Boiler Room Scams

i am on the phone now to the fraud squad and have been trying to get an interview since friday but no luck, no wonder fraud is so easy to get away with. police are to busy hiding round corners trying to catch you
speeding. different name same scam, even if you find a contact number it will be registered out of this country and there will be no resources there to do anything but good luck!!!!
 
Hi guys I have tracked these scum suckers down to Amsterdam the regested owner of intenx.com is a bloke named John Prappano of 1290 ave of americas new york I have a phone number of this clown I will give you a fax number 12127101370 this fax works these guys have numerous names vitol capital is located in Singapore. I am going to hammer these maggot dogs as they fleased not me my children's education off them
 
Sorry guys but unless you are willing to take them on with a knife or a gun you won't get near them or any money back from them.

They make multi millions a year and know how to hide everything, including themselves. for example, they all have false passports coming out of their ar**.

You are not dealing with average crooks here but some of the world's best scammers. They have almost every base covered and anyway under which court in which country will you be fighting under? The UK or Austrailian police are not going to want to get involed in a small time scam (under £100,000) that was not commited in their country although it involves one of their citizens.
 
guys...just saw this on DJ News:

1329 GMT [Dow Jones] - The U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission Monday announced the filing of an enforcement action in federal court in New York against American Energy Exchange and York Commodities alleging fraud in the solicitation of customers to purchase options on commodity futures contracts. The CFTC's complaint alleges that AMENX and York, through misrepresentations on their Web sites, defrauded customers out of over $1.39 million. (JCC)

I know its a different company, but if they (Vitol) are operatiing in the US futures markets they fall under the juristiction of the US CFTC, at least for those transactions in US futures and options on those futures. This is a far more aggressive enforcement agency than the wimps over here
Their website is www.cftc.gov
 
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kenmajor said:
Thanks guys re. Oxbridge. You are of course correct. Further digging proves ATS Specialists and their website is a sham. The supposedly independant "investment services" is in cahoots and Oxbridge have made plenty of money and I guess will continue to do so. Good site I wish I had come across it earlier, as we all say.
hello ken rexpg what information as your digging brought you
cheers Paul
 
Vitol Capital

warrenw said:
I have had a series of calls from 3 different people claiming they are from Vitol Capital New York. Ist. Brad Goldman who conned me out of US 5,040 Then came along the General Manager John Cooper who was going to really look after me, tried to relieve me of $100,000. I told him no.
Today had Helen Hamilton review my correspondence, will do me a real favour,if I deposit $10,000 minimum by tomorrow, she will guarantee $4,600.00 for each option of $998.00 ($46,00 net profit). She is to call me tomorrow (Tue 19 Sept.)
I would love to nail these Ba###rds. They gave me email addresses but they bounce back. Do have a fax number that goes through. Their package comes with a Compliant Officer calling etc
warrenw

I have had a similar experience with calls from a Phil Dunhill, Steve Cooper, Brad Brooks and another one. They tried to get me for $10K in unleaded gasoline - I was lucky my transfer didn't go through and I got my money back. Then the lovely Helen Hamilton got me on the same Gold options. I played along and bought 10 options on her brokers account. It all comes up on my Intenx account as having $40K in there although I can't get it out without authorisation. I have no intention of paying up so I am waiting to see how they react. I will ask them to take the funds from my trading account and see how they react. I think they are a scam and would suggest that you don't deal with them. They are not listed as a registered broker firm in the US as far as I can tell and the trading account through intenx I don't know how to check out but I am willing to bet that I can't get my so called money out of it. Badge
 
Hi guys update these guys are in your back yard UK and amsterdam I will give you a fax no that works and can any one trace voda phone mobiles over in the UK because I have 3 fax 16462248511 please help got me for 30000.00
 
Badge & others

I have spoken with the WA Police Fraud Squad who referred me to ASIC. They already have Vitol Capital and Intenx listed as scam companies. Have sent all details to them in form of attachments as well as following.
Helen Hamilton has called again this morning asking if the US $20K transfer to following bank went through yesterday. I assured her it has. She wants me to fax through transfer confirmation (which I can't do)so I'll let her run around in circles for a while.
19 Sept.
"I have spoken to one of your officers today and at her request, she recommended I forward all information I have pertaining to the above companies.
At time of writing this email, they are waiting on me to transfer US $20,000 into following account
Dear Mr. Warren Westaway,
Beneficiary Name :
Universal Trading
Beneficiary Address:
Chunking Mansion, 5th Floor BLKB1
36-44 Nathan Road, Tsim Sha Tsui
Kowloon, Hong Kong
Bank Account No.:01268792021912
Name of Bank:
Bank of China (Hong Kong) Ltd.
Branch Address:
19, Lock Road
Tsim Sha Tsui
Kowloon, Hong Kong
Swift Code:BKCHHKHH
Sincerely,
INTENX Customer Service
International Energy Exchange
http://www.intenx.com/contact/
The company is Vitol Capital, I have had approaches from 3 people, Brad Goldman, John Cooper and today, Helen Hamilton.
I did lose US $5,040.00 on the first (& only) transaction. They are now trying to convince me to lose more.
Email addresses appear to be bogus. I can no longer log into the Intenx Trading site which should be showing the $20K they want me to pay into the Bank of China.
Can anything be done to prevent naïve’ Aussies from being conned by these people.
They also have a “Compliance Officer” by name of John Armstrong (same as before) who claims he is with the International Energy Exchange. I had him on the phone confirming buy order details of GCV06. His voice appears to be camouflaged.
Please also refer to web site Trade2Win Boards that is an on line trading community web site. There are many references to above companies. Some Aussies have lost $30K to them. I have copied part of their web site Boiler Room Scams.doc.
Fax number from Helen that appears genuine is 0011 1646 224 8511.
Please refer to attachments, there is also references to the sham on Googling Intenx Trading.
Any help I can give in nailing these b###ds please let me know.
Regards
Warren Westaway"
Tel: +61 (0)8 9314 1988
Fax: +61 (0)8 9314 1922
Mob: +61 (0)417 998 949
Email: [email protected]
 
I asked questions to see if they were really in Nevis but still undecided.
asked why they were not registerred with FSA and they said it saved clients Capital gains tax.
Kepp fingers crossed, that's all you can do
 
Based in Nevis so punters can escape Capital Gains Tax, that's a funny one :)

Yes, watch out for those land banking scams been around for a few years now.

You see everyone it ALL boils down to KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE BUYING OR INVESTING IN. The more research you do the less chance of getting ripped off or overpaying etc.

Same with shopping for goods like a computer. If you head into say PC World and know nothing then chances are the salesman is going to stuff you up with a £800-£1000 PC (desktop not laptop) when in reality 95% of people should be paying no more than £400, more like £350 from someone like Dell.

The internet folks is your best friend - NEVER FORGET THAT........
 
Airthrey Capital said:
If you cant find their phone number and address, then do yourself a favour and stop being so stupid.

If you cant work out that any institution which is less than clear about how they can be contacted is going to be somewhat "dodgy", then you deserve to lose all your money.

DON'T DO IT!

I just got contacted by Intercap Management Group, saying they had a great opportunity for me in the Global Equity Fund and its part of Donald Trumps new investment in Dubai blah blah blah. They wanted £15000 for me to join in! Obviously don't know a tight scottish b*stard when they speak to one :LOL:
 
Another one scamed here

Hi guys, just informing you I was scammed $4000 from Vitolcapital / Intenx, by the looks of things I have been scammed a minimum amount which is the good news, but bad for me offcourse as I am not wealthy and $4000 has made a large dint in my savings.

I was spoken to firstly by David marks, than Steve Cooper. Absolute Scum, I’m prepaid to go to whatever lengths to bring them down and help get everyone’s money back, It's Brutal what they have done. :eek:
 
Also here is the details of the bank which they stole my money from:

Your assigned regional clearing member account is:
Beneficiary Name :
Universal Trading
Beneficiary Address:
Chunking Mansion
5th Floor BLKB1
36-44 Nathan Road, Tsim Sha Tsui
Kowloon, Hong Kong
Bank Account No.:
01268792021912
Name of Bank:
Bank of China (Hong Kong) Ltd.
Branch Address:
19, Lock Road
Tsim Sha Tsui
Kowloon, Hong Kong
Swift Code:
BKCHHKHH
 
Byrneck
The Hong Kong bank account is the same as I was given. Details have been provided to ASIC however I doubt if they can do anything as it is an overseas scam company (Vitol).
Surely there must be a way of alerting the bank that they are taking part in an illegal activity and as such, supporting the scam company in fleecing victims.
Are there any suggestions as to how this can be achieved? Name of bank President, Hong Kong Police Dept. details?
Would the bank continue to support Vitol/Intenx knowing of their illegal operation?
warrenw
 
Hi All
I am another Aussie- live in Melbourne- who seems to have joined the growing band of Fleeced VITOL/INTENX community.As shown below <some background to my own sad experience > Although I have sent this detail to the US NFA ( National Futures Association ) who I understand monitor their listing of traders/members on the Futures markets over there, I have the feeling that they can only gain some effect with members who are” registered “ as traders advisors ,could be wrong – not the first time—My question is who is responsible, and to what extent, for the actual listing of and description of a “member firm” on the NYMEX site . It would seem that there is no defined requirement e.g. licence ref no. to trace the credentials – or lack thereof—of any member. I will be following up on this but in the meantime if anyone more familiar with that particular process can offer insight would appreciate input.
Copy of some of detail sent to NFA on their website form Sept 26 06 about 5 PM.

Would also agree to this message being added to the growing evidence on GOOGLE , don’t know how to !! maybe the administrator of this forum can help. This seems to be the only effective way of making others aware before the event (apart from the sensible process of using logic to never ever accepting cold call offers!!! Over the “phone )

Copy of some of detail sent to NFA on their website form Sept 26 06 about 5 PM

Vitol Capital Management Ltd
157 Chambers Street # 10
New York NY 10007-351
Ph /fax 1 646 224 8359
Toll free 1 888 487 9306
www.vitolcapital.com
NYMEX Division Non-Clearing Member Firms
Amongst others as shown on Current Website
· UBS AG · Umicore AG & Co. KG · Valero Marketing & Supply Co. · Vitol Capital Management, Ltd. · Vitol Refining Capital Management S.A. · Vitol S.A.





This firm, listed on the NYMEX Website as a non-clearing member contacted me in Mid - late July 2006 with promotion of assistance with futures option trading on the New York Exchange. They advised me to, independantly check the Nymex site for their status which I duly did
( and I also checked our own listing of Blacklisted overseas cold callers detailed by our regulator here in Australia ASIC (--Australian Securities and Investment Commission ) however at that time Vitol were not listed--- they are now !! since I checked in mid July. I also checked the internet at that time but did not unearth any thing to raise my concern.
Assuming that their inclusion on that site as a member was some evidence of authenticity I forwarded an amount of $USVia their clearing firm INTERNATIONAL AND CONTINENTAL TRADING through The Dah Sing Bank Ltd Hong Kong July 18 06.
On July 28 06 I T/Td a further $US amt to cover what was purported to be a total of 9 call options HUU06 & 3 puts HUU06.
An account in my name with INTENX " Exchange" Ref No 116-308-1948 was duly credited with these amounts.
The calls expired vitually worthless and the puts were purported to have sold for $5481.00 ea. with further calls/puts said to have been made with an EXPIRY of Sept 26.
A further transfer of $US amt. was forwarded on Sept 11 06 This time via UNIVERSAL TRADING Through Bank of China 19 Lock Rd.Tsim Sha Tsui Kowloon H.K.
The main individuals I have dealt with at Vitol is a Steven Cooper/ Kevin Hunt ( phone No 848 4879306 Ext 301)
others include :
Mathew Williams. Ron Jones Brad Brook all relative to “ trading room “
John Armstrong !! Compliance Officer “ reads out risks re futures/options.
Sreven Cole another “ Compliance Officer “
I must admit to some embarrassment in this matter for my gullibility which has no doubt seen my funds disappear, however I would appreciate any assistance you may be able to render in this matter and hope that if the worst is confirmed you may be able take some preventative measures to protect any further victims falling prey to what I suspect this arrangement to be.
I recently requested 2 withdrawals from the above account and duly received confirmation .
Unfortunately I have not heard any further from INTENX “ customer service”
 
anley said:
Based in Nevis so punters can escape Capital Gains Tax, that's a funny one :)

Yes, watch out for those land banking scams been around for a few years now.

You see everyone it ALL boils down to KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE BUYING OR INVESTING IN. The more research you do the less chance of getting ripped off or overpaying etc.

Same with shopping for goods like a computer. If you head into say PC World and know nothing then chances are the salesman is going to stuff you up with a £800-£1000 PC (desktop not laptop) when in reality 95% of people should be paying no more than £400, more like £350 from someone like Dell.

The internet folks is your best friend - NEVER FORGET THAT........


Problem in my case was because Intenx and Vitol capital were new companies, they were clear of the radar, So nothing bad was coming up against them back when I searched there names. So in my case, if no one knows of them, steer clear as well.
 
Boiler Room Scam - Vitol Capital management Ltd

Sorry to hear that you're another victim, my initial fears are confirmed. My options expired worthless too, after repeated attempts to get through to Vitol Capital during the 24 hours prior to my expiry time & date.
Some of the names / contacts @ Vitol you mentioned, I received calls from too i.e. Steve Cooper, Kevin Hunt etc etc.
I have contacted the HKMA (Hong Kong Monetary Authority) to report the perpertrators. They have requested that I submit my complaint in writing rather than email, which I have duly done & am now waiting on feedback.
ASIC are also aware as it shows on their website. I fear we probably won't see our funds again, but hope this news will travel & prevent others from falling prey to these scumsuckers.





awcx said:
Hi All
I am another Aussie- live in Melbourne- who seems to have joined the growing band of Fleeced VITOL/INTENX community.As shown below <some background to my own sad experience > Although I have sent this detail to the US NFA ( National Futures Association ) who I understand monitor their listing of traders/members on the Futures markets over there, I have the feeling that they can only gain some effect with members who are” registered “ as traders advisors ,could be wrong – not the first time—My question is who is responsible, and to what extent, for the actual listing of and description of a “member firm” on the NYMEX site . It would seem that there is no defined requirement e.g. licence ref no. to trace the credentials – or lack thereof—of any member. I will be following up on this but in the meantime if anyone more familiar with that particular process can offer insight would appreciate input.
Copy of some of detail sent to NFA on their website form Sept 26 06 about 5 PM.

Would also agree to this message being added to the growing evidence on GOOGLE , don’t know how to !! maybe the administrator of this forum can help. This seems to be the only effective way of making others aware before the event (apart from the sensible process of using logic to never ever accepting cold call offers!!! Over the “phone )

Copy of some of detail sent to NFA on their website form Sept 26 06 about 5 PM

Vitol Capital Management Ltd
157 Chambers Street # 10
New York NY 10007-351
Ph /fax 1 646 224 8359
Toll free 1 888 487 9306
www.vitolcapital.com
NYMEX Division Non-Clearing Member Firms
Amongst others as shown on Current Website
· UBS AG · Umicore AG & Co. KG · Valero Marketing & Supply Co. · Vitol Capital Management, Ltd. · Vitol Refining Capital Management S.A. · Vitol S.A.





This firm, listed on the NYMEX Website as a non-clearing member contacted me in Mid - late July 2006 with promotion of assistance with futures option trading on the New York Exchange. They advised me to, independantly check the Nymex site for their status which I duly did
( and I also checked our own listing of Blacklisted overseas cold callers detailed by our regulator here in Australia ASIC (--Australian Securities and Investment Commission ) however at that time Vitol were not listed--- they are now !! since I checked in mid July. I also checked the internet at that time but did not unearth any thing to raise my concern.
Assuming that their inclusion on that site as a member was some evidence of authenticity I forwarded an amount of $USVia their clearing firm INTERNATIONAL AND CONTINENTAL TRADING through The Dah Sing Bank Ltd Hong Kong July 18 06.
On July 28 06 I T/Td a further $US amt to cover what was purported to be a total of 9 call options HUU06 & 3 puts HUU06.
An account in my name with INTENX " Exchange" Ref No 116-308-1948 was duly credited with these amounts.
The calls expired vitually worthless and the puts were purported to have sold for $5481.00 ea. with further calls/puts said to have been made with an EXPIRY of Sept 26.
A further transfer of $US amt. was forwarded on Sept 11 06 This time via UNIVERSAL TRADING Through Bank of China 19 Lock Rd.Tsim Sha Tsui Kowloon H.K.
The main individuals I have dealt with at Vitol is a Steven Cooper/ Kevin Hunt ( phone No 848 4879306 Ext 301)
others include :
Mathew Williams. Ron Jones Brad Brook all relative to “ trading room “
John Armstrong !! Compliance Officer “ reads out risks re futures/options.
Sreven Cole another “ Compliance Officer “
I must admit to some embarrassment in this matter for my gullibility which has no doubt seen my funds disappear, however I would appreciate any assistance you may be able to render in this matter and hope that if the worst is confirmed you may be able take some preventative measures to protect any further victims falling prey to what I suspect this arrangement to be.
I recently requested 2 withdrawals from the above account and duly received confirmation .
Unfortunately I have not heard any further from INTENX “ customer service”
 
Vitol and INTENX

shez said:
Hi Giles
We deposited to same bank account in Hong Kong, Universal trading we are the in the same position as you you dont want to beleive you have been scammed but i think we have, Micheal Thompson was the gentleman who was so considerate and rang every day to see how ae we going from Vitol Capital we also had a lady contact us this week from Vitol Capital who was telling Micheal had gone on holidays and she would be looking after us and was explaining how we could buy more, so did NYMEX actually say you have no prooth of purchasing any options, i have emailed NYMEX and yes i have checked the australian securities commission and there name is on the black list so it does not sound good but i will be contacting the australian securities commission and i will report them !!!!!! Keep in contact

Giles and Shez, I too have invested money in options through Vitol and INTENX. I did find VItol registered as a company on the government website for Bermuda, and I have previously found INTENX on a US Federal Government Website as an approved trading firm.

Reading all this is really starting to give me a sick feeling. If they are fake they are pretty bloody good at it. If Nymex is not affiliated with them why are they listed on Nymex's list of clearing members?
 
jimbo57 said:
guys - go back to post #285 - if you have been scammed on NYMEX options (which is what you are saying) tell the CFTC. Its a long shot but they are the regulator of this market, if you don't tell 'em, they will never know, and if you do they might, just might, do something about it.
Thanks jimbo, I have registered a complaint with NFA who seem to be the CFTC's appointed monitor of all sorts of dealings in futures will let the board know if I ever get any feedback but I am afraid my input will probably be lost in the sheer volume of complaints
 
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