barjon said:
Socrates
Maybe it would be less exasperating to concentrate attention on those who do grasp, accept and retain. Unfortunately, there is little point in posting agreement if there is nothing further to add so they will tend to go unnoticed.
As I said earlier, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. It's up to each individual to decide whether they are going to "cling to their belief stucture......etc" and if that leads to a few dead and dying horses on the bank of the river so be it. To continue with the equine flavour, you can't flog a dead horse
regards
jon
Rear Barjon,
The problem is that people as I have said before, are very skilled in ordinary life at fudging.
Sometimes this fudging of theirs is harmless, and sometimes it is not.
Unfortunately, the skilled fudgers are very skilled at it and what is more, at hiding that they fudge everything they can lay their hands on because it is a matter of habit, culture, and ultimately if analysed in the correct moral light as dishonest or unfair, we have no alternative but to accept it emanates from their corrupted perspective to do with survival. The survival drive is what drives the fudging.
This survival technique works in ordinary life, and its skilled operators are admired, you see, they are described as "having savvy", "knowing a thing or two" or the ultimate accolade in the Beeezness World, being "Streetwise".
Now in the markets, none of this nonsense is tolerated, all decisions when participating are final, there is no appeal, the result is irrevocable, and it does not matter who bleats or tries to cheat, but the system and the way in which is operated is not "fudge friendly". It is in fact "fudge hostile".
For this reason, and for this reason alone, it causes the previously "testosterone charged streetwisers" to reel with shock to experience that for all their fudging, cheating, skyving, etc., skills acquired in what they call "the real world" none of it works or is tolerated here.
This new world that they now venture to enter is constructed to scrape off such people, and only to admit on ability, merit and on conduct. This is an enormous shock to them and a personal affront to them both personally and collectively.
As those who have the correct attributes of patience, openmindedness, determination, decency and honour and above all the correct behaviour and attitude, are proved to be in the relative minority in comparison with the testosterone charged mob, then what happens is that additionally, the contrived selection process the markets impose, quickly sort out who's who in the zoo.
The squeals of rage can he heard on the others side of Africa. Anything and everything becomes a target, except themselves and their own ineptitudes of course, because, additionally, the human persona, views itself as perfect : It has to; since its main mission is the preservation of life. The preservation of life cannot be entrusted to a persona whose view of itself is flawed. This is an Axiom. An Axiom is a fundamenttal truth.
But, I say again, the market sorts them out. You or I could not do it. I have tried, I have tried very hard indeed in the past, I have tried much harder than could ordinarily be expected of anyone, and I have persisted in trying, and doing so for a very long time, with not always the results I expected.
This has taught me that people do not carry labels on their foreheads to certify that they are fit and proper people suitable to be admitted to what is undoubtedly the most challenging, the most exciting, the most satisfying, the most awesome, and ultimately the most beautiful profession of modernity.
For this reason, as a result of my first hand experience, I am no longer benign and willing to make excuses to let people off, on the basis that either they were orphans, or had made "mistakes", or "didn't mean it" or "thought you would not notice" or "thought you did not care" or " that it would not mean much to you after all" or "you can afford it"or "I can get away with it" or "this is a good excuse" or "let's be fair" (according to Beezness methods) or "I can take unfair advantage of everything, the trick is not to get caught" and so on.
No, my dear Barjon, not any more. That is why I am not willing to teach. Teaching (and teaching correctly involves a structured programme of learning, in ascending rafts of complexity which involves a huge amount of effort) I will not do it anymore for all the reasons above , but what I am willing to do is to continue to point in the right direction, I am willing to enter discussion in order to help people raise their standards of awareness, and I am willing to set the record straight, by flattening any nonsense if and when it should appear.
And there you have it, Barjon, which is the chain of reasoning I am pursuing with our fellow member Dave JB, to his consternation and alarm. And Bramble, Pay Attention !
Kind Regards As Usual.