Atilla
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Maybe but looking at 1H and 4H charts tells the same story. Looks like another breakout to the upside above 1475.
I'm on the bullish side right now. Have to stick to my MAs which I think of as lanes on the road. Must remain on the correct side of the lanes even if traffic is moving slowly. So will go with system and leave my neck out of it...
I'll stick with 1494 - same as last week.
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That's going to skew-down the Average twins... Not sure if they'll be happy with that :cheesy:
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Imo, it's because we still have bears that this thing has a chance of going higher. So long as they keep disbelieving this move, it's going to head north.
Still, I'm getting a bit antsy. We're at a 5-year high and 1500 is getting close. I'm with Mike, here. It's going to touch 1500, then sell off next week.
So, 1510 for me, please.
Still, I'm getting a bit antsy. We're at a 5-year high and 1500 is getting close. I'm with Mike, here. It's going to touch 1500, then sell off next week.
So, 1510 for me, please.
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Are you sure your not just following me Ian ? i may have to obtain a Guru vendors badge if this continues.
Still no 15000. What is the SPX waiting for before storming through to 15020? That's what I like to know.
Moving averages heading in the right direction. Making new highs. What next?
My system is telling me up and my brain is telling me in needs a breather. Last time I had this conundrum I lost out by following the system. I'll be pondering over the weekend and hopefully reach a view tomorrow afternoon...
whats the phrase "the trends your friend" I'll have to go with it so 1500 for me please
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NEW YORK (Frankfurt: A0DKRK - news) , Dec 14 (Reuters) - Global shares wavered on Friday as investors fretted about the lack of progress in U.S. fiscal negotiations and signs of a deepening recession in the euro zone, but data indicating strong expansion in Chinese manufacturing helped lift oil prices.
China's vast manufacturing sector expanded in early December at the fastest pace in 14 months as new orders and employment rose, a survey showed, adding to evidence of a pick-up in the Chinese economy.
The dollar fell from a near nine-month high against the yen while the euro surged to its highest level against the greenback since early May as U.S. inflation data affirmed the Federal (SES: E1:F20.SI - news) Reserve's ultra-easy monetary policy.
Talks between President Barack Obama and House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner on budget negotiations designed to avert the "fiscal cliff" were seen at an apparent standstill on Friday. Some $600 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts set to begin in January, unless lawmakers reach a deal, are seen as a threat that could tip the U.S. economy back into recession.
Frustration has mounted over the lack of progress, reflected in a 0.6 percent drop in the S&P 500 (SNP: ^GSPC - news) on Thursday.
"The uncertainty that (the fiscal talks) is creating is basically holding the markets hostage in the short term," said Andres Garcia-Amaya, global market strategist at J.P. Morgan (KOSDAQ: 019990.KQ - news) Funds, in New York.
The Dow Jones industrial average was down 14.48 points, or 0.11 percent, at 13,156.24. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index was down 3.48 points, or 0.25 percent, at 1,415.97. The Nasdaq Composite Index was down 17.27 points, or 0.58 percent, at 2,974.89.
A 3.8 percent drop in shares of tech giant Apple (NasdaqGS: AAPL - news) after UBS (NYSEArca: SPGH - news) cut its price target to $700 from $780 weighed on Nasdaq (Nasdaq: ^NDX - news) . The stock has tumbled in recent months for several reasons, including investors locking in profits ahead of scheduled capital-gains increases for next year.
The MSCI global stock index traded almost flat at 336.94 points.
European shares slipped as investors banked profits after hitting 18-month highs earlier in the week, and some said the pan-European index was vulnerable to a deeper correction the longer U.S. budget talks remain at an impasse.
The FTSEurofirst 300 closed down 0.1 percent at 1,133.36.
"The bad news is, in large part, we've seen the market ignore relatively good news in the economic data stream as we focus on the fiscal cliff," said Art Hogan, managing director of Lazard Capital Markets in New York.
Data out of China was encouraging for its key trading partners, including the United States, and for the prospects for world economic growth. Oil prices rose as China is the world's second-largest oil consumer.
Brent crude rose $1.29 to $109.20 a barrel, on course to eke out its first weekly gain this month. U.S. crude rose 84 cents to settle at $86.73.
But the outlook for the euro zone economy remains gloomy.
Disappointing German manufacturing sector figures and a rise in euro zone unemployment overshadowed a small pick-up in purchasing manager data.
The German manufacturing purchasing managers index slipped to 46.3 in December from 46.8 the previous month, remaining well below the 50 threshold that divides growth from contraction and missing the consensus Reuters poll forecast for a rise to 47.2.
"All in all, the picture for the(euro zone) economy has not changed much after today's data," said Annalisa Piazza, an economist at Newedge Strategy in London. "GDP is expected to continue to contract in Q4-12, and there are no signs of improvement for the first part of next year."
The euro rose 0.6 percent to $1.3154, while the dollar slipped 0.24 percent to 83.42 yen.
The yen had earlier weakened after Japanese media reported the conservative Liberal Democratic Party is set for a resounding victory in elections on Sunday, cementing speculation that the party's leader, Shinzo Abe, will be in a strong position to push for bold monetary easing.
"Abe has been making pretty strong comments about inflation targeting and if we look at the economy Japan (EUREX: FMJP.EX - news) needs a lower currency without a doubt," said Maurice Pomery, managing director at consultants Strategic Alpha.
"This is going to put pressure on the BoJ. It's the start of a move lower in the yen that has a long way to go."
The benchmark 10-year U.S. Treasury note was up 6/32 in price to yield 1.711 percent.
The U.S. Labor Department said its Consumer Price Index dropped 0.3 percent last month as a sharp decline in gasoline prices offset increases in other areas. It was also the largest drop since May and followed a 0.1 percent gain in October.
"The crux of this report is simply that the inflationary backdrop remains very benign, providing the Fed with considerable breathing room to keep monetary policy accommodative," said Millan Mulraine, a senior economist at TD Securities in New York.
China's vast manufacturing sector expanded in early December at the fastest pace in 14 months as new orders and employment rose, a survey showed, adding to evidence of a pick-up in the Chinese economy.
The dollar fell from a near nine-month high against the yen while the euro surged to its highest level against the greenback since early May as U.S. inflation data affirmed the Federal (SES: E1:F20.SI - news) Reserve's ultra-easy monetary policy.
Talks between President Barack Obama and House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner on budget negotiations designed to avert the "fiscal cliff" were seen at an apparent standstill on Friday. Some $600 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts set to begin in January, unless lawmakers reach a deal, are seen as a threat that could tip the U.S. economy back into recession.
Frustration has mounted over the lack of progress, reflected in a 0.6 percent drop in the S&P 500 (SNP: ^GSPC - news) on Thursday.
"The uncertainty that (the fiscal talks) is creating is basically holding the markets hostage in the short term," said Andres Garcia-Amaya, global market strategist at J.P. Morgan (KOSDAQ: 019990.KQ - news) Funds, in New York.
The Dow Jones industrial average was down 14.48 points, or 0.11 percent, at 13,156.24. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index was down 3.48 points, or 0.25 percent, at 1,415.97. The Nasdaq Composite Index was down 17.27 points, or 0.58 percent, at 2,974.89.
A 3.8 percent drop in shares of tech giant Apple (NasdaqGS: AAPL - news) after UBS (NYSEArca: SPGH - news) cut its price target to $700 from $780 weighed on Nasdaq (Nasdaq: ^NDX - news) . The stock has tumbled in recent months for several reasons, including investors locking in profits ahead of scheduled capital-gains increases for next year.
The MSCI global stock index traded almost flat at 336.94 points.
European shares slipped as investors banked profits after hitting 18-month highs earlier in the week, and some said the pan-European index was vulnerable to a deeper correction the longer U.S. budget talks remain at an impasse.
The FTSEurofirst 300 closed down 0.1 percent at 1,133.36.
"The bad news is, in large part, we've seen the market ignore relatively good news in the economic data stream as we focus on the fiscal cliff," said Art Hogan, managing director of Lazard Capital Markets in New York.
Data out of China was encouraging for its key trading partners, including the United States, and for the prospects for world economic growth. Oil prices rose as China is the world's second-largest oil consumer.
Brent crude rose $1.29 to $109.20 a barrel, on course to eke out its first weekly gain this month. U.S. crude rose 84 cents to settle at $86.73.
But the outlook for the euro zone economy remains gloomy.
Disappointing German manufacturing sector figures and a rise in euro zone unemployment overshadowed a small pick-up in purchasing manager data.
The German manufacturing purchasing managers index slipped to 46.3 in December from 46.8 the previous month, remaining well below the 50 threshold that divides growth from contraction and missing the consensus Reuters poll forecast for a rise to 47.2.
"All in all, the picture for the(euro zone) economy has not changed much after today's data," said Annalisa Piazza, an economist at Newedge Strategy in London. "GDP is expected to continue to contract in Q4-12, and there are no signs of improvement for the first part of next year."
The euro rose 0.6 percent to $1.3154, while the dollar slipped 0.24 percent to 83.42 yen.
The yen had earlier weakened after Japanese media reported the conservative Liberal Democratic Party is set for a resounding victory in elections on Sunday, cementing speculation that the party's leader, Shinzo Abe, will be in a strong position to push for bold monetary easing.
"Abe has been making pretty strong comments about inflation targeting and if we look at the economy Japan (EUREX: FMJP.EX - news) needs a lower currency without a doubt," said Maurice Pomery, managing director at consultants Strategic Alpha.
"This is going to put pressure on the BoJ. It's the start of a move lower in the yen that has a long way to go."
The benchmark 10-year U.S. Treasury note was up 6/32 in price to yield 1.711 percent.
The U.S. Labor Department said its Consumer Price Index dropped 0.3 percent last month as a sharp decline in gasoline prices offset increases in other areas. It was also the largest drop since May and followed a 0.1 percent gain in October.
"The crux of this report is simply that the inflationary backdrop remains very benign, providing the Fed with considerable breathing room to keep monetary policy accommodative," said Millan Mulraine, a senior economist at TD Securities in New York.
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Sorry At I made a mistake in the calculations.
1470 is what I should have said.
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Ha ha serve you right if it did tho.
We would need photographic evidence too you know !!
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like p1ssing on it ?
Haha, nothing like a bit of brinkmanship. Joy of the day visiting this thread
Here is the belated summary chaps, busy day today. I finally sussed the weighted averages calculations. Not much of a mind bender as the Inception movie but finally getting there. I'm well happy and chuffed with me self, if I may say so. Also that Robster is a well clever geezer coming up with it all to start with and kudos to him too.
Well I was surprised to see we have 8 ups and 7 downers. I mean 7 downers??? Tanker Squadron is now up againts Mr Weighty Weighty @ 1499 and mi thinks they have no chance :cheesy:
Good luck to you all
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Also that Robster is a well clever geezer coming up with it all to start with and kudos to him too.
It's all down to Pat you know - I just put it into a spreadsheet.
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Thanks guys - too kind. And I appreciate you 2 carrying on the thread when I faltered.
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hopefully we can all make profits togethor
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