look F .............if I trade 800,000 times a day with negligible spreads I cant lose ?
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/VirtuOverview.pdf
Morning N
First question here ........ do they do a $99 or an expensive $299 bot version - lol
Going to have to read that report a couple of times to get my head all around it - but fascinating stuff - with incredible results
Only one losing day in 1278 trading days makes me realise I am rubbish lol
Win stats are so similar to what I have seen over my 16k + trades - ie pure proper clear wins just over 52% - but with break even minor gains approx 25% and proper losses 23% - I have had batches of 100 trades with 87% win ratio ( counting scratch results ) and then bad results of only 61/2% win ratio on 100 trades when maybe even 15% of those wins have been just over break even.
But their key is the diminishing rate of losses based on the high number of trades they get out - although I think over 100k of trades a day and as high a 800k is a bit of over trading ( rofl )
My model basically says as long as I can do over 15 -20 trades in the main 12 hrs of the 24 hr day - I should not lose - but as the advantage over HFT of leaving trades on at lower stake size with stops in profit - that is the cream on the cake
Thinking about it - say 16 trades - 8+ should make over 5 pips and out of those with stakes left on maybe 20% go on to over 25 pips or more ( like yesterday afternoon - cracker). The other 7 or 8 trades - half will be scatch - minus 1 pip or 1 pip win and then 1 -4 losses of under 5 pips.
So typical F model - 8 -10 wins of total - 40 to 200+ pips ( all pips over say 80 would be on lower stake sizes with stops already in profit ) - 1 to 4 losses of 5 to maximum 20 pips - and then a few trades of scratch wins.
Results - an exceptional poor day with 16 trades - maybe only 20 pips - with say over 4 losses and no real good scalps and no good 30% trades
Average day - easy over 50 pips - maybe 60 - 90 pips counting the 30% stuff in the double count ( ie 12 pip scalp and 32 pip on 30% then 12 pips double counted )
Good day - 120 -400 pips - but might need over 16 trades - say up to 25 and less than 3 or 4 losses
Thats my model - not in same league as Virtu - but there again not spent multi millions developing it
If it Ok with you would like to borrow some of the info off the report to copy onto my other thread - as an example of a HFT model
Cheers - all the best - maybe only go for a 1000 trades on Monday for a start
Regards
F