Forexmospherian
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I use stops of an equivalent size and typically take a fraction of my risk as profit per trade. I have been doing so for some years making reasonable profits on my capital employed. The risk reward ratio myth need to be debunked once and for all. Nothing matters but profit however it is managed.
Hi Pieter
I would agree with you that profit is our main goal - ie we need to make a return on our capital that we find satisfactory and can also cover our labour costs of actually doing the work making the profit.
I think most retail traders would be very happy if they had say a $250K Capital account and made say 40 -50% per annum from it. The profit would easily cover their labour rate unless they were earning over say $100 per hour from alternative work
However the majority of retailers start off with under $5 or $10k and then look at making similar returns per annum on that capital. So on a $10k account making $5k would be looked upon as a good return - and they would be happy - however should they be ??
If they spend say 7 -10 hrs a week checking charts and studying etc - then the return works out at say over a 48 week year at say $11 - $13 per hr - so paying like a part time job - whilst risking your cash - is that good ??
Now if they spend say 15 -20 hrs a week - then really - they could be better off by sticking the money in the Building society - low returns but no risk and getting a part time job.
For me its all down to "efficiency" and therefore RR's are an important component.
For example a trade with a 50 pip stop and a 150 pip target - ie RR of approx 3 will take 1 - 2 days or even more on average. I can get a RR of 3 normally under 30 mins - so allowing me to be more efficient in growing my capital and therefore achieving 30 -50% returns a month on retail size accounts - rather than only achieving the same over 10 months or a year.
Surely that make sense - you would prefer to earn say $1000 per day then say $300 per day ?
Swing trading over a few days or weeks and similar proper investment trading is simply not efficient for a full time trader - unless he or she is lucky enough to have a large multi $100k or million plus capital account.
Taking a $10 k account up to say $1 million over 2 -5 years by compounding is simply not possible for 90% of experienced retail traders using their own money - even if they have a brilliant method or strategy - as some point between say 15 and 25 lots they will hit a "financial wall" and have problems with coping with large $5k plus losses.
This normally psyches traders out ( it did me and I have not revisited it - although if I had been 20 yrs younger - I would have done ;-) )
Hope this explains why RR's and efficiency are important for making money
Have a good week
Regards
F