Ukraine invasion

timsk said:
Like what Histo' said, above!

I can't believe how wide of the mark you are c_v - just how skewed your thinking is and how divorced from reality it's become. The 'program' you speak of is the international rules based system created by the U.S. to retain their hegemony and to protect the $USD as the world's reserve currency, ably supported by the usual suspects: i.e. most western leaders of all political hues, WEF, UN, EU, WHO, IMF, Gates Foundation etc. etc. Keep the U.S. as the top dog and then, collectively, they can promote their globalist 'build back better' agenda which will usher in CBDCs, vaccine health passes and the Net Zero scam etc. All this was clearly laid out as recently as last week's G20 summit.

These are the very people you've been fighting against and lampooning for years - now you're their cheerleader. Too weird! You know full well this is a proxy war between the U.S. and Russia and Ukraine is just an expendable pawn that the U.S. doesn't care about at all. On the contrary, it wants Russia to destroy the country and kill its people so that it (the U.S.) can claim the moral high ground and those that don't understand what's going on are duped into supporting their rallying cry of 'Zelensky & Ukraine good - Putin & Russia bad'. You're being played c_v: sleepy Joe is laughing at you as I type this. What, I wonder, will it take for you to wake up to this reality?
Tim.
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Russia has a credible alternative system does it. :ROFLMAO:

Go have a word with yourself ffs.

Russia is totally reliant on the West for tech, parts, know how.

You don't need to believe anything I say, we can just sit here and watch it all fall apart slowly, then quickly.
 

Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for November 21, 2022
  • Russian makes incremental gains in the Donbass region.
  • Ukraine’s power grid continues to degrade under Russian missile and drone strikes.
  • Ukraine continues denying responsibility for missile strike in Poland.
  • US claims NASAMS air defence systems performed at 100% effectiveness, provide no numbers or proof of this claim.
  • There are not enough NASAMS arriving in Ukraine over the next several years to protect Ukraine from further Russian missile and drone salvos.
  • Ukraine has more or less abandoned Kherson city.
  • US DoD admits Ukraine cannot achieve its main objective of expelling Russia.
  • Failure to achieve Ukraine’s objective while continuing to fight and lose men and equipment equates to demilitarisation.
 
counter_violent said:
Russia has a credible alternative system does it. :ROFLMAO:
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Yep. And my guess is that you haven't a clue what it is. Clue: I'm not talking about communism which, increasingly is being adopted by the west. It's part and parcel of the west's globalist agenda.
counter_violent said:
Go have a word with yourself ffs.
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What do you suggest?
counter_violent said:
Russia is totally reliant on the West for tech, parts, know how.
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That's just another myth sleepy Joe has conned you into believing. Too funny! India and China are quite good at tech don't you know.
counter_violent said:
You don't need to believe anything I say, we can just sit here and watch it all fall apart slowly, then quickly.
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Agreed, at least we can agree on something. Prepare yourself for a nasty shock!
 
counter_violent said:
Russia is totally reliant on the West for tech, parts, know how.
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Who is reliant on whom?

End Dependency on China, Russia to Strengthen the U.S, Say Americans

thenewamerican.com

U.S. Energy Dependence on Russia Soaring, Biden Pressed to Stop Paying for Putin’s Wars

America's energy independence was achieved in 2020, but now her dependence on Russia is at an all-time high. ...
thenewamerican.com thenewamerican.com

eurasiantimes.com

Not Only Stealth Jets, US 'Critically Dependent' On Russia For Nuclear Reactor Component That Only Moscow Sells

The United States has found itself in an ironical situation where it depends on raw materials or intermediary components for many of its vital defense aerospace programs from arch-rivals Russia and China. China Acknowledges B-21 Stealth Bomber Threat; Military Experts Say PLA Missiles Can ‘Raid...
eurasiantimes.com eurasiantimes.com

Mapping U.S. Military Dependence on Russian Fossil Fuels | Climate Solutions Lab

The Climate Solutions Lab’s mission is to create, learn, and distribute solution-oriented climate knowledge, at Brown and across the world.
watson.brown.edu watson.brown.edu

www.forbes.com

Russia Is A Major Supplier Of Oil To The U.S.

As Russian troops move into the separatist regions of Ukraine, it's worth noting how much these events could impact the U.S. economy.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

www.heritage.org

America’s Dependence on China Is a Crisis in the Making

America’s supply chain crisis is far from over. Persistent backlogs at West Coast ports have led shippers to reroute their cargoes to the east. As a result, container ships now sit offshore at ports such as New York, Houston, and Savannah, waiting in queue to offload.
www.heritage.org www.heritage.org

Congress must address America’s dependency on Chinese technology in defense bill - Washington Examiner

While China may have recently closed the military capability gap, Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) has introduced legislative language that could spoil the Chinese Communist Party’s predatory military plans in one fell swoop.Building off the important work of former President Donald Trump, who imposed...
www.washingtonexaminer.com www.washingtonexaminer.com

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What do you think will happen if the US/NATO starts an open war with Russia or China?
 
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Blame the Deep State for Carnage in Ukraine​

The foreign policy establishment knew it was needlessly provoking Russia at every step along the way.

"From the onset of the Ukraine war, the corporate media, politicians, and all the controlled NGOs throughout America and Western Europe were lockstep in their claim that the Russian military action in eastern Ukraine was unprovoked and unjustified—an act of aggression that could not be allowed to stand.

There was one problem with this propaganda blitz: it was totally untrue. The Deep State—the government elites, intelligence community, and the military establishment—has spent decades threatening and provoking Russia by pushing NATO up against their border.

You do not have to like Russia to see this, and you can detest Vladimir Putin until the cows come home. The fundamental issue remains the same: the Russians view NATO on their border as an act of aggression and a threat to their national security, and we have known this for decades. . ."
 

WWBS -- What would Brian say?:)
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Winters coming. Ukraine will continue putting pressure on Russias demoralised troops cannon fodder alongside supply line disruption.

 
Good old Norway. Doing their bit supplying Europeans with gas, supplying arms and training to Ukraine and they have pots of money should they need to defend against Russian so far empty threats.

 
counter_violent said:
Should Ukrainians give Russia a break?

Nah, didn't think so !

MSN

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Here's how to help.:)
www.indy100.com

There's a fundraiser to send Putin to Jupiter – and it’s already hit $2 million

When it comes to everyday citizens expressing their hatred for Russian president Vladimir Putin following his country’s invasion of Ukraine, some have ideas which are truly out of this world.Literally.Worlds away from the Nottingham pub which slapped a picture of Putin on their urinal, an online...
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CavaliereVerde said:
The situation is so bad for Ukraine that every 2 months there is a big defeat for Russians.
Let's wait for the next retreat.
I prefer facts over conspiracies, and the fact is Kherson back to Ukraine.
From "wishful thinking" to reality in a cuople of months.
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your in a delusion .. at no point has UKRAINE been winning this conflict .. RUSSIA is winning this conflict hands down .. the ukrainians are sarcrificing themselves for the west's proxy war .. against RUSSIA to take PUTIN out and regime change .. the same template all the time ..
 
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