Boiler Room Scams

Re: Guardmann Escrow Services S. A.

kenmar 1952 said:
Offices in Panama, Hongkong & 29 Harley Street, London. Website registered 23rd March 09.
I would say this is a dodgy company.
Why do you ask?
What have you been offered that involves an Escrow company?
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Hi - complicated, when I know more I will post but Guardmann Escrow (Harley Street NOT?) and Mitschka Alternative Advisory are, it seems, one and the same. As I say I will post more when I know more.

Stay away from these. :eek::eek:
 
Hi,

Thomas Moore, Tokyo ... They have taken over $850 000 from me over a six month period.

They assured me that I am invested into 310 000 shares of HTE, nyse.

I have asked repeatedly for them to release my funds but they say I need to hold 500 000 shares in HTE before the "block" can be sold.

Does anyone have any information on Thomas Moore Global ... Is it possible that I have lost everything.

Please help
 
Does anyone have any information on Thomas Moore Global ... Is it possible that I have lost everything.

Please help[/QUOTE]

Actually no, it is still possible for you to lose even more.

The next phase in the scam is for Thomas Moore Global or another scammer to call you up and say they can exchange these shares for others or have them derestricted for you so that you can sell them. They will ask you to send them an advance fee for this, when they recieve it they will steal that as well and then probably disappear. Look at the facts about this 'company'

1 They are banned in Switzerland http://www.swissmoney.net/brief5.htm
2 They are banned in Australia http://www.fido.asic.gov.au/fido/fido.nsf/byheadline/Cold-calling-blacklist-T?openDocument
3 They are mentioned elsewhere as being a boiler room http://twitter.com/sharescams
4 I cant speak Japanese but I reckon if I did I could probably turn up evidence that they are banned in Japan too.
5 Read the following scarily similar tale of woe, including the second part of the scam (advance fee) http://www.trade2win.com/boards/first-steps/72602-royal-petroleum-corp.html

You should also be aware that some of these criminals monitor these boards and have in the past posted positive reviews of some of these scams, therefore if someone PMs you and says they can sort it out you should ignore them.

If you dont believe any of this then you should call a proper broker, like Barclays or someone and ask them to sell the shares for you. At least then you will have a definitive answer.
 
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totalidiot said:
Hi,

Thomas Moore, Tokyo ... They have taken over $850 000 from me over a six month period.

They assured me that I am invested into 310 000 shares of HTE, nyse.

I have asked repeatedly for them to release my funds but they say I need to hold 500 000 shares in HTE before the "block" can be sold.

Does anyone have any information on Thomas Moore Global ... Is it possible that I have lost everything.

Please help
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It would be nice to think you got 310000 HTE shares for $850,000. They are currently $9.41 each which means you are worth $2,917,100!! Why you would have to hold 500000 before you can sell is beyond me. Obviously a scam, I can't believe you got suckered for so much! You are a bigger player than me. You could try to find out from the registrar(is there one in USA?) if you actually own any of these shares, I assume you have no certificates. You only need 90000 to break even.
Best of luck.
Do let us know how you get on, though to be honest I will not be holding my breath!
 
totalidiot said:
Hi,

Thomas Moore, Tokyo ... They have taken over $850 000 from me over a six month period.

They assured me that I am invested into 310 000 shares of HTE, nyse.

I have asked repeatedly for them to release my funds but they say I need to hold 500 000 shares in HTE before the "block" can be sold.

Does anyone have any information on Thomas Moore Global ... Is it possible that I have lost everything.

Please help
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Sorry, call me a cynic, but I just don't believe it.

If this story is true, you should definitely contact me. I will do a full due-diligence report on any company you come in contact with for you for 50 GBP. I'll tell you right now that I would guess that 99% of the reports will have the same results - "SCAM", but how many reports could I do for $850K?!?! 50 GBP and a five minute phone call could save you $100´s of K's.

Anytime I see a post like this it really gets my goat! I know of at least 10 properties that could be developed and sold at a discount and still make 150% ROE, eliminating market risk - but people throw their money away! Real prosperity will come from exponential growth, not overnight gains.

Just a few people off this board could set up an SPV/Property Syndicate. Start with a small project of $300K. 3-4 projects a year for 5 years. In 5 years, using exponential growth you can grow $300K into $2-3M. Why invest in these garbage OTC stocks with restrictions, no volume and no future???
 
totalidiot said:
Hi,

Thomas Moore, Tokyo ... They have taken over $850 000 from me over a six month period.

They assured me that I am invested into 310 000 shares of HTE, nyse.

I have asked repeatedly for them to release my funds but they say I need to hold 500 000 shares in HTE before the "block" can be sold.

Does anyone have any information on Thomas Moore Global ... Is it possible that I have lost everything.

Please help
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Who have taken your money? Who have you been dealin:rolleyes:g with? Is it Mitschka Alternative Advisory/Guardmann Escrow Services.
 
Whichypoohs said:
Who have taken your money? Who have you been dealin:rolleyes:g with? Is it Mitschka Alternative Advisory/Guardmann Escrow Services.
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Thanks Whichpoohs, TMG story sounds like this could be a diversion. The story is hard to believe, especially if he is just finding out now. If it is true, I can see why 2008 was a record breaking year for the boiler rooms.

TMG is an old scam and it looks like Mitschka Alternative Advisory/Guardmann Escrow Services (Harley St. London), Stratton Wainwright Advisory, Bio Defense Corporation, an American company, are the current scams. The old scams have been well posted but their may still be a few fish in the sea that want to part with 5-40 quid or more with the new current scams until they become well posted.

Where is Bio Defense located?
 
Unfortunately the TMG story is true ... The money "invested" was 850k over a 9 month period into 6 companies, each one rolling over into the next with the "profit" plus additional funds.

From what I am reading it looks like I have lost my money.
 
totalidiot said:
Unfortunately the TMG story is true ... The money "invested" was 850k over a 9 month period into 6 companies, each one rolling over into the next with the "profit" plus additional funds.

From what I am reading it looks like I have lost my money.
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Well then contact me. You should still have a couple hundred $K liquid to invest. I'll help you open a Special Purpose Company in the correct jurisdiction and company structure with bank accounts in your control. Invest in properties in which values endure tough times and profit tremendously in growth cycles and you could eliminate your losses and be making profits in 2 years. Pay me a very small fee upfront and a regular back-end commission on profits only and I will do all the leg work.

I am sure someone from another boiler room will make you a similar offer, except you should note carefully the major difference is that I would have you put the money in accounts that you control. A boiler room would definitely want you to "invest" the money in their accounts.

This is one thing I never understand about the people who work the scams. The hardest part of doing business is the initial contact and building a relationship. Why put all that work into it and then disappear? With someone who invests $850K, I could do just 4 or 5 deals a annually over a couple years and make more money the legit way. Plus I would get repeat business, referral business and create a network through win-win situations. Not only do I make more money, but my job is a heck of lot easier. Not to mention feeling good about myself, making friends, not running from the authorities, having a clean conscious, feeling proud of my abilities... etc. Doesn't this make better business sense?

TI, if you lost $850K to boiler rooms, you need help. It will take hard-work, focus and commitment along with experience which I can offer to you for a fraction of $850K!

I'm sure you have your doubts (I can't wait to see how many names people call me for posting this). I understand 100% as well, I also don't believe that you could lose $850K to these idiots (the real idiots, because I have said several times that I don't think anyone who gets taken in by these scams are stupid, the scams are complicated at times and prey on good people - that's a tough combination).
 
Hi,

Pboyles is spot on why would a company cold call to sell a large number of shares, dont even consider it .

Cheers


Phil
 
It's just pocket change. I always give away a million $ to people I don't know.

So where is Bio Defense located?
 
Shares were being sold by Fitzgerald Brown and Stratton Wainwright Advisory, both boiler rooms. Biodefense Corp are based at 12 Channel Street, Boston, MA 02210 which seems to be a serviced or virtual office as many other businesses are located there.

http://twitter.com/sharescams
 
pboyles said:
Shares were being sold by Fitzgerald Brown and Stratton Wainwright Advisory, both boiler rooms. Biodefense Corp are based at 12 Channel Street, Boston, MA 02210 which seems to be a serviced or virtual office as many other businesses are located there.

http://twitter.com/sharescams
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12 Channel Street is just the building, thats why there are so many other companies listed at the address. It is an old run down and ugly building in the middle of an industrial park. Probably not the best location for a company that is about to change the world with their state-of-the-art technology.

The company that is being sold is usually the "legit" part, it would be the "Advisory" that would use the virtual office (by the way nice touch on Stratton Wainwright to put themselves on Stratton St., London!). Although in this case, I believe Biodefense is not listed yet??? If that is the case, who knows, the whole thing could be b.s.
 
Energy Group International, Crosslands Corporation

Phone call from Thomas Collins to my mobile from Bahamas. Do not know how he got my mob no as I do not give this out to these types. Claims to have offered me Talisman Energy in the past at $6.42 which I didn't buy and they got out off at $16, currently $17. Vague memories.
Now offering Crosslands Corporation (CRDY).They manufacture some magic device which increases energy delivery eficiency from 3% to 65%! All to do with the Smart Grid which Obama has apparently put $3.4Billion in to, and he claims they have contract in various countries including Australia. Had a look at the company on Pink Sheets. Changed their name from Casino Management of America in 11-2009. Shares reduced by 1:1000 in July. Turns out they were taken over by Casino, & actually has been around for a while. Company may be legit but....?
Passed to "senior advisor" James Spencer. He said shares started at 12c and currently $1.35 on the public market, but he could offer me "preference" shares @ $1.10(restricted for 1 year). Told him I do not do restricted shares so he offered to sell me public shares at $1.35. I told him restricted shares were for institutional investors and he should not be selling to individuals, and he hung up.
Enough said about Energy Corp, make your own decision about Crosslands
 
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