Mastery Trading Academy .. swindle

[kingtrader7]

Please post the link so i can see this victim

 

[LaserTrader]

Training Traders was a few years back and was only around a few years, I attended one of their courses which was run by Mike Douglas, Mike is the real deal i can confirm that i am now a full time trader using his system

Training Traders are still around, actually they have cleaned up their act by getting rid of some people (Mike Douglas, Matt travis, Les Johnston and Janet Mcanuff).

So you are now a successful full time trader after doing the Training Traders course that Mike Douglas presented. I thought you said it was due to the MTA course ???

Just trying to get back on topic .. I can understand why MTA Live want to drag this thread off topic and distract with childish insults, especially when I exposed their deception so they had to quickly register the company. Wonder how they operated before that. I know I will ask the tax man what to do about undeclared earning

BTW if Mike Douglas is such a great trader oh and Matt Travis, why pull all of these cheap tricks to get people to pay £1500 for a course.

 

[veryamused]

African Angel and Laser Trader Both of you seem to be happy if others jump on the bandwagon and criticize trainers and educators, but the minute someone comes on and supports them because they have had a different experience to you suddenly they must work for the organisation in question, you all make me laugh, because some of you are too thick to put into practice what you have been taught it's always someone elses fault.
Trading is simple and psychology, if you're disciplined and not greedy, do not try to hit big every time you trade you can make consistent profit like I do, I currently make 4% on my account every day and Mike Douglas taught me, he replies to all my emails immediately for which I am grateful, thats why I speak highly of him African Angel and Laser Trader not because I work for them but I bet you both work for Greg Secker.

Rockiller.
Fine words but no wonder readers appear to be more than a little sceptical about the the veracity of what you say and claim. I have no comment to make about the others you have a go at but as with Mr Travis, your words and claims have no worth without evidence. You claim to make 4% on your account everyday. Well please show everyone the evidence.
I doubled my account in 4 weeks. Not a small account either - so there.
What you write here in support of Matt Travis and Mike Douglas has no credibility without evidence. So lets see it then!!!
Or can you not show us?? That would be strange would it not???

 

[MrLeverage]

My Brother-in-law used to work at IG. He used to manage "premier clients" i.e. the ones with massive accounts and actually knew what they were doing.

The best would make consistent returns, year-on-year, of about 35% max, so he says. They performed extra well as they would be out of the market or have limited exposure when things got rough. An option not available to banks / funds etc.

Yet here we have "Rockkiller", who we should all bow down to. We are truly in the presence of probably the world's best traders. 4% per day. Out-performing the best retail traders in the country by several hundred times!

Wow... How believable.

 

[Mattjs]

My Brother-in-law used to work at IG. He used to manage "premier clients" i.e. the ones with massive accounts and actually knew what they were doing.

The best would make consistent returns, year-on-year, of about 35% max, so he says. They performed extra well as they would be out of the market or have limited exposure when things got rough. An option not available to banks / funds etc.

Yet here we have "Rockkiller", who we should all bow down to. We are truly in the presence of probably the world's best traders. 4% per day. Out-performing the best retail traders in the country by several hundred times!

Wow... How believable.

But VeryAmused stated he made 100% in a matter of weeks? This is getting confusing....i thought I've seen LaserTrader and yourself say that's very improbable? Any evidence of this? :?:

 

[veryamused]

But VeryAmused stated he made 100% in a matter of weeks? This is getting confusing....i thought I've seen LaserTrader and yourself say that's very improbable? Any evidence of this? :?:

The point is my friend , that both you and Matt Travis make claims of making money every day. To quote yourself, "find myself executing successful trades daily and consistently via Forex and binary options."
You do not provide any evidence of this.
Matt Travis has posted all over the internet that he makes 3% to 5% everyday - again without a shred of evidence!!!

A pair of a kind, methinks.

If you do then please show the world the evidence. Without that its totally bull****.
I would recommend that anyone thinking on paying good money to go on the course asks for clear evidence of such claims. If you could show the evidence then why are you / they not charging a lot more for the course???

Time to put up or shut up. Where is the evidence??? Simples as they say!

 

[MrLeverage]

But VeryAmused stated he made 100% in a matter of weeks? This is getting confusing....i thought I've seen LaserTrader and yourself say that's very improbable? Any evidence of this? :?:

If you give 100 people a £1000 spread betting and tell them to take a £20 PP position on the DJIA. Some from that sample will take a 50 point move and double their account. Anyone can drop on one good move, combined with stupid levels of risk and make large % returns.

The point is this isn't sustainable. If there were people able to make those % returns on a daily basis, they'd be the most valuable traders in the world. Primarily because they outperform every bank and fund by a mile.

The evidence is there; if the best institutions with the best traders, analysts, risk managers, culture, information, equipment etc can't make a fraction compared to these clowns, what do you think is more likely:

- That they are trading geniuses?
- That they are full of ****?

 

[LaserTrader]

Click on Pic to enlarge.

What happened, did they get lost on the golf course or turn into alchoholics ?
Why no more results?

Just to make a point that I am sure is obvious (anyone can type any kind of results they like):

Laser Traders elite traders 19/09/2014 results for todays trading:
John Smith 150 pips £1,500
George Lucas 120 pips £2,400
Mike Dodgey Douglas 10 pips £10
Muppet Matt Travis -120 pips £+5,000

 

[LaserTrader]

I have a prediction.

MTA are trying to distract from their lies, fakes and tricks by saying they will post proof of their 3-5% every day. I predict they will show 1 or 2 people out of a group of 5 or more making a profit each day (well maybe not every day). That basically relates to 1 winning day 5 loosing days on average.
I further predict some cheap tricks, perhaps they will simply type the results themselves or show only part of screens or accounts statements.

There is always the chance they will forget to post the videos and accounts or maybe claim its in their members area on their webpage so we cant see without joining.

 

[Forexmospherian]

If you give 100 people a £1000 spread betting and tell them to take a £20 PP position on the DJIA. Some from that sample will take a 50 point move and double their account. Anyone can drop on one good move, combined with stupid levels of risk and make large % returns.

The point is this isn't sustainable. If there were people able to make those % returns on a daily basis, they'd be the most valuable traders in the world. Primarily because they outperform every bank and fund by a mile.

The evidence is there; if the best institutions with the best traders, analysts, risk managers, culture, information, equipment etc can't make a fraction compared to these clowns, what do you think is more likely:

- That they are trading geniuses?
- That they are full of ****?

Sorry you have got it wrong

I can and have made over 1000% increase in my capital using a £100 account within a month.

I have known many traders make 5000% increase in less than 6 weeks with real live money - but of course all with high risk and on low capital amounts

There is no way you would it on a multi million capital account - commercial / institution trading is totally different to retail trading with small accounts and big leverage.

So many traders fail to understand this.

For example a retailer with an account of say $10k might use 3% stake size - - that could be 10 or 15 times the % stake used by a bank with multi millions and a strict risk policy

So if the Bank makes say 60% for per annum - that is the same as a retailer making 600 or 1000%per annum return

Furthermore you would not be able to scale up from say using one lot per pip to say 500 or 1000 lots using the same methods - simply because you would not get your trade on within seconds - it could take 15 to 30 mins or even an hour

There is so much misinformation about % rates of return on all forums as nobody as really gone on to explain all about the anonmalies of size and that retail trading and commercial trading is like chalk and cheese.

PS - you cannot make fantastic returns by keep compounding as well from a small retail account - well OK less than 2% might be able to but 95%+ would do their head in using their own money before they get to 50 lots

Regards

F

 

[LaserTrader]

Hmmm, are MTA about to pack up and run? The signs are all there, be warned !

Their website is well out of date (still offering courses from a month ago), their PayPal account is stopped, no photo's from recent events.

They have not even cleaned their Facebook accounts, in the past they removed in negative comments quickly, but this one has been up for ages


There is a sign they are trying a different approach, the Matt Travis double your money idea, with only 1 attendee I think that is a big flop.

 

[LaserTrader]

So you do read my posts then Mr Travis


So you saw my post about the Facebook post and removed it, you saw my comment about only 1 person for you Double your income course and suddenly 2 more people are listed, strange the same 2 people have blank Facebook/Twitter accounts (SEO springs to mind and sell to self) :smart:

The one thing you didnt do though is post photos from the Ireland course, the site said 30 people had booked that would be a suitable photo of an MTA Live event, instead of the fake ones.

Oh I have a big box of popcorn ready for the release of your videos tomorrow showing 3-5% every day for every person plus account history.

 

[Rockiller]

I see laser trader has been exposed as Malcolm Steel ex employee of training traders, now it all makes sense, you have axe to grind with veryamused aka pipsplease aka Les Johnston, who you had a huge battle with, as you have seen that he is the Director of mastery trading academy you thought you'd get your revenge.hmmmm! very interesting.

 

[LaserTrader]

I see laser trader has been exposed as Malcolm Steel ex employee of training traders, now it all makes sense, you have axe to grind with veryamused aka pipsplease aka Les Johnston, who you had a huge battle with, as you have seen that he is the Director of mastery trading academy you thought you'd get your revenge.hmmmm! very interesting.

First you guys say I am Les Johnston, now Malcolm Steel, who next ?
Why are you so keen to find out who I am, or make me out to be someone with a grudge? I guess your only defence is a personal attack, which only goes to back up the idea that your guys are operating a SCAM.

I cannot believe how gullible you guys are. Did you really think I would answer your private email plea and sign my own name.



Instead of these stupid antics (lies, fakes, accusation etc) why not post evidence of your trading method working.


This tweet from Matt Travis amuses me.


You are right, you cant beat evidence and I have provided lots of it. See previous posts (links and screenshots below)

Fake publicity photos taken from a rival company:
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...tery-trading-academy-swindle.html#post2350970



Fake employment history
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...tery-trading-academy-swindle.html#post2351388



Trading Demo account, claiming wins despite huge losses
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ry-trading-academy-swindle-2.html#post2357476



Shady history
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ry-trading-academy-swindle-2.html#post2357834



Making out I am Les Johnston and launching personal attack.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-2.html#post2383092


PayPal account down and still down
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-6.html#post2389576


Accusing me of slander. Date in companies house proves MTA Live was not registered as I said and you only registered after I exposed the fact.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-7.html#post2391142


More fake photo. Making out they are from MTA Live when they are copied frmo the web.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-7.html#post2391262


More lies claiming all customers via word of mouth when clearly thre had been a lot of advertising.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-9.html#post2394996

 

[Rockiller]

First you guys say I am Les Johnston, now Malcolm Steel, who next ?
Why are you so keen to find out who I am, or make me out to be someone with a grudge? I guess your only defence is a personal attack, which only goes to back up the idea that your guys are operating a SCAM.

I cannot believe how gullible you guys are. Did you really think I would answer your private email plea and sign my own name.



Instead of these stupid antics (lies, fakes, accusation etc) why not post evidence of your trading method working.


This tweet from Matt Travis amuses me.
View attachment 179858

You are right, you cant beat evidence and I have provided lots of it. See previous posts (links and screenshots below)

Fake publicity photos taken from a rival company:
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...tery-trading-academy-swindle.html#post2350970
View attachment 179860


Fake employment history
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...tery-trading-academy-swindle.html#post2351388
View attachment 179862


Trading Demo account, claiming wins despite huge losses
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ry-trading-academy-swindle-2.html#post2357476
View attachment 179864


Shady history
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ry-trading-academy-swindle-2.html#post2357834
View attachment 179866


Making out I am Les Johnston and launching personal attack.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-2.html#post2383092
View attachment 179868

PayPal account down and still down
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-6.html#post2389576
View attachment 179870

Accusing me of slander. Date in companies house proves MTA Live was not registered as I said and you only registered after I exposed the fact.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-7.html#post2391142
View attachment 179872

More fake photo. Making out they are from MTA Live when they are copied frmo the web.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-7.html#post2391262
View attachment 179874

More lies claiming all customers via word of mouth when clearly thre had been a lot of advertising.
http://www.trade2win.com/boards/edu...ke-douglas-mta-online-scam-9.html#post2394996
View attachment 179876

Laser Trader aka Malcom Seel what's interesting is that you have not commented on any trading strategies or results of your own all you do is act like a fake detective how about a real contribution from you about trading success you spent a large amount of time defending Training Traders and we all know the scandalous history that is still on T2W forums about that, now you are doing to MTA what pipsplease and Digby done to you, the information you posted as documentative evidence was clearly given to you by Mike Baghdady, Don't think you can shift the attention of your identity being exposed you are an ex employee of Training Traders.

 

[Rockiller]

Laser Trader who you really are

 

[Rockiller]

And this

 

[Rockiller]

Need I go on......

 

[Rockiller]

Here you're just a complete and utter hypocrite!

 

[Rockiller]

Even the moderator questioning your motives, seem this is your kind of thing Laser Trader