paco oil and gas

I have googled it and their checked their website. there is no activity on their website. The new quote for wildwood management corp is 4IO.F and is being traded at Frankfurt Stock Exchange.


QUOTE=Lee Shepherd;439159]Yes.

Have a look through this site or do your due diligence first.

Or simply google it.

Or, if in doubt go without.[/QUOTE]
 
I have googled it and their checked their website. there is no activity on their website. The new quote for wildwood management corp is 4IO.F and is being traded at Frankfurt Stock Exchange.


O.k, lets ask yourself some questions.

I'm not after the answers nor am I interested.

Who called who?
The majority of people investing in this company where approached.

Why this company?
There are thousands per country out there to chose from.

Why do you ask if it could be a boiler room(scam)?
There are many reputable firms out there to deal with with solid information.

Who cares about there website?
Anyone can setup a good looking website.

If your unsure of my tone regarding this post I will make it clear with the next sentence.

Get real, I'm helping you here with no aim or motive, nor do I truely care if you waste your money, it is of course yours to do as you please.
You've asked for advice and help...You've got it and free of charge.

If your having to ask the most basic of questions (is it safe for my money(scam) )then I will automatically assume that other such research has not been carried out, if it has it's clearly been done the wrong way round.

It could have been sumed up from the beginning with anyone.
Anyone looking to invest should make the calls, do the homework, work out the risks involved then they will have their own answers.

Simply put- If in doubt, go without.

If you do decide to take the plunge then good luck. A fool and his money......
 
What a scam and I fell for it.

If anybody knows how to now sell the shares I have in Wildwood Management, this information would be much appreciated.

IMS claim to have offices in Zurich, however according to the Swiss FSA equivalent these offices are nothing more than a phone and mail forwarding service.

thanks
 
HI,
Can you give me info about Wildwood Management Corp.? Is it a scam/bolier room?

Wildwood is a Boiler room scam unfortunately i got caught with it myself for 10k, I know what a fool, It was a swiss company investors management services and a person from America and then an English guy Anthony Marcus. If anything take nothing to do with them PACO was the next ones and i played this out to meet these characters without committing, however, they must have smelt a rat as i never heard from them since. I hope noone ever loses money to these share of F~~~ers!! and in hindsight if something does sound too good to be true then it probably is.
 
PACO OIL & GAS - Investors Management Services - Their phone number 0041 445801496 doesnt work anymore and there website "investorsmanagement.ch" states:- "Domain gesperrt" it does not work either! so if any one knows who or where Anthony Marcus is then please let me know, my Smith and Western wants to meet him!
I shall update my experiance soon but for now I am just a little upset at losing £3,000 in this scam
 
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Paco Oil & Gas

PACO OIL & GAS - Investors Management Services - Their phone number 0041 445801496 doesnt work anymore and there website "investorsmanagement.ch" states:- "Domain gesperrt" it does not work either! so if any one knows who or where Anthony Marcus is then please let me know, my Smith and Western wants to meet him!
I shall update my experiance soon but for now I am just a little upset at losing £3,000 in this scam

You could try the following :-

Email : [email protected]

Email : [email protected]

Phone : +1 940 634 1839

Fax : +1 940 665 2517

Address : Paco Oil and Gas Inc,
718 Highway 82 East,
Sherman,
Texas,
75090

Contact : Librada Thomas (President)

Also have Paco Oil and Gas bank account details which you may find of interest!

Bank Name : Wells Fargo

Bank Address : 1001 S 1-35 East,
Denton,
Texas,
76205

Phone : +1 940 483 8748

Fax : +1 940 483 9778

Account Name : Paco Oil & Gas Inc

Account No : 5584463680

Swift Code : WFBIUS6S

ABA Routing : 121000248

Good Luck!:devilish::mad::(:cry:
 
IMS Investors Management Services - urgent help needed please

I am losing my mind, please help me. Clearly I was way too deep into this without having a clue. Call me a fool, whatever, I was sucked in at a very vulnerable time (just completed my divorce etc)

I have invested a lot of money via IMS (Investors Management Services) into 3 companies:

1. Paco Oil & Gas2
2. Wildwood Management
3. American Alternative Energy

I have read through this thread and now realise I may have been conned out of everything.

Some questions for everyone on this thread.....

1. Can I get any money back whatsoever?

2. Who do I report this to
- City of LOndon police (operation Archway)
- embassy in Switzerland
- FSA in Switzerland

3. Would it help forming a group since there appears to be so many of us?

4. Has anyone tried to visit them in Zurich?>

5. Do the following people really exist - Aaron Burn, Anthony Marcus, Charity Newman?

6. They are still calling me, even today (e.g Aaron) as I haven't told them I know what's going on yet. What can I do to trap them ?

I am extremely depressed about this whole situation and have potentially lost most of my savings. PLEASE be gentle with me and let me know what I can do about this IF ANYTHING.

Many thanks in advance.

Annette P.
 
1st as you rightfully say this has to be reported everywhere including your local police as it is a criminal offence against you a UK subject, the rozzers will state that there is nothing UK law can do because it's being done from outside the UK, however this depends on many factors including the amounts involved that WOULD involve many specialist teams to go global on the recovery etc!!!!

Annette P, Problem here is they could be in this forum !! I have read your post and all I can say is everything is tracable!!!! I done alot of research before handing over a single penny, even had a friend police officer check with the Metropolitan Police Internet Fraud Dept, all came back OK (at the time) prob unaware then!! We need to report this at all levels including the mentioned and the US FBI, because everything done in this world now is traceable to someone! I had the Anthony Marcus or Mr ???? ((real name ^%&*$%)) ??? call me, I became more sus when I suggested to him that we sell the shares because they were at $3 each back last week, thinking I could make £17,000 profit from my £3,000 investment I was pushing to sell especially because Anthony wanted me to invest £12,000 into AATV, I told him what I wanted to do with the Paco shares cash them in take some desparate needed cash for myself, and reinvest the rest, but he became quite shirty saying "how can I earn money if you don't listen to me, (now I know what he meant) surely you can raise £12,000, can you raise it on credit cards, loans or re-mortgage" yep he said all that! anyway he kept straying off the subject of selling the Paco shares, insisting on me investing an additional £12,000, whats got me on this is that the shares arrive via Fedex, the address they come from is the Oil company address in the USA, the phone number is identical to that on the documents from Paco (who I have been phoning but do not answer, nor do the bank telephone numbers answer!) anyway this week I had been keeping an eye on the share value and noticed that they fell by -$2.50 and are back at $0.50c each, so being fairly wound up by the fact that Anthony didnt listen to me and sell which I could have profited with +£17,000 when they were worth $3.00 each I tried to call him, NO SERVICE ON HIS NUMBER, so I went to the IMS website NO SERVICE JUST A MESSAGE THAT STATES NOT AVAILABLE, urh oh!!! I started doing some more checks on IMS, The building houses many small offices and small businesses, YET IMS do NOT appear in the Swiss yellow pages, I done a reverse search on the phone number, I ended up being on a website that offers swiss phonenumbers that re-route to any number anywhere in the world! the [email protected] email is linked to the IMS website it has the same IP Address, also the contact info@paco....... email does not work and bounces back as refused!!! (This is an international fraud on a very worldwide scale) am I right in guessing right? you have to admit that if it is it's very good infact amazing! how they used resources from around the globe etc, anyway enough praise on these scums, I was approached via a cold call out of the blue, the reason I didnt become sus on it is because I had looked at genuine stock/shares websites and companies in London, and I though that my info had been passed to IMS because the company in London said I didnt have enough funds to safely invest without causing hardship to myself, OTHERWISE I would not have responded to any of it, ((NOTICE - DID ANYONE ELSE DO THAT AS WELL? LET ME KNOW - I AM SEARCHING FOR THAT E-MAIL THEY SENT ME)) but thinking of that and the way I transffered the funds using a non withdraw account with diff name! on 2 seperate occassions, Anthony Marcus could not find the 1st payment I explained the account name and he later called back to say that it has been found, my share certs duly arrived via Fedex, I have had another so called company from switzerland ????? try to get me to buy into something else but I took my misses advice ((who has been very suspicious from the start - fair play to her)) and made out I had no more money to invest as I already work with IMS, IT WORKED TOO! saved my dosh there then, you state in your post about claiming somehow, I have come accross something about this claim thing if the scam is or was not mentioned on a particular UK site I will start my research again about this and get back to you, and others!
 
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I am losing my mind, please help me. Clearly I was way too deep into this without having a clue. Call me a fool, whatever, I was sucked in at a very vulnerable time (just completed my divorce etc)

I have invested a lot of money via IMS (Investors Management Services) into 3 companies:

1. Paco Oil & Gas2
2. Wildwood Management
3. American Alternative Energy

I have read through this thread and now realise I may have been conned out of everything.

Some questions for everyone on this thread.....

1. Can I get any money back whatsoever?

2. Who do I report this to
- City of LOndon police (operation Archway)
- embassy in Switzerland
- FSA in Switzerland

3. Would it help forming a group since there appears to be so many of us?

4. Has anyone tried to visit them in Zurich?>

5. Do the following people really exist - Aaron Burn, Anthony Marcus, Charity Newman?

6. They are still calling me, even today (e.g Aaron) as I haven't told them I know what's going on yet. What can I do to trap them ?

I am extremely depressed about this whole situation and have potentially lost most of my savings. PLEASE be gentle with me and let me know what I can do about this IF ANYTHING.

Many thanks in advance.

Annette P.

Annette,

Not to dent any illusions you have about getting money back or to depress you but i think we have no chance, Doubt if people really exist, for all we know some of us could be them spying on this site, i lost money i had to get married with and like many people here had the shares sussed by an external broker. I phoned IFA and they said that IMS had been registered as a company to trade with but it turned out it was a different IMS, which i think is common practise for these b£££tards. I tried to meet Anthony Marcus leading him in to thinking i was investing $400000 in Paco. Never heard tell him since. I phone a man in america IFA called Jim Daly and he more or less said we would get nothing. I am prepared to join you all in trying with Police etc but don't hold out much hope, and annette although we were foolish it doesn't mean we were stupid, just nieve and maybe greedy but still these b£££ards shouldn't be allowed get away with this.
 
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Chuckey, thanks for your posting. Can we talk on the phone - will send u a private message with my number. Br, Annette
 
WARNING - They are still active! Their new web-site is: w.imsinvestorsmanagementservices.com - even though the site states Switzeland the IP address of the site is indicating USA! - another bad vibe is that their site has no phone number, now understanding proper ways of running a business, (1) the last thing you do is change the web-site or business name, (2) all genuine business's will provide all contact details, eg Phone, Fax, Email etc, ALSO NOTE that the telephone number on the Paco Documents for the bank is incorrect! pop along to the Wells Fargo web site, search up the zip code, and the bank details will come up with a different phone number, I recently wrote to Wells Fargo acting as a client about to deposit into the account details given via IMS /PACO for some shares into Paco, I asked to verify the details belong to Paco Oil and Gas, however their reply is below:-

Wells Fargo Investments received your inquiry regarding a company for which it appears Wells Fargo Shareowner Services may be the transfer agent. As Wells Fargo Investments does not have access to this information, please re-direct your inquiry to Shareowner Services at 1-800-468-9716, Monday through Friday, 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. Central Time. You may also contact Shareowner Services via email at [email protected].

Thank you for your business and your continuing relationship with Wells Fargo.

Sincerely,

Steve B.
Wells Fargo Investments

Investment and Insurance Products:
Are NOT insured by the FDIC or any other government agency - Are NOT deposits of or guaranteed by the Bank or any Bank affiliate - May Lose Value

WellsTrade accounts are available through Wells Fargo Investments, LLC (member SIPC), a non-bank affiliate of Wells Fargo & Company.

View our Privacy Policy at wellsfargo.com/privacy/policy.jhtml

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If you have a question about your account, please sign on to your secure online banking session on wellsfargo.com, click the Sign On button and then select "Contact Us." If you are currently in "Messages & Alerts," and have another question about this subject, click on the "Reply" button. To ask a new question, click on "Contact Us."
 
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I have googled it and their checked their website. there is no activity on their website. The new quote for wildwood management corp is 4IO.F and is being traded at Frankfurt Stock Exchange.


QUOTE=Lee Shepherd;439159]Yes.

Have a look through this site or do your due diligence first.

Or simply google it.

Or, if in doubt go without.
[/QUOTE]

Interesting you mentioned Frankfurt because the original IMS website is (or was) on servers in Germany!
 
Paco Oil & Gas

I am losing my mind, please help me. Clearly I was way too deep into this without having a clue. Call me a fool, whatever, I was sucked in at a very vulnerable time (just completed my divorce etc)

I have invested a lot of money via IMS (Investors Management Services) into 3 companies:

1. Paco Oil & Gas2
2. Wildwood Management
3. American Alternative Energy

I have read through this thread and now realise I may have been conned out of everything.

Some questions for everyone on this thread.....

1. Can I get any money back whatsoever?

2. Who do I report this to
- City of LOndon police (operation Archway)
- embassy in Switzerland
- FSA in Switzerland

3. Would it help forming a group since there appears to be so many of us?

4. Has anyone tried to visit them in Zurich?>

5. Do the following people really exist - Aaron Burn, Anthony Marcus, Charity Newman?

6. They are still calling me, even today (e.g Aaron) as I haven't told them I know what's going on yet. What can I do to trap them ?

I am extremely depressed about this whole situation and have potentially lost most of my savings. PLEASE be gentle with me and let me know what I can do about this IF ANYTHING.

Many thanks in advance.

Annette P.

Hi Annette

Please try and calm down and stop panicking. Then you can start using those cunning, carny attributes that most ladys have correctly. My 101 year old grandmother had a couple of sayings that I swear by - "dont get mad get even" / "every dog has his day" / "knowledge is power".
Over the last 15 years I have gradually developed a relatively small portfolio of shares amounting to 250k. Up until now my portfolio has only consisted of U.K. shares.
However, recently I became involved in Paco Oil and Gas and suddenly my life turned upside down!
I dont know anything about IMS, Wildwood Management or American Alternative Energy but I do know about Paco Oil and Gas and an Asset Management Company based in Switzerland who introduced me to Paco.
The first and most important piece of advice I would offer you is tread very carefully, be extremely guarded on who you talk to and be prepared to start thinking out of the
box!
Did you contact IMS or did they contact you out of the blue? If the latter did they contact you by phone, email or letter?
Assuming you didnt know of IMS before, have you checked them out or contacted the FSA in Canary Wharf, London? The FSA have a register of authorised companies and individuals.
Did you make your investment direct to IMS or to the individual companies that you listed on your thread?
How did you make your payments? - via Voltrex in London / by cheque / wired direct to IMS or the individual companies?
I would advise you to not to let the people you are dealing with know that your alarm bells are starting to go off. Act as normal with them at the moment. Obviously, if they ask you to invest any further funds, then simply say "no thanks, not at the moment as I want to see how my initial investments progress" "Assuming I make a provit on these, then I am prepared to invest further in the future"
You need to let them think that you still believe in them and that you are wiling to part with some more money in the near future.
If they think that you are starting to smell a rat and the well may run dry then they will cut and run!
Hope this may be of some asistance and if you require any further help or advice then please come back to me.
All the best
Kind regards
from
KYLER
 
Hi Kyler, IMS contacted me originally. [ Aaron Burn??] I haven't really let on to them that i might know something is not quite right. My investments were made directly to the companies via IMS. I have contacted the FSA & the city of London Police. I will not obviously invest any more but would ask the question to sell Paco shares as they supposedly have made money. What do you think? They probably would evade the question and try to convince me to invest more money - like take a loan for example which i was very close to doing. Anyway let me know and kind regards Annette.
 
Hi all,

Many thanks to all who have posted here - you have helped me persuade my dad that Paco is a scam.
He has received cold calls from a person called James Morgan with a uk tel no 0870-626513 which we presume diverts. He suggested office at 100 Bond Street in New York.

Have done lots of searches but not found any links here.

Dad was amazed that after an initial call, he received documents following day from Paco couriered by DHL - costing them USD 30. A small outlay for USD 20K con!

Hope this additional info helps people track them down, or avoid them!
 
Hi Kyler, IMS contacted me originally. [ Aaron Burn??] I haven't really let on to them that i might know something is not quite right. My investments were made directly to the companies via IMS. I have contacted the FSA & the city of London Police. I will not obviously invest any more but would ask the question to sell Paco shares as they supposedly have made money. What do you think? They probably would evade the question and try to convince me to invest more money - like take a loan for example which i was very close to doing. Anyway let me know and kind regards Annette.

Hi Annette like you I have been duped from buying shares in paco, wildwood and american alternate energy, My contact was a guy called Mark katz (scum)i also had dealings with a Anthony Marcus (scum) like you I was in a vulnerable state in my life, I had been diagnosed with Cancer, my partner left me, i was made redundant If i wasn't such a strong minded individual then I could of easily given up (ok I did for a wee while) reading these post's i realise that I'm not stupid, these con scumbags are very clever..... I am here if anyone wants to message me and if anyones up for a crusade to see these people behind bars then please include me...
 
1st as you rightfully say this has to be reported everywhere including your local police as it is a criminal offence against you a UK subject, the rozzers will state that there is nothing UK law can do because it's being done from outside the UK, however this depends on many factors including the amounts involved that WOULD involve many specialist teams to go global on the recovery etc!!!!

Annette P, Problem here is they could be in this forum !! I have read your post and all I can say is everything is tracable!!!! I done alot of research before handing over a single penny, even had a friend police officer check with the Metropolitan Police Internet Fraud Dept, all came back OK (at the time) prob unaware then!! We need to report this at all levels including the mentioned and the US FBI, because everything done in this world now is traceable to someone! I had the Anthony Marcus or Mr ???? ((real name ^%&*$%)) ??? call me, I became more sus when I suggested to him that we sell the shares because they were at $3 each back last week, thinking I could make £17,000 profit from my £3,000 investment I was pushing to sell especially because Anthony wanted me to invest £12,000 into AATV, I told him what I wanted to do with the Paco shares cash them in take some desparate needed cash for myself, and reinvest the rest, but he became quite shirty saying "how can I earn money if you don't listen to me, (now I know what he meant) surely you can raise £12,000, can you raise it on credit cards, loans or re-mortgage" yep he said all that! anyway he kept straying off the subject of selling the Paco shares, insisting on me investing an additional £12,000, whats got me on this is that the shares arrive via Fedex, the address they come from is the Oil company address in the USA, the phone number is identical to that on the documents from Paco (who I have been phoning but do not answer, nor do the bank telephone numbers answer!) anyway this week I had been keeping an eye on the share value and noticed that they fell by -$2.50 and are back at $0.50c each, so being fairly wound up by the fact that Anthony didnt listen to me and sell which I could have profited with +£17,000 when they were worth $3.00 each I tried to call him, NO SERVICE ON HIS NUMBER, so I went to the IMS website NO SERVICE JUST A MESSAGE THAT STATES NOT AVAILABLE, urh oh!!! I started doing some more checks on IMS, The building houses many small offices and small businesses, YET IMS do NOT appear in the Swiss yellow pages, I done a reverse search on the phone number, I ended up being on a website that offers swiss phonenumbers that re-route to any number anywhere in the world! the [email protected] email is linked to the IMS website it has the same IP Address, also the contact info@paco....... email does not work and bounces back as refused!!! (This is an international fraud on a very worldwide scale) am I right in guessing right? you have to admit that if it is it's very good infact amazing! how they used resources from around the globe etc, anyway enough praise on these scums, I was approached via a cold call out of the blue, the reason I didnt become sus on it is because I had looked at genuine stock/shares websites and companies in London, and I though that my info had been passed to IMS because the company in London said I didnt have enough funds to safely invest without causing hardship to myself, OTHERWISE I would not have responded to any of it, ((NOTICE - DID ANYONE ELSE DO THAT AS WELL? LET ME KNOW - I AM SEARCHING FOR THAT E-MAIL THEY SENT ME)) but thinking of that and the way I transffered the funds using a non withdraw account with diff name! on 2 seperate occassions, Anthony Marcus could not find the 1st payment I explained the account name and he later called back to say that it has been found, my share certs duly arrived via Fedex, I have had another so called company from switzerland ????? try to get me to buy into something else but I took my misses advice ((who has been very suspicious from the start - fair play to her)) and made out I had no more money to invest as I already work with IMS, IT WORKED TOO! saved my dosh there then, you state in your post about claiming somehow, I have come accross something about this claim thing if the scam is or was not mentioned on a particular UK site I will start my research again about this and get back to you, and others!

Hi i also have been conned but would like to warn others i rec'd a call from another company in Switzerland who advised me that IMS were a reputable company and | was too listen to what my advisor told me.... they must be in on the scam as well there web site is [email protected]
the guy who advised that my shares were good and said he had done checks on this Mark katz was [email protected]... so please be aware...this scumbag also tried to get me to take a loan out...lets get them B******S
 
Paco Oil & Gas

Hi Kyler, IMS contacted me originally. [ Aaron Burn??] I haven't really let on to them that i might know something is not quite right. My investments were made directly to the companies via IMS. I have contacted the FSA & the city of London Police. I will not obviously invest any more but would ask the question to sell Paco shares as they supposedly have made money. What do you think? They probably would evade the question and try to convince me to invest more money - like take a loan for example which i was very close to doing. Anyway let me know and kind regards Annette.

Hi Annette

SELL! SELL! SELL!

If you dealt directly with the share issuing companies then presumably you are in possession of the share certificates in which case you dont have to involve IMS.
The last time I checked PAOG shares were at $3.25.
Use a local broker and get rid of the buggers quick!

Heaven forbid that you dont have the certificates then instruct IMS to sell asap and obviously dont listen to any crap they come out with!

Playing the markets isnt all doom and gloom and can be fun BUT if starting out you do need unbiased professional help.
I would like to offer you the following tips :-
By opening one of the following UK Bank accounts you gain access to investment advice :-
Barclays Premier Life Account / Citi Gold Curent Account / HSBC Premier Account.
Credit Suisse have an excellent private banking division.
You should check out these websites :-
barclayswealth.com / citibank.co.uk / credit-suisse.co.uk
Finally, some good Asset Management Companies for you to consider :-
gartmore.com / investec.com / schroders.com

Hope that helps and is of some assistance.
Take care and good luck!

Kind regards
from
KYLER
 
Hi i also have been conned but would like to warn others i rec'd a call from another company in Switzerland who advised me that IMS were a reputable company and | was too listen to what my advisor told me.... they must be in on the scam as well there web site is [email protected]
the guy who advised that my shares were good and said he had done checks on this Mark katz was [email protected]... so please be aware...this scumbag also tried to get me to take a loan out...lets get them B******S

found this on a yahoo search....Article Excerpt
BANGKOK, March 15 Asia Pulse - A dozen Australian investors have salvaged, after a three-year court battle, almost ,000 ($US314,720) from an illegal "boiler room" securities scam based in Thailand.

The funds, traced by authorities to a Bangkok bank account, were paid to the Australians earlier this year, their Thai lawyer revealed today.

Makes me think ims can be traced .....
 
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