Keeping Britain British -Identity Crisis.

[wasp]

whats British?

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[FXSCALPER2]

Crap Buddist said something very funny:

"I think the British are concerned with/ fearful that these growing pockets of immigrants are bringing their level of cultural behaviour to the UK and its sub UK standards"

The UK has better culture than immigrants? LOL. Being uncouth, loutish, loud and hooliganism are a British past time. Are people kidding us?!

 

[Crap Buddist]

Crap Buddist said something very funny:

"I think the British are concerned with/ fearful that these growing pockets of immigrants are bringing their level of cultural behaviour to the UK and its sub UK standards"

The UK has better culture than immigrants? LOL. Being uncouth, loutish, loud and hooliganism are a British past time. Are people kidding us?!

yes you are right there FX mate, as soon as I posted it i thought hang on, Britains yob, culture issues etc. Getting drunk and glassing people on the weekend n all that.

You make a fair / valid point.

However i think if this British culture / pack feels threatend then the fighting within its own ranks will turn outward. I think thats normal pack mentality ? They will stop their own social squabbling to stamp out the bigger threat. If there is one perceived etc. which threatens the host nation ie the United Kingdoms way of life too far....

 

[wasp]

How do you 'see' Britain...? What is Britain...? The Britain we are 'trying' to keep....?

Is it Vera Lynn and Winston Churchill? Is it the British bulldog and football? Or is it just part of the world and we should embrace others like those of us who go overseas and like to be welcomed?

Are the ones who come in and collect benefits any worse than the chavs that are already here collecting the same dole money?

Its not as if this doesn't happen elsewhere.... Having spent a year in NZ, the same problem exists but they moan about South Pacific Islanders and Asians.

Its not a British thing and its not a British problem, it happens everywhere.... Unfortunately there are just plenty in the world who want something for nothing.

 

[Crap Buddist]

Its not as if this doesn't happen elsewhere.... Having spent a year in NZ, the same problem exists but they moan about South Pacific Islanders and Asians.

Its not a British thing and its not a British problem, it happens everywhere.... Unfortunately there are just plenty in the world who want something for nothing.

Your right there waspie, Its not just localised and personal to the United Kingdom, any Society pack including the French , I dare say have these similar issues of incomers or settlers .

Thats why I question is it normal for the different cultural packs to mix. Essentially different social packs have different mentalities, priorities, ways of social interaction/living , which is perhaps (long term ,if segregaton grows in numbers) a recipe for disaster for the host nation which initially opened its arms.

Also this is feedback off the street/ shop floor level. And I dare say we can all relate to management & how people in their ivory towers just dont understand it by experience.(or lack off by no direct exposure to the situation)

 

[counter_violent]

yes you are right there FX mate, as soon as I posted it i thought hang on, Britains yob, culture issues etc. Getting drunk and glassing people on the weekend n all that.

Yeah, and that's just the women.

 

[Crap Buddist]

Yeah, and that's just the women.

lol. yeah, scary. Apparently the women are becoming more alpha male than alpha males. They seem to be lapping up the binge drinking and sleeping around more openly, socially normal. Theres not much left to the imagination these days to make romance and courtship special and intimate, to be cherished and life long. Maybe another thread there, for the concerned.

All women need to remember is this. They need to behave like ladies outside of the bedroom and filthy sluts inside it. Simple. I think they have done a Uyouie? I dunno..

 

[wasp]

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[chilltrader]

Actually if you look at the total number of immigrants they are far less than the millions or zillions that some media factions continously tirade. I'm sure there are at least 20 times more "indigenous" people sitting on their fat a*** and claiming benefit - and this is apart from those li'l teenage loudmouths (using pushchairs as tanks in supermarkets) who get pregnant and get up the "housing ladder" (wrong one of course!)

 

[Big Muz]

I would argue that The Great British Identity Crisis has more to do with our shrunken status in the world than Polish labourers. In the course of two generations we went from the most influential and powerful nation on the planet to 'a little island off the coast of France'. That's gotta **** with your sense of self-esteem.
With regard to immigration - firstly, multi-culturalism is a stupid idea, based on the idiotic notion that humans are not adaptable enough to make themselves happy in unfamiliar surroundings and situations. THAT'S WHAT WE BLOODY SPECIALISE IN!! Morons.
Second, I would be amazed if anyone who had the will to travel thousands of miles to get here, often in great danger, would really be all that chuffed to wind up drinking Special Brew in their council flat, watching Jeremy Kyle. Lazy, scrounging ****ers come in all shapes, sizes and colours, and I'd guess that the percentage of these is roughly the same in whichever group.
And finally, hands up anyone who has been 'forced' out of their home or job by immigrants? Yeah, that's right, no-one. The Daily Mail has a lot to answer for.

 

[melmckenzie]

influx of immigrants

I am an immigrant and as an immigrant, I have mold myself into Britishness but I still have in me of Who I am, what am i and where i came from. I have seen the ways of BRITISHNESS and its not nice. Immigrant like me paying taxes after each and every month without claiming any benefit. I have seen the unfairness of the governments benefit system. Example of one, is a sixteen year old girl got pregnant. A girl who havent contributed to society, to the government by taxation--- giving birth gets a free delivery thru NHS, gets a child benefit, gets a council house all expenses is subsididised by the taxpayer and all immigrants who are legally working with work permits. Just to let people know, all immigrants who are with work permits dont get any recourse to public funds like benefits and council benefits. Now isnt that unfair. Taxes are a burden to the people. There is so much taxes being created by the MPs of this country just to get money to subsidised their perks. A SECOND HOME paid by taxes of people and all house repairs are paid by taxes of people. An ordinary peoworking class people cannot get a house of his own. All MPs do is to watch their welfare before the British people. Why cant a peoples truly MP create a LAW that will abolish taxes/expenses that only serves the interest /welfare of MPs and create a Law to abolish the benefits system. The benefit system is a ploy created into law to gain peoples vote by an IDIOT MP desperate for vote. NOw CAN I ASK, WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT BRITAIN? ITS GREATNESS HAS BEEN LONG GONE DURING THE MEDIEVAL TIMES. BRITAIN IS ABOUT TAXES, ITS ABOUT MAKING MONEY. ITS ONLY GREATNESS IS HER HISTORY. BRITAIN HAS LOST ITS IDENTITY WHEN IT HAS JOIN THE E. U. Im leaving Britain and moving to America. Long live the immigrants, for they feed benefit Britain.

 

[Crap Buddist]

nice one melmckenzie. that old child sex for houses policy has always been a point rattling plenty. To be honest it is a good way to get up the list on points.

I think the brits are quite tolerant as for being great? gawd knows our football teams a load of sh!te, cricket ditto.....

your right, that alot of hard working lads/lasses are priced out of affordable housing. I dont think too many people on benefits swing the votes, looks like tories will be coming in again though , least they should ramp the prices back up and put in a proper bubble top !!

Part of being british is paying in the pot to support those in greater need/use their loaf to work the system. What you do is go to the pub get a beer and moan about it

shallombo buddy!

Mind you there is talk about a welfare reform coming, privatising the welfare system , maybe that will work better ?

 

[dick_dastardly]

The danger of this topic is that the BNP and its ilk will come crawling out of the woodwork and capitalise on it by manipulation of the unwashed / uneducated / not too bright UK low-life. Goodness knows how close we came to it in the 1930s with the likes of Mosley etc.

I suppose the clean, well educated bright people of this country are quite content as long as immigrants remain in towns like Bradford or Birmingham.

But some immigrants will work hard and make money and they will not be content with terraced houses in Bradford.

When it's not the sound of church bells but the awful wailing sound emitted from speakers atop a minaret that drifts across the roof tops of some sleepy Cheshire village that has existed for over a thousand years, then we shall see how tolerant are the British.


dd

 

[chilltrader]

Saw that documentary about the tide of immigrants into the UK. Apparently ,it suggested theres a growing wave of unease creeping throughout society and even a couple of generations of immigrant british settlers are even beginning to feel uncomfortable with the amount of inflow,even the immigrant British are worried?

I welcome the variety but sense British people feel like somethings heading in the wrong direction. The more immigrants the less Britain feels like its Britain and British. That sense of being British, its slipping away, being diluted ?

Does anyone else think there is a big problem brewing? I do get the sense that some are thinking this is enough ,its gone too far, taking the p*ss because i think the British people want all immigrants to be British, adopt the spirit, fairness?

Which leads me to, different races, cultures, is it normal to remain seperate? is it peverse to mix and dilute cultures< I mean its not as if religious differences are seen as beautiful difference of individuality.

If each individual accepted their neighbour as an individual then all well and good, but can they ,do they ? Not really ,that still seems the minority thinking, hence why I can see why some are fearful for cultural clashes if the influx continues.

Britain feels like its being invaded again, is that a fair statement ?

In this globalised world thats a very stupid statement. Do you realise how many Brits live outside Britain as well?

In Eunuch Powells time things were different. The world has changed a lot since.
The mixing of races, cultures is inevitable.. nothing perverse (unlike of course for BNP subscribers )

 

[Crap Buddist]

Cheers chill.

Might read a bit extreme but I'm just looking at different races and thinking maybe its normal for the different types of packs to fear the other packs in some sort of ingrained way.

Different cultures will never know each other so all that fear will remain.

Yeah i realise tis a global community and with myself am happy to live/breed with other cultures. BUT thats me, what I am saying or asking, is it normal ? A lot of cultures will not allow interbreeding into others. So the no mix policy is still actively promoted. And a lot of cultures are perhaps not liberal OR maybe think it kinda weird for say a Mongolian to shack up with someone from hemel hempstead.

I would like to think everyone can get a long but it aint happening. Should we force it, force people to get along or allow them to remain seperate, because perhaps thats normal ?

I love the difference.

 

[trendie]

I suppose the clean, well educated bright people of this country are quite content as long as immigrants remain in towns like Bradford or Birmingham.

But some immigrants will work hard and make money and they will not be content with terraced houses in Bradford.

When it's not the sound of church bells but the awful wailing sound emitted from speakers atop a minaret that drifts across the roof tops of some sleepy Cheshire village that has existed for over a thousand years, then we shall see how tolerant are the British.

dd

they will be as tolerant as the villagers whose sunday mornings of worshipping pagan gods (for thousands of years) was upset by the peals of new-fangled middle-eastern Christianity church-bells.

people had been dying for "thousands of years" of cholera and typhoid until vaccines were developed; doesnt mean its a good thing.

 

[chilltrader]

Cheers chill.

Might read a bit extreme but I'm just looking at different races and thinking maybe its normal for the different types of packs to fear the other packs in some sort of ingrained way.

Different cultures will never know each other so all that fear will remain.

Yeah i realise tis a global community and with myself am happy to live/breed with other cultures. BUT thats me, what I am saying or asking, is it normal ? A lot of cultures will not allow interbreeding into others. So the no mix policy is still actively promoted. And a lot of cultures are perhaps not liberal OR maybe think it kinda weird for say a Mongolian to shack up with someone from hemel hempstead.

I would like to think everyone can get a long but it aint happening. Should we force it, force people to get along or allow them to remain seperate, because perhaps thats normal ?

I love the difference.

I understand. I've seen (personally) what happens in communities who do not "allow" to breed with others. There are many cases of diseases both physical and mental, as it "runs in the genes".

Now.. I'm not saying that its a reason for "forcing" inter-breeding.

To be honest any thought of manipulating breeding seems Hitlerian to me!

Its all choice and freedom to marry/ reproduce with the person of your choice regardless of colour, race etc.

If a fat local from Hemel mates with a fit Mongolian I don't see anything wrong in it :cheesy: ...

 

[Crap Buddist]

Yeah and thats a part of it I dont either, but plenty on the planet who will raise an eyebrow.

cheers

 

[JTrader]

Saw that documentary about the tide of immigrants into the UK. Apparently ,it suggested theres a growing wave of unease creeping throughout society and even a couple of generations of immigrant british settlers are even beginning to feel uncomfortable with the amount of inflow,even the immigrant British are worried?

I welcome the variety but sense British people feel like somethings heading in the wrong direction. The more immigrants the less Britain feels like its Britain and British. That sense of being British, its slipping away, being diluted ?

Does anyone else think there is a big problem brewing? I do get the sense that some are thinking this is enough ,its gone too far, taking the p*ss because i think the British people want all immigrants to be British, adopt the spirit, fairness?

Which leads me to, different races, cultures, is it normal to remain seperate? is it peverse to mix and dilute cultures< I mean its not as if religious differences are seen as beautiful difference of individuality.

If each individual accepted their neighbour as an individual then all well and good, but can they ,do they ? Not really ,that still seems the minority thinking, hence why I can see why some are fearful for cultural clashes if the influx continues.

Britain feels like its being invaded again, is that a fair statement ?

Most people i over-hear talking about immigration are basically suggesting that there are far too many foreigners in the UK now.

 

[trendie]

Most people i over-hear talking about immigration are basically suggesting that there are far too many foreigners in the UK now.

you really must stop attending those pointy-hat dinners, JT.

so, whats it like being an immigrant in Greenland?
bloody foreigners. comin' over 'ere. sleepin' wiv our wimmin. eatin' funny foods. send 'em back, I say.