Boiler Room Scams

[whistler_man]

I would like to make a suggestion.
I want to see more info about the calls you are receiving about "shares".
I want stock name, ticker, market traded on, "brokers" name, company he or she is calling from, website. Most are pink sheet or OTC stocks that are worthless anyway. Going up because of some bogus contract they signed with a major company that, when announced, will shoot up in price. Or, some non-existent product that is patented, etc.
Let's see more info on these idiots. I say idiots because I've seen them. Most can't get a job at a petrol station back in old blighty but have a posh sounding accent or a double barreled last name, ie: Ian barkington-dog.

 

[whistler_man]

Carbon Credits anyone?

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They have balls! In the UK at a posh office. But got busted anyway.

You may be wondering about the frequency of my posts. I'm currently on holiday in Thailand and have seen these dirtbags all over. They don't look like the average tourist and usually hang out together at British/Irish pubs and along Sukhumvit in Bangkok. Tattoos, foul mouth and cheap bargirl in tow.
Anyway the wife is coming in from Hong Kong Friday and I've got free time. Happy holidays everyone.

 

[whistler_man]

I can't resist.
A recent article on Craigslist Bangkok.
Evidently this AO (account opener) is disgruntled with his boss at a boiler room because, Get this, HE LIED TO HIM!! Isn't that their job? Funny!

Here's the txt of the ad.

do not get involved with this idiot who will waste your time!

he offers ao work with the usual retention of bull**** promises.

calls himself darren, aka "the mouse", nothing but a deceitful ****.

call darren on 0852146100 or email [email protected]

i warn ao's not to get involved with this liar as you won't get paid!

He's disappointed that he was lied to.

 

[Kuno80]

whistler_man,
we all appreciate you effort to enlighten us. I am sorry if my post suggested that I am answering to your previous one. It was unintentional. So to be clear, I was not....no need to be all rude about it. Makes it kind of difficult to take your efforts serious.
And yes I was approached by what you so kindly refer to as a "portfolio manager"... And no, I did not send him money. All he took was a good half hour of my life. I must admit his sales pitch sounded pretty.
The intention of my post was to point out, that at different locations on this board this guys company is posting rubbish articles to cover up their tracks. In the meantime warnings about them from other members and me have been deleted from this board. I can give info about them, but i fear that they are watching this board and will simply have any bad publicity removed.

 

[hcure]

Trying to find the best thread to get information about fx robot scams.
I have been in this FX business for 20 years and are still trading every day.
I have an acquaintance who invested $500K with a company called The Thesis Group. Assumingly this has now grown to 800K (in 9 months) and he is ready to double up, investing another 500K.
I have of course told him to get out asap, an told him that at least 99% (if not all) of all these robot/guaranteed profit stuff, are ponzi shemes, but he will not listen.
Trying to find some hard evidence to convince him before he looses more money. What I do know is that the company acting as an agent was someone called The Thesis Group. Pretty sure they are involved with someone called Eminentia Capital, where supposedly these robots are generating more than 1% per week.
Would appreciate any info that could be of help.

 

[pboyles]

Trying to find the best thread to get information about fx robot scams.
I have been in this FX business for 20 years and are still trading every day.
I have an acquaintance who invested $500K with a company called The Thesis Group. Assumingly this has now grown to 800K (in 9 months) and he is ready to double up, investing another 500K.
I have of course told him to get out asap, an told him that at least 99% (if not all) of all these robot/guaranteed profit stuff, are ponzi shemes, but he will not listen.
Trying to find some hard evidence to convince him before he looses more money. What I do know is that the company acting as an agent was someone called The Thesis Group. Pretty sure they are involved with someone called Eminentia Capital, where supposedly these robots are generating more than 1% per week.
Would appreciate any info that could be of help.

Every one of them is a scam, I will try to find some more specific information for you. In the mean time you should probably have a look at the information about Senen Pousa and prophemax, sounds very similar. Use the search box on T2W or just google him, he has already been charged by the SEC.

 

[pboyles]

Trying to find the best thread to get information about fx robot scams.
I have been in this FX business for 20 years and are still trading every day.
I have an acquaintance who invested $500K with a company called The Thesis Group. (in 9 months) and he is ready to double up, investing another 500K.
I have of course told him to get out asap, an told him that at least 99% (if not all) of all these robot/guaranteed profit stuff, are ponzi shemes, but he will not listen.
Trying to find some hard evidence to convince him before he looses more money. What I do know is that the company acting as an agent was someone called The Thesis Group. Pretty sure they are involved with someone called Eminentia Capital, where supposedly these robots are generating more than 1% per week.
Would appreciate any info that could be of help.

hcure,

Is your friend in the UK? I looked at the websites and not surprisingly there is no mention of regulation. The website registration for Eminentia is a serviced office address in St Vincent and the Grenadines, so in other words offshore and probably not traceable. The Thesis Group website has its registration details hidden.

If your friend has given money to these people it is most likely gone for good. When you say 'Assumingly this has now grown to 800K' do you mean that's what they have told him?

He should ask to withdraw all this money and see what BS excuses they give him. I can tell you now he wont be getting it back but perhaps if he hears this for himself it might convince him.

He appears to have given money to an offshore, unregulated company, he will get zero compensation from the FSA.

 

[hcure]

Tx for the info,

this is a Norwegian investor. Agents selling this to him are also Norwegians, but now living in Thailand (what a surprise...). But according to my acquaintance (the investor), the "genius" behind this robot is UK-based. He could not confirm it, but I suspect a company called Westchester Investments Ltd - one of the main names in the Eminentia team (FF)is also the head guy here. But thats pure speculation from my end.

I believe he get the 800K amount, when logging in with his username and password on the Thesis website. But might be they also be sending him e-mails or call him directly.

I have told him several times to withdraw his money Jan 1st (they have told him not before 31.12.12), but he is a stubborn old man. Reached to a point where putting more pressure on him without more information, would be counterproductive, thus me reaching out here.

So really appreciate all input.

hcure,

Is your friend in the UK? I looked at the websites and not surprisingly there is no mention of regulation. The website registration for Eminentia is a serviced office address in St Vincent and the Grenadines, so in other words offshore and probably not traceable. The Thesis Group website has its registration details hidden.

If your friend has given money to these people it is most likely gone for good. When you say 'Assumingly this has now grown to 800K' do you mean that's what they have told him?

He should ask to withdraw all this money and see what BS excuses they give him. I can tell you now he wont be getting it back but perhaps if he hears this for himself it might convince him.

He appears to have given money to an offshore, unregulated company, he will get zero compensation from the FSA.

 

[pboyles]

Tx for the info,

this is a Norwegian investor. Agents selling this to him are also Norwegians, but now living in Thailand (what a surprise...). But according to my acquaintance (the investor), the "genius" behind this robot is UK-based. He could not confirm it, but I suspect a company called Westchester Investments Ltd - one of the main names in the Eminentia team (FF)is also the head guy here. But thats pure speculation from my end.

I believe he get the 800K amount, when logging in with his username and password on the Thesis website. But might be they also be sending him e-mails or call him directly.

I have told him several times to withdraw his money Jan 1st (they have told him not before 31.12.12), but he is a stubborn old man. Reached to a point where putting more pressure on him without more information, would be counterproductive, thus me reaching out here.

So really appreciate all input.

There is a Norwegain connection I recall via a Slovenian who has one of those websites registered to him. I will post more later but this isn't totally anonymous which is good when it comes to tracking these guys down once the penny drops.

 

[pboyles]

Tx for the info,

this is a Norwegian investor. Agents selling this to him are also Norwegians, but now living in Thailand (what a surprise...). But according to my acquaintance (the investor), the "genius" behind this robot is UK-based. He could not confirm it, but I suspect a company called Westchester Investments Ltd - one of the main names in the Eminentia team (FF)is also the head guy here. But thats pure speculation from my end.

I believe he get the 800K amount, when logging in with his username and password on the Thesis website. But might be they also be sending him e-mails or call him directly.

I have told him several times to withdraw his money Jan 1st (they have told him not before 31.12.12), but he is a stubborn old man. Reached to a point where putting more pressure on him without more information, would be counterproductive, thus me reaching out here.

So really appreciate all input.

Perhaps the Norwegian financial regulator has an official warning about unregulated investment schemes. Perhaps they even have some examples of previous scams that are similar. It's probably worth you having a look because at least that information would be coming from an official source.

 

[pboyles]

Westchester Investments claim to be 'authorised' on their website. However they are NOT FSA regulated. This is shaping up nicely for another multi million dollar scandal. All the signs are there, no regulation, hidden website details and last but not least mention of forex robots. All you need is an Australian.

 

[hcure]

Perhaps the Norwegian financial regulator has an official warning about unregulated investment schemes. Perhaps they even have some examples of previous scams that are similar. It's probably worth you having a look because at least that information would be coming from an official source.

Hi

Have checked there, but found nothing.

 

[hcure]

Westchester Investments claim to be 'authorised' on their website. However they are NOT FSA regulated. This is shaping up nicely for another multi million dollar scandal. All the signs are there, no regulation, hidden website details and last but not least mention of forex robots. All you need is an Australian.

Yeah, or a swede .....

 

[headspin]

I was also approached by Norway reps in Thesis about six months ago and asked to recruit for them, i became sceptical however when i heard their guaranteed returns selling points and saw the lack of transparency. I am curious to find out who is behind this?

 

[whistler_man]

Just a note to pboyles,
You are not allowing any "private" emails so I will just say it is my opinion that new "members" on this forum are posing as people in need of info on scams. Namely FX. They are just using you for feedback and are most likely scammers themselves trying to find ways to get over on unsuspecting investors.
Just looking at the Grammar errors in the posts from hcure I don't think he is an Englishman. Maybe a British passport holder but we all know you can be any color and hold a British passport.
Just beware bro, the scammers all monitor these threads.
"Before you open the Kimono, see who's watching." (my quote by the way)

 

[ADRIAN123456]

Has anyone come across the following selling land to grow rice in Sierra Leone .?
Rio Moseley Account Executive
Regency Capital, Kemp house, 152-160, City Road,
London EC1V 2NX UK DD: 0203 384 0957 E: [email protected]

Rio claims their project has been on the BBC TV for an sustainable award and the following is the land to grow Rice " Mission statement "
........African Land (Project Manager), also commit to helping with local education, health issues, creating local jobs and ensuring the harvest goes directly to the local market. The project will not only benefit your portfolio but will also aide the local community..........

 

[ADRIAN123456]

ALSO while I am on the subject..
has anyone come across PACIFIC TYPHOON who specialise getting in investors to buying shipping containers and renting them out in the Pacific Rim area.?

This is their claim... from their web site.
•Minimum 12% p.a.
•Container Ownership is outperforming Gold, Stocks, Bonds and Property.
•Rent and Earn with Pacific Tycoon.
•It's Safe. It's Simple. It's Tax Free. It Pays.
This email has been sent from [email protected]. 19, London, EC1, United Kingdom..
I agree with " It Pays " in their promotion BUT to whom ??????? I bet not the investor !!!!

 

[headspin]

whistler_man - valid point - there was a big case about a similar fx pyramid scheme in Norway recently - i have no interested in establishing anything similar/setup to me is uninteresting, just interested if anyone has any information about key players or if they are impossible to identify..
Thanks

 

[friday76]

Had a call from someone at gold-insight.com (male) who wanted my e mail confirming. Obviously a bit long in the tooth I took him to task. He had no idea what my e mail was, so he was fishing. Apparently their website Home wants you to buy gold, very similar to panpacificgoldandmining of yesteryear. Its obvious they are up to no good. Their office in London has left a trail of debt, a minimum of 200K to utilities and rental and the Met are on to them.

This guy pretended he didn't know what a boiler room was, so I knew he was lying straight away. They then moved on to Teach and trade ltd, them being Sophie Gold (really) and Micheal Cantu aka (even stranger).

The point of this post is to warn others of this outfit, and if you do come across them, to post it in all the usual places. Their intention is to be around for another couple of years.

friday76

 

[friday76]

Had a call from someone at gold-insight.com (male) who wanted my e mail confirming. Obviously a bit long in the tooth I took him to task. He had no idea what my e mail was, so he was fishing. Apparently their website Home wants you to buy gold, very similar to panpacificgoldandmining of yesteryear. Its obvious they are up to no good. Their office in London has left a trail of debt, a minimum of 200K to utilities and rental and the Met are on to them.

This guy pretended he didn't know what a boiler room was, so I knew he was lying straight away. They then moved on to Teach and trade ltd, they being Sophie Gold (really) and Micheal Cantu aka (even stranger).

The point of this post is to warn others of this outfit, and if you do come across them, to post it in all the usual places. Their intention is to be around for another couple of years.

friday76

One important piece of info, Gold Insight are not registered as a company at Companies House, and their number 01945 is not recognised (doesn't exist). Most normal folk would regard them as bogus, QED. Treat the website with the distain it deserves. This website will be removed in due course, in the face of obvious deception and criminality, and all law abiding citizens await the action on this front by the NCA(National Crime Agency) and the new Surveillance laws in 2013.