Difference between trading and gambling

people often compare trading to gambling, they are not the same!
Do you care? Does it make any difference?

Except for some table games like blackjack the biggest difference between trading and gambling is that previous results have NO effect, unlike in trading.
You’re kidding.

While I don’t accept your basis for differentiation (any differentiation for that matter), there is significant evidence to link past trading performance with subsequent trading activity exactly as there is with gamblers in the more ‘traditional’ forms of gambling.
 
have you been to a casino and played roulette? slanted towards black wtf? goes black red black red black red on the wheel how could it possibly be slanted..

your clearly not understanding this whole concept! casino's wet dream you are
 
Do you care? Does it make any difference?

You’re kidding.

While I don’t accept your basis for differentiation (any differentiation for that matter), there is significant evidence to link past trading performance with subsequent trading activity exactly as there is with gamblers in the more ‘traditional’ forms of gambling.

which traditional forms exactly
 
No I'm inclined to think that if anything the wheel is slanted towards black. That doesn't mean I would expect to win at a casino. But consider the following:

You have a game, and you have no idea what the probabilities are, because you haven't tested them. And every time you play, it comes up black. Or it comes up black 9 times out of 10. Now forgetting what you've been told about roulette or anything else...what would you gamble on if you had to?

I'd gamble on the fact that you would bet black :)
 
Are the outcomes of rolls of the dice random , and are major moves in the market based on fundamental changes non random,and is outcome predetermined?
 
Any investment in an event or activity of uncertain outcome in the hope of profit is gambling. The failure to accept this is the reason why so many people find business / trading / investment losses so hard to live with. They reason that, as they are not gambling, or so they believe, they could not be subject to seemingly unforeseeable failures and losses. They find these losses psychologically hurtful and damaging, to the extent that they are unable to carry on the activity with any objectivity. On the other hand, many people view un-earned profit, or profit from a random event, as being undeserved and, to a degree, of lower value than money honestly earned through work and application. This does not help their sense of purpose, self-worth and money management.

And so they fail.

There is no point kidding yourself that as an investor / trader / entrepeneur / property speculator or whatever you are not gambling - you are, and the failure to perceive this reality will undermine how you deal with the bad times.
 
tbh im not really sure what your getting at! perhaps you could explain it again
You asked me to define 'traditional' forms of gambling. I did.

Your OP was regarding the difference (if any) between gambling and trading. The discussion has subsequently veered off down a very specific and totally unrelated avenue regarding bias in roulette tables. You’ve suggested we ‘agree to disagree’ on something. What?
 
You asked me to define 'traditional' forms of gambling. I did.

Your OP was regarding the difference (if any) between gambling and trading. The discussion has subsequently veered off down a very specific and totally unrelated avenue regarding bias in roulette tables. You’ve suggested we ‘agree to disagree’ on something. What?

bit of a pedantic see you next Tuesday arnt you

and "exactly as there is with gamblers in the more ‘traditional’ forms of gambling." is what we agree to disagree on.
 
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also for all those people saying markets cant be predicted, you actually can quite easily predict where and when a market will move to (i used to post alot of these and often got it to the tick) i don't believe markets to be random
 
Your OP suggested gambling and trading were different because “previous results [in gambling] have NO effect, unlike in trading”. The rest of the thread developed into a discussion into the psychological aspects of expectations, assessment of probabilities of results and on the influence that those expectations of results have on subsequent activity. I suggested the outcome of previous gambles/trades on the gambler/trader has a very similar influence on the subsequent actions of the gambler/trader.

As a side issue, my personal view is that there is less to differentiate the apparent rationale between each of these activities than is generally believed. There is little to confirm trading; be it fundamental or technical, having much of an edge, if any, over selection of the 4 dog on form alone or because it ‘looks fit’ or over the situational and experiential awareness a horse trainer-owner has at any given meeting. But that doesn’t seem to have had much discussion and was I imagined the primary intent of this thread.
 
Has anyone now found themselves (bizzarely?) drawn to Poker for the first time after finding consistent success with trading?
 
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