JJ's character and traders shall be warned.