EliteTrader VS Trade2win

Most 4rums have slowly died over the years due to the twatters and FB etc, many have closed their doors.

Back in 2008 this place used to be packed and actually hard to keep up with new posts, T2W is by all accounts still a thriving forum community by today's standards, even more so when you consider the limited membership base.
 
. . . If that's is the case, the T2W team probably has some theories for why the traffic is slowing - would T2W be able to share their thoughts on this?
Hi George,
Happily! There are three main reasons that I'm aware of (there may be more) - for the drop off in numbers and activity. . .

1.Social Media
As kinrinseditson rightly says, other social media - principally Twitter and Facebook - have become the default modus operandi for many people. They weren't around when community forums first appeared fifteen plus years ago. The only competition T2W had back then was from other specialist trading forums such as Elite.

2. Mobiles
With the advances in technology, more and more people just use their mobiles to access social media - and the reliance on desktop and laptops has dwindled. This has impacted forums like T2W heavily because the vBulletin software (that T2W uses) was created before smart phones and apps were around. This means that where we were once cutting edge - we're now playing catch-up. As you may have noticed, T2W isn't exactly mobile friendly!

3. It's All Been Said
The third reason is that ten to fifteen years ago, sites like T2W and Elite were the only places to go to interact with other people about trading. The questions people asked and the threads they started were new and couldn't (easily) be found elsewhere. For example, take this one of mine from 2004: A Trading Plan - You MUST Have One! This is the first paragraph of my OP: "On the 'General Trading Chat' forum there is a thread started by sun123 entitled 'Lost Trading'. In it, dbphoenix stressed the importance of having a trading plan. A quick search doesn't throw up any threads devoted to this important topic, so I thought I'd start one." (Note emphasis.) Back then, there were no trading plans. Now, there are any number of them to be found at every turn. The point being that 90% of what can be said about trading has been said here and elsewhere - often more than once. It's rare to see a new thread with an idea or approach that hasn't been discussed - often many times - before.

The above three factors combined have taken their toll on all community forums - not just T2W. However, we're still here, we still have much to offer and I hope we'll be around for a long time to come.
Tim.

PS. Forex!
Just thought of a 4th reason why T2W has witnessed a slow down in recent times: forex.

We've always been the place for new traders to start and, as such, we've deliberately never aligned ourselves to a particular market or style of trading, as that would not be in the members best interests. I've no idea what the stat's are for novices entering the market, but I wouldn't be surprised if upwards of 50% of them make a beeline for forex - without even considering indices, commodities and equities etc. With that (bad) decision made, these novice traders head straight for the likes of Forex Factory and Babypips - without ever giving T2W a look-in. Their loss - and ours - unfortunately.
 
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Thanks for this excellent (and prompt) answer Timsk - very appreciated!

Some of what you say definitely rings home with me too - I actively monitor my Twitter feed for breaking news and traders that i think that I can learn from - it's one of the first things I look at the start of each trading session.

And Facebook too - I participate in one FB group where we share charts and comments on a daily basis - though there are only 50 of us in the group. However a lot of us in the group have actually met in person one time or another.

It's also true that 10 years ago, there was a lot less material/content around, compared to today. I notice that many google searches on trading related questions do land right on T2W.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer Timsk.

(y)
 
Thanks for this excellent (and prompt) answer Timsk - very appreciated!

Some of what you say definitely rings home with me too - I actively monitor my Twitter feed for breaking news and traders that i think that I can learn from - it's one of the first things I look at the start of each trading session.

And Facebook too - I participate in one FB group where we share charts and comments on a daily basis - though there are only 50 of us in the group. However a lot of us in the group have actually met in person one time or another.

It's also true that 10 years ago, there was a lot less material/content around, compared to today. I notice that many google searches on trading related questions do land right on T2W.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer Timsk.

(y)

Hi George,

You might consider sending out an invite to your 50+ friends on our behalf.

Merry Christmas.
 
Will add another spin to this thread :

These are quotes from elitetrader forums :

Negative :

I am trying to figure out , he was sounding intelligent on T2W zoo

Tell us why it is funny!

Positive :

Is he back?
Must have got bored of talking to himself over at trade2win since he left ET. Nobody seemed to be buying it.
Trade2win memebrship demand proof/realtime calls much more than here and don't seem to be so easily fooled.
 
Futures.io forums - big mike - arent bad for futures traders ...
 
Went to sign up with ET to check it out.

For verification: it's asking me a question...


A popular professional football team in the United States is called the Dallas ________.

Please answer the question...



Obvious sign the site is not for me. WTH are Dallas ???? and who cares for US football? I'm sure some bright spark admin thinks that's a real cool question but it is about as dumb as it gets. (n)


Not my cup of tea. Stick to T2W for best crowd discussion on trading. (y)

... and other more relaxed debates and stuff too :cool:
 
Went to sign up with ET to check it out.

For verification: it's asking me a question...


A popular professional football team in the United States is called the Dallas ________.

Please answer the question...



Obvious sign the site is not for me. WTH are Dallas ???? and who cares for US football? I'm sure some bright spark admin thinks that's a real cool question but it is about as dumb as it gets. (n)


Not my cup of tea. Stick to T2W for best crowd discussion on trading. (y)

... and other more relaxed debates and stuff too :cool:

Probably just checking you're not a robot. You're not a robot right?
 
Went to sign up with ET to check it out.

For verification: it's asking me a question...


A popular professional football team in the United States is called the Dallas ________.

Please answer the question...



Obvious sign the site is not for me. WTH are Dallas ???? and who cares for US football? I'm sure some bright spark admin thinks that's a real cool question but it is about as dumb as it gets. (n)


Not my cup of tea. Stick to T2W for best crowd discussion on trading. (y)

... and other more relaxed debates and stuff too :cool:

Just stick to the zoo :LOL:
 
Many good info in all forums don't have to choose ...
 
Timsk said it best...

When volatility dies down so does the conversation. Other forums since the thread started Forex Factory and Futures.io (formerly BMT). Also almost every broker has their own forums. If a guy gets banned on these forums he can just start his own Twitter feed and traders use other social medias.

And there are just so many topics, most of them are already covered to death...

In short, the forum marketplace is over saturated...
 
Timsk said it best...

When volatility dies down so does the conversation. Other forums since the thread started Forex Factory and Futures.io (formerly BMT). Also almost every broker has their own forums. If a guy gets banned on these forums he can just start his own Twitter feed and traders use other social medias.

And there are just so many topics, most of them are already covered to death...

In short, the forum marketplace is over saturated...




Good sites and regular members arn't though.

Thank goodness for T2W :drunk:
 
Well you won't find a "grumpy old gits" thread or a "toyz for the boyz" thread. ET may have more prima donnas, but the users here are anti-capitalist and socialist. Maybe that is a location specific quality. T2W is in Europe somewhere based upon the timestamps. ET is in the US. Vive the capitalism. :clap:
 
Said to Mr Tim the other day the site is Coming of Age.

Leaving ETwats, Facecook and Twatter in the past.

 
....the users here are anti-capitalist and socialist

Some may be but that is not the case for most in my view and in any case trading is capitalist by its nature.
 
Some may be but that is not the case for most in my view and in any case trading is capitalist by its nature.
hhiusa appears to have his own extreme definition for capitalism and socialism in which a true capitalist is completely devoid of any social conscience whatsoever. S/he only cares about numero uno and doesn't give a monkey's toss for anyone else. Ever! Fortunately, he is in a minority of one (here on T2W anyway), as there are many members who regard themselves as capitalists, have right wing views and always vote Tory etc. but, critically, they also have compassion and understand that there are others less fortunate than themselves who - through no fault of their own (e.g. refugees from Syria) need and deserve their help and support.
Tim.
 
hhiusa appears to have his own extreme definition for capitalism and socialism in which a true capitalist is completely devoid of any social conscience whatsoever. S/he only cares about numero uno and doesn't give a monkey's toss for anyone else. Ever! Fortunately, he is in a minority of one (here on T2W anyway), as there are many members who regard themselves as capitalists, have right wing views and always vote Tory etc. but, critically, they also have compassion and understand that there are others less fortunate than themselves who - through no fault of their own (e.g. refugees from Syria) need and deserve their help and support.
Tim.

Yes he is One seriously misguided individual. It's not his fault entirely, as the system he operates under and is taught to accept, is unfortunately fatally flawed. More people, including the masses in the western world are coming to realise it, hence the Brexit vote and election of Trump.

A good place to start.

 
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