Just incase anyone is interested on how to get information about these criminals. As I've said before the UK police are a waste of time and protect the poor thieves from victims. Below is an FOI request on Boiler rooms associated with my fraud. Look particularly the way they saved the criminals personal information from being revealed..They consider boiler room bank accounts as personal information!!!!
Here it is people.Victims read it and weep.
Thank you for your recent request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 which was received in this office on the 27th August 2013.
Section 1 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA) places two duties on public authorities. Unless exemptions apply, the first duty at, Section 1(1) (a), is to confirm or deny whether the information specified in a request is held. The second duty at, Section1 (1) (b), is to disclose information that has been confirmed as being held.
Under the provisions of those sections of FOIA, I can confirm that information you requested is held by Gwent Police for the below questions but we are only able to partially comply with your request to supply information.
The information that you are seeking is in relation to the following:
I am requesting information on the Lyndon Clive Gibbs Fraud and money laundering case. This was handled by DC Palmer. of Gwent Police FIU.
Q1. Firstly When the fraud was first discovered in December bank accounts were then known to the police in :
Barcelona
Cyprus
Marbella
Brussels
Please supply bank details and account numbers including beneficiaries names and addresses and all other relevant information on these accounts.
A1. The exemption applicable to the information you have requested for this question can be found at:
Section 30 - Investigations and Proceedings conducted by the Public Authority
Section 38 - Health & Safety
Section 31 - Law Enforcement
Section 40 - Personal Information
and this refusal notice is issued under Section 17.
Section 30 Public Interest Considerations
Factors favouring disclosure
Disclosure would enhance the public’s knowledge about how information relating to this type of case is used by the Constabulary and how the intelligence received assists in day to day investigations and operations to assist with the prevention and detection of crime; the apprehension and prosecution of offenders and the administration of justice.
Disclosure would also assist in stopping any incorrect rumours or falsehoods relating to how the police manage this type of case.
Factors favouring non-disclosure
Disclosure of the information requested could identify intelligence required for the investigation of a crime within the force area. This would allow individuals to analyse the information and identify the focus of police activity, enabling those committing crime to move their operations, destroy evidence or go ‘underground’. This would hinder the prevention and detection of crime and consequently, the force’s law enforcement capabilities would be affected.
Section 38(1) Health & Safety
The release of the information requested could endanger the physical health of individuals concerned.
The release of information will also reveal policing tactics regarding these individuals.
Public interest considerations favouring disclosure
The release of such information would provide an insight into the Home Office and Police Service and enable the public to have better understanding of the effectiveness of the police. The release of information could allow the public to make informed decisions about the police. This would greatly assist in the quality and accuracy of public debate, which is otherwise likely to be based on speculation and conjecture.
Public interest considerations favouring non-disclosure
Revealing this information would increase the risk to personal protection not only of the individual but also to potential witnesses. The majority of the public would not wish to place these individuals in a more hazardous position by publishing information that would enable harm to be brought to them or their families.
The threat to safety is not just to the recipient but also to others. Any attempt to threaten the life of one of these individuals would also threaten the health and safety of those in the vicinity.
All people are entitled to live and work without a threat of violence directed against them. It is not in the public interest for these individuals to be placed in position of vulnerability by disclosing this level of information.
Section 31 Law Enforcement
The Police Service is charged with enforcing the law, preventing and detecting crime and protecting the communities we serve. Modern-day policing is intelligence led and in this particular subject area the intelligence changes on a day-by-day basis
Disclosure of the requested information would reveal current intelligence which has the potential to seriously undermine effective law enforcement. This would frustrate the prevention and detection of crime in that it may interfere with tactics to manage crime in this area.
Factors favouring Disclosure for Section 31
Disclosure of these details would provide a better awareness which may reduce crime or lead to more information from the public.
Factors favouring Non-Disclosure for Section 31
Disclosure of this information would hinder the prevention or detection of crime by revealing police intelligence, and consequently law enforcement tactics would be compromised. More crime would be committed which would impact on police resources, and place individuals at risk.
Section 40
Gwent Police is withholding the information you have requested on the basis that the exemption contained in s 40(2) of the Freedom of Information Act applies in that the information you have requested is personal data of third parties and the disclosure of the data would breach one of the principles contained in the Data Protection Act. The relevant principle is the first principle which states that:
Personal data shall be processed fairly and lawfully and in particular shall not be processed unless -
(a) at least one of the conditions in Schedule 2 is met and
(b) in the case of sensitive personal data, at least one of the conditions in Schedule 3 is met
It is only necessary to consider (a) in respect of the information requested. The relevant condition in Schedule 2 is condition 6 which states that:
"The processing is necessary for the purposes of legitimate interests pursued by the data controller or by the third party or parties to whom the data are disclosed, except where the processing is unwarranted in any particular case by reason of prejudice to the rights and freedoms or legitimate interests of the data subject"
Balance Test
The investigation you have requested information for, is still on-going.
The Police Service is charged with enforcing the law, preventing and detecting crime and protecting the communities we serve and there is a public interest in the transparency of policing operations to ensure investigations are conducted appropriately.
Modern-day policing is intelligence led and the Police Service share information with other law enforcement agencies as part of their intelligence gathering process. To disclose the requested information would hinder the prevention and detection of crimes and undermine the partnership approach to investigations and law enforcement in relation to this case. Gwent Police will not disclose information whilst there is an on-going investigation. Therefore, it is our opinion that for these issues the balance test lies in favour of exempting the information at this time.
Q2. What alerts were given to the public concerning this fraud that was on-going.
A2. Alerts of this nature are the responsibility of the Financial Conduct Authority (then Financial Services Authority), with whom we liaised from the outset via the witness statement department (who provided the statement that Investment Administration Ltd and Gibbs were not authorised).
We contacted all identified investors at the time of that enquiry.
Q3. What alerts were given to any anti-fraud organizations in UK or elsewhere.
A3. None.
Q4. In court a Dean Thomas was implicated in the fraud and is now abroad (on the run):
(a) Please supply information concerning this thief i.e., Where is he from?
(b) Where was he when Gibbs home was raided? Where was he when Gibbs telephoned him to tell of the raid?
(c) Where do police believe he is now?
(d) What was his occupation?
(e) Gibbs was employed by him, what at and where?
A4. The exemption applicable to the information you have requested for this question can be found at:
Section 30 - Investigations and Proceedings conducted by the Public Authority
Section 38 - Health & Safety
Section 31 - Law Enforcement
Section 40 - Personal Information
and this refusal notice is issued under Section 17.
Section 30 Public Interest Considerations
Factors favouring disclosure
Disclosure would enhance the public’s knowledge about how information relating to this type of case is used by the Constabulary and how the intelligence received assists in day to day investigations and operations to assist with the prevention and detection of crime; the apprehension and prosecution of offenders and the administration of justice.
Disclosure would also assist in stopping any incorrect rumours or falsehoods relating to how the police manage this type of case.
Factors favouring non-disclosure
Disclosure of the information requested could identify intelligence required for the investigation of a crime within the force area. This would allow individuals to analyse the information and identify the focus of police activity, enabling those committing crime to move their operations, destroy evidence or go ‘underground’. This would hinder the prevention and detection of crime and consequently, the force’s law enforcement capabilities would be affected.
Section 38(1) Health & Safety
The release of the information requested could endanger the physical health of individuals concerned.
The release of information will also reveal policing tactics regarding these individuals.
Public interest considerations favouring disclosure
The release of such information would provide an insight into the Home Office and Police Service and enable the public to have better understanding of the effectiveness of the police. The release of information could allow the public to make informed decisions about the police. This would greatly assist in the quality and accuracy of public debate, which is otherwise likely to be based on speculation and conjecture.
Public interest considerations favouring non-disclosure
Revealing this information would increase the risk to personal protection not only of the individual but also to potential witnesses. The majority of the public would not wish to place these individuals in a more hazardous position by publishing information that would enable harm to be brought to them or their families.
The threat to safety is not just to the recipient but also to others. Any attempt to threaten the life of one of these individuals would also threaten the health and safety of those in the vicinity.
All people are entitled to live and work without a threat of violence directed against them. It is not in the public interest for these individuals to be placed in position of vulnerability by disclosing this level of information.
Section 31 Law Enforcement
The Police Service is charged with enforcing the law, preventing and detecting crime and protecting the communities we serve. Modern-day policing is intelligence led and in this particular subject area the intelligence changes on a day-by-day basis
Disclosure of the requested information would reveal current intelligence which has the potential to seriously undermine effective law enforcement. This would frustrate the prevention and detection of crime in that it may interfere with tactics to manage crime in this area.
Factors favouring Disclosure for Section 31
Disclosure of these details would provide a better awareness which may reduce crime or lead to more information from the public.
Factors favouring Non-Disclosure for Section 31
Disclosure of this information would hinder the prevention or detection of crime by revealing police intelligence, and consequently law enforcement tactics would be compromised. More crime would be committed which would impact on police resources, and place individuals at risk.
Section 40
Gwent Police is withholding the information you have requested on the basis that the exemption contained in s 40(2) of the Freedom of Information Act applies in that the information you have requested is personal data of third parties and the disclosure of the data would breach one of the principles contained in the Data Protection Act. The relevant principle is the first principle which states that:
Personal data shall be processed fairly and lawfully and in particular shall not be processed unless -
(a) at least one of the conditions in Schedule 2 is met and
(b) in the case of sensitive personal data, at least one of the conditions in Schedule 3 is met
It is only necessary to consider (a) in respect of the information requested. The relevant condition in Schedule 2 is condition 6 which states that:
"The processing is necessary for the purposes of legitimate interests pursued by the data controller or by the third party or parties to whom the data are disclosed, except where the processing is unwarranted in any particular case by reason of prejudice to the rights and freedoms or legitimate interests of the data subject"
Balance Test
The investigation you have requested information for, is still on-going.
The Police Service is charged with enforcing the law, preventing and detecting crime and protecting the communities we serve and there is a public interest in the transparency of policing operations to ensure investigations are conducted appropriately.
Modern-day policing is intelligence led and the Police Service share information with other law enforcement agencies as part of their intelligence gathering process. To disclose the requested information would hinder the prevention and detection of crimes and undermine the partnership approach to investigations and law enforcement in relation to this case. Gwent Police will not disclose information whilst there is an on-going investigation. Therefore, it is our opinion that for these issues the balance test lies in favour of exempting the information at this time.
Q5. Money was to be sent to California to someone there. Who was this person and all details of bank accounts related to this person and addresses for this person.
A5. The investigation has no record of a connection to California.
Q6. Please supply names and addresses of all solicitors used by the fraudsters.
A6. The solicitors used by Gibbs were defence lawyers, Hodson Parsons from Newport.
Q7.Jeffries Associates, Stanton Management, Davenport Ltd, GTM Associates were some of the company names used by the fraudsters. Please supply the names of any more uncovered and any relevant information on same.
A7. The exemption applicable to the information you have requested for this question can be found at:
Section 30 - Investigations and Proceedings conducted by the Public Authority
Section 38 - Health & Safety
Section 31 - Law Enforcement
Section 40 - Personal Information
and this refusal notice is issued under Section 17.
Section 30 Public Interest Considerations
Factors favouring disclosure
Disclosure would enhance the public’s knowledge about how information relating to this type of case is used by the Constabulary and how the intelligence received assists in day to day investigations and operations to assist with the prevention and detection of crime; the apprehension and prosecution of offenders and the administration of justice.
Disclosure would also assist in stopping any incorrect rumours or falsehoods relating to how the police manage this type of case.
Factors favouring non-disclosure
Disclosure of the information requested could identify intelligence required for the investigation of a crime within the force area. This would allow individuals to analyse the information and identify the focus of police activity, enabling those committing crime to move their operations, destroy evidence or go ‘underground’. This would hinder the prevention and detection of crime and consequently, the force’s law enforcement capabilities would be affected.
Section 38(1) Health & Safety
The release of the information requested could endanger the physical health of individuals concerned.
The release of information will also reveal policing tactics regarding these individuals.
Public interest considerations favouring disclosure
The release of such information would provide an insight into the Home Office and Police Service and enable the public to have better understanding of the effectiveness of the police. The release of information could allow the public to make informed decisions about the police. This would greatly assist in the quality and accuracy of public debate, which is otherwise likely to be based on speculation and conjecture.
Public interest considerations favouring non-disclosure
Revealing this information would increase the risk to personal protection not only of the individual but also to potential witnesses. The majority of the public would not wish to place these individuals in a more hazardous position by publishing information that would enable harm to be brought to them or their families.
The threat to safety is not just to the recipient but also to others. Any attempt to threaten the life of one of these individuals would also threaten the health and safety of those in the vicinity.
All people are entitled to live and work without a threat of violence directed against them. It is not in the public interest for these individuals to be placed in position of vulnerability by disclosing this level of information.
Section 31 Law Enforcement
The Police Service is charged with enforcing the law, preventing and detecting crime and protecting the communities we serve. Modern-day policing is intelligence led and in this particular subject area the intelligence changes on a day-by-day basis
Disclosure of the requested information would reveal current intelligence which has the potential to seriously undermine effective law enforcement. This would frustrate the prevention and detection of crime in that it may interfere with tactics to manage crime in this area.
Factors favouring Disclosure for Section 31
Disclosure of these details would provide a better awareness which may reduce crime or lead to more information from the public.
Factors favouring Non-Disclosure for Section 31
Disclosure of this information would hinder the prevention or detection of crime by revealing police intelligence, and consequently law enforcement tactics would be compromised. More crime would be committed which would impact on police resources, and place individuals at risk.
Section 40
Gwent Police is withholding the information you have requested on the basis that the exemption contained in s 40(2) of the Freedom of Information Act applies in that the information you have requested is personal data of third parties and the disclosure of the data would breach one of the principles contained in the Data Protection Act. The relevant principle is the first principle which states that:
Personal data shall be processed fairly and lawfully and in particular shall not be processed unless -
(a) at least one of the conditions in Schedule 2 is met and
(b) in the case of sensitive personal data, at least one of the conditions in Schedule 3 is met
It is only necessary to consider (a) in respect of the information requested. The relevant condition in Schedule 2 is condition 6 which states that:
"The processing is necessary for the purposes of legitimate interests pursued by the data controller or by the third party or parties to whom the data are disclosed, except where the processing is unwarranted in any particular case by reason of prejudice to the rights and freedoms or legitimate interests of the data subject"
Balance Test
The investigation you have requested information for, is still on-going.
The Police Service is charged with enforcing the law, preventing and detecting crime and protecting the communities we serve and there is a public interest in the transparency of policing operations to ensure investigations are conducted appropriately.
Modern-day policing is intelligence led and the Police Service share information with other law enforcement agencies as part of their intelligence gathering process. To disclose the requested information would hinder the prevention and detection of crimes and undermine the partnership approach to investigations and law enforcement in relation to this case. Gwent Police will not disclose information whilst there is an on-going investigation. Therefore, it is our opinion that for these issues the balance test lies in favour of exempting the information at this time.
Q8. What alerts were given to the public regarding these boiler room companies.
A8. Please see answer 2 & 3 above.
Q9. Noreen Hamid was also in court. Who recruited her to the fraud and please supply all bank account details she was involved in related to the fraud.
A9. Noreen Hamid was not prosecuted and a not guilty verdict was entered in her respect.
The exemption applicable to the information you have requested for this question can be found at: Section 40 - Personal Information and this refusal notice is issued under Section 17.
Section 40
Gwent Police is withholding the information you have requested in relation to bank account details on the basis that the exemption contained in s 40(2) of the Freedom of Information Act applies in that the information you have requested is personal data of third parties and the disclosure of the data would breach one of the principles contained in the Data Protection Act. The relevant principle is the first principle which states that:
Personal data shall be processed fairly and lawfully and in particular shall not be processed unless -
(a) at least one of the conditions in Schedule 2 is met and
(b) in the case of sensitive personal data, at least one of the conditions in Schedule 3 is met
It is only necessary to consider (a) in respect of the information requested. The relevant condition in Schedule 2 is condition 6 which states that:
"The processing is necessary for the purposes of legitimate interests pursued by the data controller or by the third party or parties to whom the data are disclosed, except where the processing is unwarranted in any particular case by reason of prejudice to the rights and freedoms or legitimate interests of the data subject"
Q10. Some proceeds of the fraud were sent to various addresses in London etc. supposedly in cash. Please supply these addresses in full and names associated with same.
A10. The location of the addresses in London were never identified.
Q11. Please supply any relevant information on the general investigation.
A11. The exemption applicable to the information you have requested for this question can be found at:
Section 30 - Investigations and Proceedings conducted by the Public Authority
Section 38 - Health & Safety
Section 31 - Law Enforcement
Section 40 - Personal Information
and this refusal notice is issued under Section 17.
Section 30 Public Interest Considerations
Factors favouring disclosure
Disclosure would enhance the public’s knowledge about how information relating to this type of case is used by the Constabulary and how the intelligence received assists in day to day investigations and operations to assist with the prevention and detection of crime; the apprehension and prosecution of offenders and the administration of justice.
Disclosure would also assist in stopping any incorrect rumours or falsehoods relating to how the police manage this type of case.
Factors favouring non-disclosure
Disclosure of the information requested could identify intelligence required for the investigation of a crime within the force area. This would allow individuals to analyse the information and identify the focus of police activity, enabling those committing crime to move their operations, destroy evidence or go ‘underground’. This would hinder the prevention and detection of crime and consequently, the force’s law enforcement capabilities would be affected.
Section 38(1) Health & Safety
The release of the information requested could endanger the physical health of individuals concerned.
The release of information will also reveal policing tactics regarding these individuals.
Public interest considerations favouring disclosure
The release of such information would provide an insight into the Home Office and Police Service and enable the public to have better understanding of the effectiveness of the police. The release of information could allow the public to make informed decisions about the police. This would greatly assist in the quality and accuracy of public debate, which is otherwise likely to be based on speculation and conjecture.
Public interest considerations favouring non-disclosure
Revealing this information would increase the risk to personal protection not only of the individual but also to potential witnesses. The majority of the public would not wish to place these individuals in a more hazardous position by publishing information that would enable harm to be brought to them or their families.
The threat to safety is not just to the recipient but also to others. Any attempt to threaten the life of one of these individuals would also threaten the health and safety of those in the vicinity.
All people are entitled to live and work without a threat of violence directed against them. It is not in the public interest for these individuals to be placed in position of vulnerability by disclosing this level of information.
Section 31 Law Enforcement
The Police Service is charged with enforcing the law, preventing and detecting crime and protecting the communities we serve. Modern-day policing is intelligence led and in this particular subject area the intelligence changes on a day-by-day basis
Disclosure of the requested information would reveal current intelligence which has the potential to seriously undermine effective law enforcement. This would frustrate the prevention and detection of crime in that it may interfere with tactics to manage crime in this area.
Factors favouring Disclosure for Section 31
Disclosure of these details would provide a better awareness which may reduce crime or lead to more information from the public.
Factors favouring Non-Disclosure for Section 31
Disclosure of this information would hinder the prevention or detection of crime by revealing police intelligence, and consequently law enforcement tactics would be compromised. More crime would be committed which would impact on police resources, and place individuals at risk.
Section 40
Gwent Police is withholding the information you have requested on the basis that the exemption contained in s 40(2) of the Freedom of Information Act applies in that the information you have requested is personal data of third parties and the disclosure of the data would breach one of the principles contained in the Data Protection Act. The relevant principle is the first principle which states that:
Personal data shall be processed fairly and lawfully and in particular shall not be processed unless -
(a) at least one of the conditions in Schedule 2 is met and
(b) in the case of sensitive personal data, at least one of the conditions in Schedule 3 is met
It is only necessary to consider (a) in respect of the information requested. The relevant condition in Schedule 2 is condition 6 which states that:
"The processing is necessary for the purposes of legitimate interests pursued by the data controller or by the third party or parties to whom the data are disclosed, except where the processing is unwarranted in any particular case by reason of prejudice to the rights and freedoms or legitimate interests of the data subject"
Balance Test
The investigation you have requested information for, is still on-going.
The Police Service is charged with enforcing the law, preventing and detecting crime and protecting the communities we serve and there is a public interest in the transparency of policing operations to ensure investigations are conducted appropriately.
Modern-day policing is intelligence led and the Police Service share information with other law enforcement agencies as part of their intelligence gathering process. To disclose the requested information would hinder the prevention and detection of crimes and undermine the partnership approach to investigations and law enforcement in relation to this case. Gwent Police will not disclose information whilst there is an on-going investigation. Therefore, it is our opinion that for these issues the balance test lies in favour of exempting the information at this time.
Q12. Gibbs plead of guilt contained information that he opened a personal bank account in Cyprus when in fact he lied as the accounts he opened were for fraudulent companies. What investigations were carried out to this end?
A12. No overseas enquiries took place, as our elected parameters were to deal solely with Gibbs and his activities within the Gwent Police area. This was in the knowledge that the City of London police had a wider enquiry/intelligence gathering operation going on.
The Freedom of Information Act is a public disclosure regime, not a private regime. Any information disclosed under the Act is thereafter deemed to be in the public domain, and therefore freely available to the general public and will be published on the Gwent Police website.
I hope this information is satisfactory to your request however, should you feel dissatisfied with this response or the way in which your request was handled, I have attached the Gwent Police FOI Appeals Procedure for your information.
Thank you for your interest in Gwent Police.
Regards,