Tories soft on immigration

[TraderPattern]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13617183

I voted Tory in order to stop the illiegal immigrants. If you read the article, you will see just how badly my party has failed.

There are only 2 options left worth voting for, UKIP and the BNP.

UKIP has better policies on Europe than the BNP, so I urge you all to vote UKIP next election.

 

[Ambrose Ackroyd]

Can't we just vote for the Islamic National Front ?

 

[TraderPattern]

can't we just vote for the islamic national front ?

lol

 

[forker]

Without immigrants the UK would fall apart.

 

[TraderPattern]

Without immigrants the UK would fall apart.

I agree, but I am talking about illegal immigrants who come to sponge off the state.

Immigrants from places like India are fine, they contribute to society.

 

[intradaybill]

Conservatives use illegal immigrants to control labor cost because their agenda is to protect the capital owners.

Socialists use illegal immigrants to dilute voting power

We need alternatives.

 

[trendie]

The general consensus is humanity first appeared in the Great Rift Valley of Africa.
And has been moving, migrating and exploring ever since.

EVERYONE outside the "Cradle of Humanity" is, essentially, an immigrant.
Even the UK was once underwater, and had NO humans on it.
The UK was once under several miles of glaciers, and thus, again, without human occupation.

On ANY level, EVERYBODY is an immigrant of some sort or another.

 

[TraderPattern]

The general consensus is humanity first appeared in the Great Rift Valley of Africa.
And has been moving, migrating and exploring ever since.

EVERYONE outside the "Cradle of Humanity" is, essentially, an immigrant.
Even the UK was once underwater, and had NO humans on it.
The UK was once under several miles of glaciers, and thus, again, without human occupation.

On ANY level, EVERYBODY is an immigrant of some sort or another.

This is a very philosophical post and I appreciate your contribution to my thread.

 

[Splitlink]

I agree, but I am talking about illegal immigrants who come to sponge off the state.

Immigrants from places like India are fine, they contribute to society.

It is no good coming out with statements like that without giving us an alternative. What is it?

If you go over to Calais you'll see what the truck drivers see. Hundreds of them, perhaps thousands, all trying to get over the Channel.

So, you are going to stop them? Pass your ideas over to Cameron because he has run out.

If you try to deport the ones you catch you have the problem of proving where they have originated from if they have no papers.

They would be stopped if they could be, I'm sure of that.

 

[TraderPattern]

I voted for Cameron, but he has proven to be weak. We need a stronger government in. I will have to decide between UKIP and the BNP, and am probably going to go with UKIP. Having said that, I have once had a beer with Nick Griffin and he seemed fairly intelligent. In due course, maybe Nick deserves a shot at PM.

 

[forker]

The government is nothing more than a business and it's elected members are nothing more than sales people. They pretend to sell you what you want but when you open the box you realise you have been marked the fool. Who is really running the western world, businesses not the government. You only need to look at their dealings to see through the smoke and mirrors.
It makes me sick just thinking how different humans could be if there were no gain to be made aside from the greater good of humanity and this delicate planet we are stupidly destroying. Agent smith in the matrix had it right all along, we are like a bacteria, we spread to a location and consume every resource we can until its gone and move onto the next location. One day there will be no more to give. It would be hilarious if it were not so sad that the majority couldn't care less about the smoke and mirrors before them. As long as it doesn't intrude on their life why should they anyway. Its the greatest con the world has ever seen

 

[Atilla]

The government is nothing more than a business and it's elected members are nothing more than sales people. They pretend to sell you what you want but when you open the box you realise you have been marked the fool. Who is really running the western world, businesses not the government. You only need to look at their dealings to see through the smoke and mirrors.
It makes me sick just thinking how different humans could be if there were no gain to be made aside from the greater good of humanity and this delicate planet we are stupidly destroying. Agent smith in the matrix had it right all along, we are like a bacteria, we spread to a location and consume every resource we can until its gone and move onto the next location. One day there will be no more to give. It would be hilarious if it were not so sad that the majority couldn't care less about the smoke and mirrors before them. As long as it doesn't intrude on their life why should they anyway. Its the greatest con the world has ever seen

This book http://www.amazon.ca/My-Ishmael-Daniel-Quinn/dp/0553379658
explains mans growth and how it displaces and consumes anything and everything in its path.

Looking at it from outside the human experience it paints a picture of man as one of the worst kind of creation on earth. Swarming locusts just doesn't even come close to picturing our impact on earth.

Good read to any interested party.

 

[sighthound]

Piggy banks as I remember as a kid were a little ornament you put your spare change in to save for the future,rainy day or a holiday etc.Now all the lessons we were taught about these piggys have changed.The piggys have changed,they've got bigger,fatter,more varacious,and now they hunt.
Just look at the piggys now,Goverment piggys,EU piggys,Council piggys,Immigration piggys,Actor piggys, Pop piggys,A,B,C,D,E,....Z grade celebrity piggys,even football piggys....are we in a democratic trough or is this just like a bad fairy tale.

 

[Atilla]

Piggy banks as I remember as a kid were a little ornament you put your spare change in to save for the future,rainy day or a holiday etc.Now all the lessons we were taught about these piggys have changed.The piggys have changed,they've got bigger,fatter,more varacious,and now they hunt.
Just look at the piggys now,Goverment piggys,EU piggys,Council piggys,Immigration piggys,Actor piggys, Pop piggys,A,B,C,D,E,....Z grade celebrity piggys,even football piggys....are we in a democratic trough or is this just like a bad fairy tale.

Democratic trough has my vote.

Even my son was calling for the over throw of parliament and he is only 11. :cheesy:

I really do feel the whole planet is evolving and the next 100 years will be nothing compared to the last 10,000 years. Exponentially man is evolving.

We are at the cusp of a new era. I simply can't wait to see what's on the other side... :cheesy:

 

[forker]

Cockroaches and politicians is my guess

 

[theroguetrader]

with Lord Snooty, " never had a real job " Osborne, & " clueless Clegg " in charge - NOTHING will ever be fixed in this country !!


FACT !!

 

[Atilla]

I thought this was a good program to watch...

Eye opener or what?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011ql6k/Andrew_Marrs_Megacities_Living_in_the_City/

 

[sighthound]

Give me the country anyday,sod that!

 

[Atilla]

You a country mouse then?

We now live in Worthing and I prefer it so much more to London.

Brighton even is too big - like a little London.


Re: the program - I find it shocking that in a city of 30m (Tokyo) people call "Rent a Friend"! :-0

 

[TraderPattern]

If enough people get together and vote for change, maybe we can solve the immigration problem once and for all. At the moment, in places like London it doesn't even feel like we are in England.

And the immigrants are running around like they own the place. When the richest men in our country are an Indian steel magnate and a Russian gangster it makes you think we've lost the plot.