Darwinex Zero

[CavaliereVerde]

@IlIlIlIlI
Are you investing any 4 character darwins (coming from dzero) with real money?
I don't think so, the point is helping Darwinex to find more dreamers pocketing a slice of the cake.
Nothing bad but pure marketing, I dont' think dzero is producing or will produce any alpha for investors.

 

[IlIlIlIlI]

@IlIlIlIlI
Are you investing any 4 character darwins (coming from dzero) with real money?
I don't think so, the point is helping Darwinex to find more dreamers pocketing a slice of the cake.
Nothing bad but pure marketing, I dont' think dzero is producing or will produce any alpha for investors.

No, as I cannot invest in my own Darwin - our DZero Darwin is new and plays in DarwinIA SILVER for a while (at least another 7 months if the rules are not / will not be changed).
Maybe I should publish it.

My new Demo portfolio is built in its first setup with 4 Darwins originally from DZero and 2 from Darwinex Classic.
I will publish it in the next days, maybe tonight if I have time for it.

As far as I watched it, Darwinex attracted some traders with a nice track record for DZero.
The one or the other moved to Darwinex Classic after they started with DZero, for sure to save the monthly fees as there is no guaranteed allocation anymore in DarwinIA GOLD.

 

[CavaliereVerde]

4 digit darwins are doing pretty well in Darwinia.
Common factors for all of them:

1. short trackrecord
2. unrealistic return chart

Red flags for any decent investor.
Old Darwinia was prizing decent traders, new one is prizing lucky monkeys subcribing a demo contest.

 

[CavaliereVerde]

No, as I cannot invest in my own Darwin

A guy inventing his own darwin is not a true investor, everyone thinks to be alpha.
The dzero ecosystem is generating a huge amount of haystack that is making even more difficult to find the needle.

 

[IlIlIlIlI]

A guy inventing his own darwin is not a true investor, everyone thinks to be alpha.
The dzero ecosystem is generating a huge amount of haystack that is making even more difficult to find the needle.

It makes sense to invest in the own Darwin with a leveraged portfolio as long as the VaR is not too high.
That makes more profit than adding the money to the trading account and increase the lotsize according to the new balance.

4 digit darwins are doing pretty well in Darwinia.
Common factors for all of them:

1. short trackrecord
2. unrealistic return chart

Red flags for any decent investor.
Old Darwinia was prizing decent traders, new one is prizing lucky monkeys subcribing a demo contest.

The problem with the long track record is that the majority of traders are not able to react appropriate on long term changes of the market conditions.
Fixed strategies have a life cycle where they can be profitable for logical reasons - liquidity providers always make money, otherwise their department will be closed.
Old DarwinIA was a lottery with a high competition factor between traders, DarwinIA GOLD still has this factor included.
There is a reasonable selection for 4 digit Darwins before they reach DarwinIA GOLD as investable Darwin:
at least 20% profit in their first year with a return / DD factor of minimum 2.5 .
The rest of the DZero Darwins is invisble for investors.

 

[CavaliereVerde]

There is a reasonable selection for 4 digit Darwins before they reach DarwinIA GOLD as investable Darwin:

So you can select 3-5 of them and create a real money portfolio.
Maybe you are right a a dzero trader is more reactive to the market.
If you are right your portfolio will be in profit after one year.

I think exacltly the opposite, no dzero darwin is investable, a true trader would be able to do the math like @FXforfun and @joyny in the first page of this discussion.

 

[IlIlIlIlI]

So you can select 3-5 of them and create a real money portfolio.
Maybe you are right a a dzero trader is more reactive to the market.
If you are right your portfolio will be in profit after one year.

I think exacltly the opposite, no dzero darwins are investable, a true trader would be able to do the math like @FXforfun and @joyny in the first page of this discussion.

The special problem of a real money portfolios with foreign Darwins is that the German authorities set a cap of 20k to the total of all losing trades and you have to pay taxes for all winning trades deducted by the smaller number of the total of all losing trades or the cap of 20k.
That valid since 2021.
As long as Darwinex has to write every single trade in the tax report and does not offer the same information for a Darwin, an investment in foreign Darwins could be an expensive blackbox for German taxpayers.
You also don't get the trades with a demo portfolio to protect the intellectual property of the trader.

The demo portfolio is published now - we'll see whether its Darwins will perform well.

 

[CavaliereVerde]

20k of winning or losing trades is pretty huge.
My real portfolio is 2k (700 at x3).
That cap will matter when you will be investing for a living, atm I think no private investor is going that big.

 

[IlIlIlIlI]

20k of winning or losing trades is pretty huge.
My real portfolio is 2k (700 at x3).
That cap will matter when you will be investing for a living, atm I think no private investor is going that big.

That depends on the trading frequency of the Darwins.
With 2,000 losing trades with an average loss of 10 EUR the cap is reached.
That's only 8 trades per trading with a small loss day if you trade daily, regardless how much profit was made.
And the 20k are counted over all accounts held where derivative instruments (Forex, CFDs, Options, Futures etc.) are traded by the same taxpayer.

Darwinex could hypothetically solve this specific German issue if a Darwin would be a real independent financial asset where only the profit is taxed after selling, and not a collection of Forex and CFD trades - bute they don't (or can't).

 

[Enda Trading]

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[trilobite]

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Key features:

• Instant Access to Capital: Activate a €100,000 allocation instantly upon payment of €1,045 / $1130.
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[IlIlIlIlI]

If you buy a permanent allocation, you will get for (D-Zero is a 100k USD account):

You need about an additional 1 % per month to pay the monthly fee.
So if you make more than 2 % per month / 25 % per year you will be able to take profit from the permanent allocation after at least 1 year. Usually it would take significantly much more than a year for most of the Darwins.

If the trader makes more than 25% per year the Darwin will usually trade in DarwinIA GOLD, depending on its drawdown.

There a permanent allocation could make sense as there is no guaranteed allocation anymore and the fees are to pay every month until the trader switches the accoun t to Darwinex Classic.

As the only condition to lose the allocation is to restart the D-Zero Darwin, the permant allocation should stay if a trader switches to Darwinex Classic, but I didn't find it written anywhere.

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