Sticky I'm New To TRADING - Where Do I Start?

Re: Basically yes.

The most important tip you could never get if really want to start trading is PATIENCE, go steady.

I just wanted to comment that fayalack is completely correct in being patient on developing the skill to be a successful trader.

Patience is essential because when you're starting out you don't know what you don't know. And, not knowing what you don't know can get set you back in being a trader and patience can help you avoid all that.


Best of luck and good trading.
 
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I feel there are 3 things you need to make it as a trader:

1. A sound education in the fundamentals of the market you will trade
2. A genuine and honest handle on your unique personal psychology
3. An approach to trading your chosen market based on and tailored to the preceding point

There are many places to learn the above, and these forums are a great place to start. One other thing that you will need to learn ABOUT this learning is to be a bit discriminatory: there's a lot of crap and a lot of dishonesty out there. Keep your antennae up, keep the above three points in mind and good luck!

Erron
 
At the end of the day it all comes down to price, and price is where you need to start. Pick your market, pick your product and start observing the price movements. Start picking out patterns. Count how many times the price behaves in a manner you expect. Count how many times it behaves contrary to your expectation. Create a trading plan based on the probabilities you have observed, accounting for profit targets (exiting with profit) and for cutting losses (exiting with loss). Test your trading plan with market data. The more test trades you do, the more accurate your results will be. Doing five or ten trades tells you nothing. If you are showing a net profit at the end of a sufficient test, you are ready to trade with real money. If you are showing a net loss you need to tweak your method and test again.

You may use other people's methods to get ideas, but ultimately you must create your own method and do your own testing.

Any method you choose must always account for many, many times the market will move against you. Trading is the art of balancing the losses against the wins so that over time you are net positive. The unexpected can and will happen many times. You cannot let such events take big hits on your trading capital. You must take your losses as soon as you realize the price movement is unexpected. On the opposite side, you must identify high-probability winning scenarios and let them run their course - these are the trades that make up your losses and additionally add profit to the table.
 
An opinion regarding where to start:
- decide what you will trade:
- stocks
- futures
- stock options
-futures options,
- ETFS,
- FOREX, etc,

- decide if you will trade full time or part time;

- decide what type of trader you want to be:

- scalping
- swing
- position

- decide which markets will trade - US, UK, etc (you can trade almost any US market without living in US or UK, etc.);

- decide on what exchanges will trade (example: CME/GLOBEX).

- become familiar with the markets you will trade, for example if you decide to trade NQ, learn the contract specifications (symbol, tick value, trading hours, expiration date, last trading day, rollover, etc).

- become familiar with the types of trading orders;

- decide what trading platform you will use, for example the well known Ninja Trader;

- decide what broker will use;

- learn a trading strategy, test it, trade on a demo account and only after that start trading a live account;


- do not depend blindly on a software because most indicators are lagging; the most important are:
- the price and the trend
- support/resistance areas
- chart patterns and formations

- avoid low volume markets or markets with daily limits;

- forget the old and wrong idea that price and time must be together on a chat because what we trade is THE PRICE, use Mean Ranko or Haiken Ashi charts to eliminate some of the market noise, just test for yourself to see the difference;

- must have a trading plan which will include risk management and trade management

Have a successful trading.
 
A good place to start might be Edwards and Magee. Probably not the kind of thing you want to do, but well worth reading nonetheless.
 
Is making up your own strategy of trading more important than adopting one?
Making your own strategy would entail reading and learning from the established methods and strategies. So essentially, you will be adopting and absorbing a portion of one or more strategies here and there.
 
Making your own strategy would entail reading and learning from the established methods and strategies. So essentially, you will be adopting and absorbing a portion of one or more strategies here and there.

OK Great. I came across a couple strategies that are rewiring the way I trade. I didn't know if successful traders did that. Maybe I'm over-thinking it, as long as I become profitable I guess.
 
After you pick a market to trade then I advise you get active on Twitter, use a piece of software called Tweet Deck you can get it free if you search on Google. Reason Twitter is handy for new traders is that you can follow specific people who are doing the same things as yourself. For instance, if you a trading the Bund follow Bund traders, if you trade FX follow FX traders, you will see them tweet throughout the day what they are looking at and it will help you as you are watching the markets simultaneously.....you can also interact with them in a FAST manner unlike the forums.

Forums are good to an extent, you can look through these after the market closes and get links/leads to do further research but stopping short of having someone sit next to you as you trade Twitter is an excellent tool I think if you are just getting into trading and not working at a prop firm.

We are a prop firm in London and we just started a little twitter feed, feel free to follow us, we tweet throughout the day on everything and anything market related. If you click our followers/following tab you will get a good list of like minded traders that you guys can then start following and see what they are looking at during the trading day which should definitely help you get started and guide you on the correct path.

Needless to say doing the usual reading books/researching is an obvious answer but as for help during market hours twitter is the way forward for new guys.

@Futex_Live
 
After you pick a market to trade then I advise you get active on Twitter, use a piece of software called Tweet Deck you can get it free if you search on Google. Reason Twitter is handy for new traders is that you can follow specific people who are doing the same things as yourself. For instance, if you a trading the Bund follow Bund traders, if you trade FX follow FX traders, you will see them tweet throughout the day what they are looking at and it will help you as you are watching the markets simultaneously.....you can also interact with them in a FAST manner unlike the forums.

Forums are good to an extent, you can look through these after the market closes and get links/leads to do further research but stopping short of having someone sit next to you as you trade Twitter is an excellent tool I think if you are just getting into trading and not working at a prop firm.

We are a prop firm in London and we just started a little twitter feed, feel free to follow us, we tweet throughout the day on everything and anything market related. If you click our followers/following tab you will get a good list of like minded traders that you guys can then start following and see what they are looking at during the trading day which should definitely help you get started and guide you on the correct path.

Needless to say doing the usual reading books/researching is an obvious answer but as for help during market hours twitter is the way forward for new guys.

@Futex_Live

or not......:cool:
 
I am unsure of how to answer this question, but I know people who are very successful making 300% - 400% in this business. I am not lying they do exist it has to do with reading level II bid and ask orders and reading volume. If I say trading is permitted although you have to become a tactician otherwise its leaving to chance. I love this business but nature controls my game, so I have to use the source of EL 55 now. I can teach you how to use volume on the technical side but you will still need to read the fundamentals. The fundamentals are what I call the signs of the times, but remember that you should fear when others hope and vice versa.
 
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That's good for us.

To be honest I know very little about trading myself but I will try to point out some helpful things, I have always quite liked the idea of having a go, maybe open an account, put a small amount of money on it and see what happens. I do know that if you wanted to deal in shares then you would have to put down the full amount/cost but if you used CFDs then you only need to put down a percentage of the amount/cost plus you don’t have to pay any stamp duty. I know that a couple of my friends have used a company, they have tutorials on YouTube which are quite helpful, and everything that is discussed is explained clearly and may help give you a better idea of where to start.
 
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i recommend open fx account, minimum as low as $200. dont play with stocks or cfd.. capital requirement too high you will easily get hurt, unless you have plenty of spare cash
 
The forex is the largest and most liquid market. On entering such honorary markets, you quickly get your bladder full (anxious). But this is not what you need. The market is very busting- but we must admit it could be morally unkempt so you need to be very cautious. I suggest you start with mini account and demos as well so that you understand the countenance of the market better. When choosing broker, review closely his spreads and commissions, his leverages, trading platform, software in use, payment means, customer support etc. Most especially, try investigate seriously his accountability as the forex could be funny as even regulated brokers can threaten your positions- take for example the popular business Trial Group of Morgan & Morgan, P.A. filing a class action lawsuit today against the honorable Forex Capital Markets, LLC (FXCM) (NYSE:FXCM) alleging fraud and racketeering. You could be safe and rich even with a broker not regulated- IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO CALCULATED CAUTION.

Regulation does not mean purer than the driven snow.
It means you know where the broker actually is,
you know they are less likely (but not immune from going bust).
They are less likely to disappear with your money or make it difficult to withdraw.
Thats it, still no guarantee, but safer than no regulation.
Wearing a seat belt is no guarantee you won't crash, it just reduces
the risk to you should that happen - same with regulation.

Not that I'm writing this for your benefit, its pretty clear you are
a troll, spammer in waiting or outright tard :LOL:
 
Very good advice, is though it is necessary to have a good time to read everything calmly and interpret each tip. Merchants experience is reflected in the good results.

Hi,how to trade simple, when the market rises go long.When the market falls go short.If the markets is consolidating do nothing don,t trade.There you go simple ,a bit like most of the simpltons on this forum,most of whom do not trade or are failed traders.
Margaret,go and learn the basics of the forex market and i mean the basics you need to have an understanding of that first,(belive me this is a long road)However you need an understanding of the forex market what makes it?How does price move? Why does price move? what is liquidity? what is supply and demand?What is Depth of market? how do you see who is trading what?Where are the orders.Which currency is strong this morning which is week.Fundementles and Tech anay.Thats for starters then comes experiance, and a feel for your chosen crosses.A broker .Well an ECN one that has depth of market.Or trade Futures.So Margaret a lot to learn and although the start of this post is true and simple ,oh how it is not that simple.A good website for you ,writen by a women for women primarily but of course us males use it .She,s a trader and an educator her name is Anna and her webbsite (which is extensive to say the least) is called Making Bread.Good Luck Margaret.Regards Mike.P.S if you want any advice please ask,and just to clarify there are some good traders on t2w better than i will ever be find out who they are and never be afraid to ask we all started at the begining,and the road never ends.When you have opened an account Margaret you can ask about Money Management and how it works its the MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF TRADING.Without it you are sunk and finished before you startMike
 
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Hi Everybody

Im Li Li and Im new to this site and and also new share trader/investor. Just wanted to say hello. Got to get use to this site first.
 
Hi

Im still new. I have been reading books about technical indicators and looking for scanning software which are not expensive or free for ASX Australia market. For eg, I could add in ADX indicator etc. Play around the indicator. Can somebody help me and advise me which software is good for ASX Australia market.
Thanks.
 
Hi

Im still new. I have been reading books about technical indicators and looking for scanning software which are not expensive or free for ASX Australia market. For eg, I could add in ADX indicator etc. Play around the indicator. Can somebody help me and advise me which software is good for ASX Australia market.
Thanks.
Hi Li Li,
Welcome to T2W.

If you're wanting technical (TA) analysis software so you can apply TA indicators to charts, then just about anything will do as the vast majority of packages available will have a good range of standard indicators including ADX. If you choose a U.S. or European based firm, the only possible issue that you may encounter is data. Most will provide data for the main equity index, but data for individual equities within the index and other Australian markets may be a little harder to come by. Obviously, if you opt for an Australian data provider - then this shouldn't be a problem.

As for specific details about which one to opt for - check out this FAQ: Can You Recommend a Data Feed, Charting Software & Broker?
Enjoy!
Tim.
 
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