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"Chi è 'sto stronzo?"
Ouch... tough practice today at work.
First I met someone in the hallway who didn't greet me. I said "hi" and he ignored me. And that was a tough one. Or rather, good practice for my "learn to deal with frustration" exercises.
Then, two hours later, as I was leaving the bank and going home, and this can only happen in Rome, I crossed three colleagues, whom I didn't know, and one of them whispered to the others "Chi è 'sto stronzo?", which is more or less "who is this dick?" or "who is this asshole?".
Yeah, I am paranoid, so maybe I imagined it, but, being in Rome, I wouldn't be surprised. People in Rome have unparalleled thoughtlessness. I just didn't know this reached... this went as far as people with college degrees. But it does, and I did suspect it all along. It's just that the Romans are a bit... quite a bit more rude than the average Italian, who already sucks anyway.
Whichever it is, that he whispered it or I imagined it, just thinking that I got insulted so heavily is great practice in itself, with accepting that things won't always go my way, and people won't always behave according to my wishes / expectations.
Remember the fact that I got started with this work, because I cannot accept losses and blow out my account as a consequence. And then I realized that I am this way in every field of my life, essentially a "control freak".
In the meanwhile, I've added this incident to what's becoming a very detailed workbook, that now includes:
1) symptoms of stress, post #4261
2) causes of stress, post #4278
3) treatment / prevention of stress - this post
Here is the updated excel file:
View attachment stress_causes-symptoms-cures.xls
Regarding the "treatment / prevention" I would say these are the main points I want to remember:
1. Accept reality and that things / people around will not always behave according to your wishes / expectations
2. change reality as much as possible according to your wishes
3. when you can't change it, avoid as much as possible the people /situation causing you stress
4. Remember that, once you have assessed reality (how things / people work), you will not benefit from thinking about the incident any further
5. Each stressful incident provides good practice for controlling your emotions and your reaction to stressful situations
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The next revolutionary step, and the way of the future for me, is to see practical examples where putting into practice acceptance of losses leads to better outcomes than being angry about them.
I already have two examples of this:
In trading, once a loss is incurred, you feel urge to 1) trade again in the same long / short direction or 2) not close the position:
if you avoid this, the following trades are more likely to be successful
If you accept failure, you're more likely to be successful after it.
If the child neighbor wakes you up, you would tend to stay up, while feeling the urge to kill him
If you avoid this, and accept your limits/losses (that you can't kill him, and that he has hurt you and will keep hurting you), you are more likely to go back to sleep
This is all wonderful. I can't believe I hadn't realized this before. This is simple math, as clear as math, how useful it is to not have feelings.
I guess a life of frustration wasn't enough to open my eyes. Once again, trading has helped me to do the math, and open my eyes, and see what is profitable not just in trading but also in life.
...and sure enough, as i often do, I have invented something that had already been studied by someone else and which they call "desensitization":
http://www.guidetopsychology.com/sysden.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desensitization_(psychology)
http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtu...avior/desensitization-and-counterconditioning
To put it succinctly all traders should follow a boot camp that involves desensitization as far as losses. That should be a prerequisite for trading.
Now I've come to this on my own, and realized that I also can benefit from it in my life. I am not sure if I will have to become a person without any feelings whatsoever or if I can limit this to the areas where it is useful, that is to say in hostile environments, like at work, and while trading. Of course, I would not need this with my relatives, at least most of my relatives.
I think I might be able to keep my emotions as far as non-hostile environments. And I am not even saying I have to become "mean" in hostile environment, but simply a person who doesn't get hurt by things not going his way, as I've been so far.
--- more on desensitization ---
This is not exactly what I expected it to be, because it is associated with a treatment that I wasn't thinking of, from what I have read so far, and yet some argue that that part of the treatment is useless and that the only thing needed is "exposure to the feared object":
http://www.guidetopsychology.com/sysden.htm
More interesting quotes from the same link:
1) stoploss being triggered, which actually, more often than not, saves our account
2) losing at chess or some other board game
3) some stranger looking at us in the street
4) someone contradicting us...
5) a dog barking, far away from us
All situations that bothered me very much until now, and yet all without permanent damage to me.
More quotes:
1) symptoms of stress, post #4261
2) causes of stress, post #4278
3) treatment / prevention of stress - this post
http://www.guidetopsychology.com/pmr.htm
http://www.guidetopsychology.com/autogen.htm
Ouch... tough practice today at work.
First I met someone in the hallway who didn't greet me. I said "hi" and he ignored me. And that was a tough one. Or rather, good practice for my "learn to deal with frustration" exercises.
Then, two hours later, as I was leaving the bank and going home, and this can only happen in Rome, I crossed three colleagues, whom I didn't know, and one of them whispered to the others "Chi è 'sto stronzo?", which is more or less "who is this dick?" or "who is this asshole?".
Yeah, I am paranoid, so maybe I imagined it, but, being in Rome, I wouldn't be surprised. People in Rome have unparalleled thoughtlessness. I just didn't know this reached... this went as far as people with college degrees. But it does, and I did suspect it all along. It's just that the Romans are a bit... quite a bit more rude than the average Italian, who already sucks anyway.
Whichever it is, that he whispered it or I imagined it, just thinking that I got insulted so heavily is great practice in itself, with accepting that things won't always go my way, and people won't always behave according to my wishes / expectations.
Remember the fact that I got started with this work, because I cannot accept losses and blow out my account as a consequence. And then I realized that I am this way in every field of my life, essentially a "control freak".
In the meanwhile, I've added this incident to what's becoming a very detailed workbook, that now includes:
1) symptoms of stress, post #4261
2) causes of stress, post #4278
3) treatment / prevention of stress - this post
Here is the updated excel file:
View attachment stress_causes-symptoms-cures.xls
Regarding the "treatment / prevention" I would say these are the main points I want to remember:
1. Accept reality and that things / people around will not always behave according to your wishes / expectations
2. change reality as much as possible according to your wishes
3. when you can't change it, avoid as much as possible the people /situation causing you stress
4. Remember that, once you have assessed reality (how things / people work), you will not benefit from thinking about the incident any further
5. Each stressful incident provides good practice for controlling your emotions and your reaction to stressful situations
---
The next revolutionary step, and the way of the future for me, is to see practical examples where putting into practice acceptance of losses leads to better outcomes than being angry about them.
I already have two examples of this:
In trading, once a loss is incurred, you feel urge to 1) trade again in the same long / short direction or 2) not close the position:
if you avoid this, the following trades are more likely to be successful
If you accept failure, you're more likely to be successful after it.
If the child neighbor wakes you up, you would tend to stay up, while feeling the urge to kill him
If you avoid this, and accept your limits/losses (that you can't kill him, and that he has hurt you and will keep hurting you), you are more likely to go back to sleep
This is all wonderful. I can't believe I hadn't realized this before. This is simple math, as clear as math, how useful it is to not have feelings.
I guess a life of frustration wasn't enough to open my eyes. Once again, trading has helped me to do the math, and open my eyes, and see what is profitable not just in trading but also in life.
...and sure enough, as i often do, I have invented something that had already been studied by someone else and which they call "desensitization":
http://www.guidetopsychology.com/sysden.htm
ONE METHOD that has been consistently proven to be effective in the treatment of anxiety and phobias is systematic desensitization. In this procedure, events which cause anxiety are recalled in imagination, and then a relaxation technique is used to dissipate the anxiety. With sufficient repetition through practice, the imagined event loses its anxiety-provoking power. At the end of training, when you actually face the real event, you will find that it too, just like the imagined event, has lost its power to make you anxious.
Originally developed to be administered by a psychotherapist, systematic desensitization has been shown to be effective when self-administered as well, and your greatest gains will come through your own regular practice. The examples utilized here will be for desensitizing yourself to Fear of Flying; you can, however, alter the examples to suit any type of anxiety.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desensitization_(psychology)
http://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtu...avior/desensitization-and-counterconditioning
Systematic desensitization and counterconditioning are two common treatments for fears, anxiety, phobias and aggression—basically any behavior problem that involves arousal or emotional reaction. When the problem is rooted in how a dog or cat feels about a particular thing, it isn’t enough to just teach him a different behavior—like sit instead of lunge and growl. What’s most effective is treatment that will change the way he feels about something. This treatment will eliminate the underlying reason for the behavior problem in the first place.
To put it succinctly all traders should follow a boot camp that involves desensitization as far as losses. That should be a prerequisite for trading.
Now I've come to this on my own, and realized that I also can benefit from it in my life. I am not sure if I will have to become a person without any feelings whatsoever or if I can limit this to the areas where it is useful, that is to say in hostile environments, like at work, and while trading. Of course, I would not need this with my relatives, at least most of my relatives.
I think I might be able to keep my emotions as far as non-hostile environments. And I am not even saying I have to become "mean" in hostile environment, but simply a person who doesn't get hurt by things not going his way, as I've been so far.
--- more on desensitization ---
This is not exactly what I expected it to be, because it is associated with a treatment that I wasn't thinking of, from what I have read so far, and yet some argue that that part of the treatment is useless and that the only thing needed is "exposure to the feared object":
http://www.guidetopsychology.com/sysden.htm
Although his theoretical assumptions about the role of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems in extinguishing anxiety were actually erroneous,[2] his Systematic Desensitization program, as a practical application of his theories, proved to be highly successful. In fact, it revolutionized the treatment of neurotic anxiety.
Many researchers have since concluded that “exposure” to the feared object or situation is the critical factor in treatment. Systematic desensitization, some say, merely helps individuals expose themselves to feared situations.[3]
So, in plain language, regardless of why it works, systematic desensitization does work.
More interesting quotes from the same link:
Just as I said in my previous posts: there is no need, and actually it is not good to cure our frustration / fear / anger related to situations that can cause us permanent damage, but only that from situations that do not cause us permanent damage, such as these clear examples:• The effectiveness of systematic desensitization does not appear to depend on the intensity of your anxiety, the duration of your anxiety, or on whether the anxiety was acquired suddenly or gradually.[6]
• Some evidence suggests that systematic desensitization may not be as effective in treating anxieties that could have an underlying survival component—such as fear of the dark, fear of heights, or fear of dangerous animals—as in treating phobias that have been acquired from personal experience.[7]
1) stoploss being triggered, which actually, more often than not, saves our account
2) losing at chess or some other board game
3) some stranger looking at us in the street
4) someone contradicting us...
5) a dog barking, far away from us
All situations that bothered me very much until now, and yet all without permanent damage to me.
More quotes:
Wow, this is exactly what I have done. Remember my hierarchy of symptoms for different levels of stress? That was the first idea I came up with, and I ranked them all according to level of anxiety:There are three steps in the self-administered systematic desensitization procedure:
1. Relaxation;
2. Constructing an anxiety hierarchy;
3. Pairing relaxation with the situations described in your anxiety hierarchy.
1) symptoms of stress, post #4261
2) causes of stress, post #4278
3) treatment / prevention of stress - this post
The following systematic desensitization procedures will assume that you have become familiar and proficient with some form of relaxation technique. This could be Progressive Muscle Relaxation, Autogenics, or any other method of inducing a deeply relaxed state of mind. All that matters is that you choose a method of relaxation that is most comfortable for you.
http://www.guidetopsychology.com/pmr.htm
wow!The PMR procedure teaches you to relax your muscles through a two-step process. First you deliberately apply tension to certain muscle groups, and then you stop the tension and turn your attention to noticing how the muscles relax as the tension flows away.
Through repetitive practice you quickly learn to recognize—and distinguish—the associated feelings of a tensed muscle and a completely relaxed muscle. With this simple knowledge, you can then induce physical muscular relaxation at the first signs of the tension that accompanies anxiety. And with physical relaxation comes mental calmness—in any situation.
awesomeDeep Muscle Relaxation
Once you have learned PMR and are familiar with the feeling of muscle relaxation, you can then induce relaxation without even bothering with the tension-relaxation process. All you need to do is use your imagination to think of and then relax the various muscle groups using your cue word(s). Usually this is done by starting at the top of your head and then working down through your body, as if relaxation were being poured over your head and flowing down over all of your body. This process is called Deep Muscle Relaxation.
Then, anywhere, anytime, you can simply perform a quick “body scan” to recognize where in your body you might be holding muscle tension and then, using imagery and your cue word/phrase, you can let it go.
http://www.guidetopsychology.com/autogen.htm
ALTHOUGH one of the most simple and easily learned techniques for relaxation is Progressive Muscle Relaxation (PMR), autogenics, while requiring considerable time and discipline to learn, has more far-reaching benefits than simple muscle relaxation. Composed of auto- (from the Greek autos, self) and -genous (a suffix meaning produced by, and reflecting the word genesis, creation), the word was chosen by Johannes Schultz,[1,2] a German doctor, to describe his original discovery first published in 1932. Today, autogenics training [3] teaches you to self-produce a feeling of warmth and heaviness throughout your body, thereby experiencing a profound state of physical relaxation, bodily health, and mental peace.
Once you become proficient at it, you can use autogenics to overcome addictions (such as smoking or gambling), change unwanted behaviors (such as nail biting), resolve phobias (such as fear of flying), and mitigate symptoms of physical ailments.[4] If you tend to be a nervous or anxious person, autogenics can help you find an inner place of calmness and emotional peace. If you are a highly sensitive person, with autogenics you can learn to cope with environmental stimulation by dismissing it from your attention rather than feel overwhelmed by it. In fact, you can use autogenics to help overcome just about any psychological or physiological problem; the results will vary according to the severity of the problem and according to your own discipline and confidence.
To maintain your proficiency, practice at least once a day. Some persons prefer going to sleep this way. If you maintain your practice faithfully, you will find that by using only one or two cycles of the final routine you can achieve a pleasant and calm autogenic state under almost any circumstances.
But make no mistake: It takes long, hard practice to master the exercises, and they take you only as far as your own intelligence and desire will allow.
Yeah, I completely understand.In general, changing unwanted behavior involves three basic steps:
1. To know how ugly the behavior is and how much damage it causes to yourself and to others.
2. To know the damage caused by the behavior.
3. To know the benefits of new and different behavior.
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