Cocoa

Anyway, fingers crossed, stop just below the recent low. (I suspect I won't be the only one with his stop there?). I guess I now have to hope for an escalating security problem in Ivory Coast (no a very ethic thought), which is IMHO sort of the the only reason why CC could go up.


Other fundamentals are also supportive for higher prices IMO.

- EDF Mann is forecasting a 144,000 MT Deficit for 2004/2005.
- There are insect (pod-borer) problems in Indonesia ( the other major producer)
- The likely El Nino effect is for drought , (also In Indonesia), which could further cut production.

The long-term charts are telling me Cocoa should rise in the weeks and months ahead. Technical purists say all you need is the charts....
 
You might be right but I remain concerned about immediate future. Even after the news that cocoa arrivals were down this week, London closed today at Day lows at 873.


DJ Ivory Coast Daily Cocoa Arrivals Seen 25%-50% Down On Avg
(Repeating)

ABIDJAN (Dow Jones)--Daily arrivals of cocoa beans at Ivory Coast's ports
so far this week are down by 25%-50% from the average daily arrivals for the
end of November, shippers said Wednesday.

Arrivals at the southwestern port of San Pedro were an estimated 3,000
metric tons Monday and Tuesday, down 25% on average daily arrivals of around
4,000 tons typical for this time of the year, they said, adding they expected
2,000 tons to arrive at the port Wednesday.

"We had 1,000 tons this morning here in San Pedro and I believe another
1,000 tons will have arrived by the end of the day," a leading shipper told
Dow Jones Newswires.

A source with access to official arrival data said the port had received
about 27,000 tons of beans in the seven days to Nov. 21, including some 5,000
tons bought by the San Pedro-branch of Cipexi, owned by Continaf, of the
Netherlands, and 3,000 tons purchased by Cargill San Pedro.

This compares to 54,132 tons purchased at the ports of Abidjan and San
Pedro in week 47 of last year.

No data were available for the port of Abidjan but shippers there said
arrivals had slumped as compared to last week.

Abidjan handles more than half of Ivory Coast's cocoa exports, consisting
of beans and semi-finished cocoa products. In November 2003 Abidjan shipped
58% of all cocoa exported that month.

"What we need is a price of over 400 (CFA francs per kilogram). That's when
the cocoa will start coming down again," said an Abidjan shipper.

He said he paid on Wednesday 385 CFA francs ($1=XOF501.611) a kilo of beans
delivered at his port warehouse.

Other shippers quoted slightly lower prices of XOF375-XOF380/kg.
 
bgold said:
"What we need is a price of over 400 (CFA francs per kilogram). That's when
the cocoa will start coming down again," said an Abidjan shipper.

He said he paid on Wednesday 385 CFA francs ($1=XOF501.611) a kilo of beans
delivered at his port warehouse.

Other shippers quoted slightly lower prices of XOF375-XOF380/kg.

This statement makes me even more suspicious about the reason behind the recent turmoil.

What might have made prices increase better than unrest?
 
It's fairly obvious that cocoa is overhanging the market. These boys can't wait for something to shove the market into their selling :cheesy:
 
Still more bullish fundamentals:

-Due to dry conditions earlier this year, there's not a lot of cocoa out there.
-Farmer co-ops lack funds to rent trucks and buy the beans from the farms.
-Farmers' Unions went on strike for seven days, demanding funds for the co-ops. The strike was settled when the government promised funds, but the funds still have not come.
-ARCC is putting more stringent quality control measures on the beans. It takes longer to get the beans inspected and moving. If the beans fail inspection due to mold, they go back to where they came from to be mixed with other beans in order to lower the percentage of moldy beans, and then they go back for another inspection. This is time-consuming and costly.
-Most farmers are hoarding their beans, waiting for higher prices. The more time these beans remain on the farm, the more they will mold.
 
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Gene -

Interesting and valid points regarding Cocoa bullish fundamentals. I expect we'll see a retest of the 1800+ highs, (basis March) in due course.

Welcome to T2W. ;)
 
Looking at the weekly chart, I don't think 2100 is too much to hope for. Looking at the monthly chart, 2300 looks possible, but I won't say that aloud. :)
 
I think another valid bullish fundamental aspect is outside Ivory Coast: sea freight rates due to increase to incorporate war risk premium.
 
March Cocoa tested 1550 support and held today, before bouncing back to close unchanged on the day.

The resulting double bottom gives very solid support from here, IMO.

Cocoa has a seasonal tendency to make an important low around late November, and move higher thereafter.
 

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Thank you. Before the market opened today, I was planning to buy, but the way it was acting didn't have me convinced. There's a better chance that I'll buy tomorrow.
 
Re NY Cocoa -

The volume structure is confirming that the recent downtrend was corrective in nature.

Volume expanded on the up-swing, and contracted on the correction down.

We now have a double bottom, and are poised to break out of the short-term downtrend (above 1600)

See chart below :
 

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Open Interest is shown on the above chart (red line in lower window) as rising from 25000 to over 50000 during the recent run-up, then levelling off/declining slightly during the correction lower.
 
A very strong day and still climbing as I post.

March Cocoa has broken out of the recent short-term downtrend and the indicators are turning up.

Resistance is at : 1665 , 1750 and 1800 highs.
 

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Strong end to the week in March Cocoa (NY).

1) 1675 resistance was breached
2) Support held at 1630
3) Outside Day UP Bar on the charts
4) Next major resistance 1750 and 1800.

I'm in from 1600, looking for 1750 and 1800 resistance points to be tested.
 

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I'm looking for resistance at the top of the channel on the weekly chart, and dreaming of resistance at the top of the channel on the monthly chart. (I often use the word "resistance" when I shoud say "target".)

"Gaps get filled"? There's a gap on the weekly chart just above 2000.
 

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