Brexit and the Consequences

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Yes instead of trashing the middle east, we could be running the EU instead? P1ss up and brewery spring to mind :whistling



that's right and how did they manage that, I wonder!

No, I'll tell you what, let's have 'transformational growth' in Africa instead 👎

 

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Surreal.

https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1035982015919779840

 

[counter_violent]

Sweden Again

You and they are right and most acknoledge migration into EU is causing some major tremors.

However,once again distinction needs to be made between free movement of Labour within EU and that coming from outside.

The vast number of external migrants have arisen due to ME wars and Spring uprising etc etc.

Thick planks spring to mind.

UK could have played a major role taking leadership in EU from Germany n France but hasn't really played hand well at all.

Instead people have used refugee migration crises to skew debate.

That has been a hand well played by eurosceptics since 1975 post 2nd referendum true moaners to say the least.

So the tripe and misdirection continues.

Once again it's clear you don't understand how it works. Free movement is exactly the problem. Once immigrants are inside the EU and cleared to stay, they can move wherever they like and ghettoize the next town, city, area. Even if they are not cleared to stay, there is nothing stopping them moving around, operating under the radar, dealing drugs, black market activity, the list is endless and none of it is good. Not to mention the cost in benefits.

Sweden has had enough of the Libby Leftie Establishment and EU policies, so the right of thinking will now rise up and attempt to take back control. ( It's going to get messy! )

So well done all you supporters of Liberal Socialism, your handy work is laid bare for all to see.

Sweden currently has 61 no go areas.

 

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Coming to America

Ever wonder why Trump got elected !

 

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Have You Learned Anything Yet?

London UK and it's the same in all big cities.

 

[counter_violent]

The EU will collapse.

It has to collapse in order to effect change. This is how stubborn and stupid EU leaders are.

 

[Splitlink]

I was talking to a Spaniard this morning and he said "The British are like that. Remember de Gaulle and his veto? EU should have listened. If they had refused UK entry they would, still, be trying to get in to-day instead of wanting to leave and upsetting everybody"

 

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I was talking to a Spaniard this morning and he said "The British are like that. Remember de Gaulle and his veto? EU should have listened. If they had refused UK entry they would, still, be trying to get in to-day instead of wanting to leave and upsetting everybody"

Wouldn't it have been a much better EU if it had remained a trading bloc and not required political and military integration? Or if UKGov had decided to remain as a trading partner and not signed up to various integrational treaties? Of course that was never possible given the political ambitions of the EU at its inception and the greediness of political ambition and power of corporatocrisy on both sides.

Who is really upset? People that wanted not to join from the beginning have been upset for 40 years, given that we were taken into it illegally in the first place.

 

[Pat494]

I think most people are agreed that the political ideology of the EU is unacceptable but I do hope that in their anger they do not insist the UK leaves scientific and security aspects. We have a lot to contribute and so do they if we can work togethor rather than duplicate everything.
Perhaps keep going on them until the political clowns get sensible and then rejoin ? Our beliefs would counter the rising neo Nazi ideologies springing up in Germany again.

 

[counter_violent]

Right, so that's that then !

EU rubbishing Mays Chequers deal.

So now we are all in agreement. It's a sh1t deal, WTO here we come 👍

May and Hammond can now hand over to a team who's interests lie in taking the UK forward.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45389610

 

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EU rubbishing Mays Chequers deal.

So now we are all in agreement. It's a sh1t deal, WTO here we come 👍

May and Hammond can now hand over to a team who's interests lie in taking the UK forward.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45389610

May's Brexit plan is a sh1tiest of all plans and deals yes that's for sure.

Trade agreements all about reducing red tape and making trade seamless.

What a load of b0ll0x they've concocked up about we collect their tariffs and they collect ours and we reconcile depending on where it's come from and who's got what agreements with who bla bla bla. Absolute mind ****!!!

They tried after 2 years and that's the best they can come up with???

Shocking levels of incompetence. However, after chief civil service EU negotiator resigned it was clear government / cabinet weren't going to listen to any advice.

I recal Gove and Boris both saying its easy, simple. Why can't we do this or that?


Wonder boys the lot of'm. Bunch of self important pr1cks having their time in the limelight.


All-in or all-out. No freaking pick and mix.


Farage is another with his pick Swiss deal or pick Norwegian deal. They are all loaded with pros and cons none of which have been weighed or considered in any paper with respect to impact on UK.

As they used to say no FT no Comment.


All we know is this isn't about the economy it is about the national British identity. That's all that matters for Brexiteers. So let's get on with it. I guess that means all-out in every sense of the word 😉

 

[Splitlink]

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Who is really upset? People that wanted not to join from the beginning have been upset for 40 years, given that we were taken into it illegally in the first place.

Considering the referendum result, It can be argued that the country is about to repeat its mistake. 52%-48% shows a deeply divided country.

However, this is going to run its course, whatever we want. It is up to us, as individuals, to prepare ourselves for the outcome and try to look after ourselvex as much as possible-

 

[cantagril]

It is up to us, as individuals, to prepare ourselves for the outcome and try to look after ourselvex as much as possible-

Sez Split, from the comfort of Catalonia

My own bolt-hole is also prepared😛

 

[Pat494]

It might be a good idea to buy one of those funk holes the politicians had built for THEMSELVES. Nuclear proof bunkers.
But coming to think on it the politicians would probably turf one out to re-install themselves in a time of crisis.

 

[cantagril]

It might be a good idea to buy one of those funk holes the politicians had built for THEMSELVES. Nuclear proof bunkers.

I'm going to settle for a modest wine cellar instead😀

 

[timsk]

. . .May and Hammond can now hand over to a team who's interests lie in taking the UK forward.

Hi c_v,
Yes, they could but, almost certainly, they won't. It seems to me that if there's one thing that unites Brexiteers and Remainers, and most Tories and all socialists too come to that, is that Mrs. May is a total disaster. Unfortunately, her one great strength - the one (only?) thing she appears to be really good at - is gritting her teeth and soldiering on. Even if, as looks like being the case, her Chequers deal gets binned, I can't see her standing down. And she won't call another general election as she's surely learnt her lesson on that front. So, sadly, I fear she ain't going anywhere anytime soon and that she'll still be PM after 29th March next year.
Tim.

 

[barjon]

Hi c_v,
Yes, they could but, almost certainly, they won't. It seems to me that if there's one thing that unites Brexiteers and Remainers, and most Tories and all socialists too come to that, is that Mrs. May is a total disaster. Unfortunately, her one great strength - the one (only?) thing she appears to be really good at - is gritting her teeth and soldiering on. Even if, as looks like being the case, her Chequers deal gets binned, I can't see her standing down. And she won't call another general election as she's surely learnt her lesson on that front. So, sadly, I fear she ain't going anywhere anytime soon and that she'll still be PM after 29th March next year.
Tim.

I have some sympathy for her since she has been set an impossible task in trying to come up with a “deal” that satisfies Brexit aspirations and is acceptable to EU. Nobody else fancies drinking from this poisoned chalice so she’ll soldier on and be blamed whatever the outcome. Then they’ll trample her.

 

[Pat494]

Her best hope is that the EU negotiators feel sorry for her and not burn her too badly.
Was it the Comissioners that appointed Barmier and Junckers ?
I don't suppose they can be easily deposed.

 

[timsk]

I have some sympathy for her since she has been set an impossible task in trying to come up with a “deal” that satisfies Brexit aspirations and is acceptable to EU. Nobody else fancies drinking from this poisoned chalice so she’ll soldier on and be blamed whatever the outcome. Then they’ll trample her.

Hi Jon,
Yes (ish) - that is to say I hear what you're saying - but Mrs. May does herself no favours. To bang on 'Brexit means Brexit' and to have red lines that can't be crossed - only to then cross all of them - is unacceptable. She's unable to inspire confidence in her cabinet, let alone the wider Tory party and get them to unite behind her. And that, surely, is essential of any party leader and incumbent PM. She needs to stand down and hand over the reigns to a Brexiteer who actually believes in Brexit. Yes, she's wrestling with an impossible conundrum, but that doesn't excuse her actions which tell us that she can't be trusted. I doubt there's a man or woman in the country - regardless of which side of the debate they're on - who doesn't think that they could do a better job than she's currently doing. Me included!
Tim.

 

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