Asian Coronavirus Outbreak

But that's not really an answer is it.?

If going off topic meant we were banned from the thread there wouldn't be anyone here would there?

But if you don't think that question is important enough to even bother answering, that's fine.

It's just that when I get asked to justify what I believe, I post a long list of reasons- all of them exactly on topic.

Anyone else can do likewise to back up what they think and I would give it consideration. I actually will sit and watch an hour of something by somebody I don't agree with.

Btw ,I am heavily impacted financially by this like many others, so when people make casual patronising remarks about 'laughing all the way to the morgue' and 'dole queues', it isn't the least bit amusing for me.

Particularly, as I documented here in real time, a close friend of ours who had difficulty breathing was sent home to die by the NHS because 'There was nothing they could do' She (age 34) has now made a full recovery with no medication.

I will continue to speak the truth as I see it.

Hope that didn't stray too far off topic

‘Course it’s not amusing - perhaps you need to look up the definition of irony.
 
World Health Organisation, contributions 2018: 1. USA - $436.8m 2. UK - $318.7m 3. Germany - $240.5m 4. Japan - $134.7m 5. Kuwait - $94.2m 6. Sweden - $76.6m 7. Norway - $64.7m 8. Australia - $54.4m 9. Canada - $46.2m
 
World Health Organisation, contributions 2018: 1. USA - $436.8m 2. UK - $318.7m 3. Germany - $240.5m 4. Japan - $134.7m 5. Kuwait - $94.2m 6. Sweden - $76.6m 7. Norway - $64.7m 8. Australia - $54.4m 9. Canada - $46.2m

China circa $40m and the organisation run by a communist philosopher from Somalia.
 
2 free masks per person home-delivered.
No new cases for 4 days.
Whats Monaco doing that we're not?
Staying on their yachts, drinking champagne, getting servants to go into infected areas to top up the caviar supplies. Theres a whole lot the Monaco crowd are doing that we're not.
 
The exit strategy is going to be very interesting, along with people returning to work, when the furlough ends, when demand is generated, when people will feel like spending to generate enough demand to get more people back into work, it's a circular one.

Plenty have already lost their employment with plenty more to come as businesses go under, how quickly can enough consumer demand be generated to save us, where is the tipping point?

Does anyone know of any forecast modelling ? I'm seeing plenty of data analysis jobs being advertised, could this be part of a big data analysis to guide the modelling?
 
The exit strategy is going to be very interesting, along with people returning to work, when the furlough ends, when demand is generated, when people will feel like spending to generate enough demand to get more people back into work, it's a circular one.

Plenty have already lost their employment with plenty more to come as businesses go under, how quickly can enough consumer demand be generated to save us, where is the tipping point?

Does anyone know of any forecast modelling ? I'm seeing plenty of data analysis jobs being advertised, could this be part of a big data analysis to guide the modelling?

Doubt any existing model will have accounted for a pandemic outbreak that thas played out as such. I've still haven't worked out toilet paper running out in response to a virus that kills.

I think it is becoming clear to people that risks emanating from complete shutdown is greater than risks from the viral transmission.

Domestic violence, mental depression and increased fatalities due to cancers on the up, not to mentioned people suffering from postponed surgeries.

As for millions in the US who are self employed and not due for any bailout money of any kind, what are they supposed to do when their money runs out? Rob banks. OR will the banks claim their houses for non-payment of mortgages.

Big farce going to turn into a sh!t show if this lockdown is not eased soon enough imo.
 
. . .I've still haven't worked out toilet paper running out in response to a virus that kills. . .
Spot on with your observation At', although I'm surprised by the sentence I've quoted, as we've covered this earlier in the thread. Hundreds of thousands of teenage boys are stuck at home with nothing but the internet for company. What are they gonna do - there's not much else for them to do?! That's why some families stock up with industrial quantities of bog role. Obvious, innit!
:ROFLMAO:
 
Spot on with your observation At', although I'm surprised by the sentence I've quoted, as we've covered this earlier in the thread. Hundreds of thousands of teenage boys are stuck at home with nothing but the internet for company. What are they gonna do - there's not much else for them to do?! That's why some families stock up with industrial quantities of bog role. Obvious, innit!
:ROFLMAO:

I don't think you are taking this seriously Tim. :unsure:

Having said that I have read somewhere that porn site traffic has trebled or something like that.

Personally, I've started playing on the piano too. Purchasing new books. Before any naff jokes come by, no it's not an organ. It's an upright wall piano. (y)
 
The exit strategy is going to be very interesting, along with people returning to work, when the furlough ends, when demand is generated, when people will feel like spending to generate enough demand to get more people back into work, it's a circular one.

Plenty have already lost their employment with plenty more to come as businesses go under, how quickly can enough consumer demand be generated to save us, where is the tipping point?

Does anyone know of any forecast modelling ? I'm seeing plenty of data analysis jobs being advertised, could this be part of a big data analysis to guide the modelling?
What are you and Counter doing with your stockpiling from a month ago?
 
What are you and Counter doing with your stockpiling from a month ago?

Well, I keep hearing things like "we are in the foothills of the economic crash", "rainfall wipes out US farmers crops", "the Chinese have missed their planting season due to the lockdown", "we are entering a grand solar minimum", "supply chains will be disrupted for months"....etc

So my bailout box is staying topped up ;)
 
As for millions in the US who are self employed and not due for any bailout money of any kind, what are they supposed to do when their money runs out? Rob banks. OR will the banks claim their houses for non-payment of mortgages.

Looks like they are following Trump's advice.

 
Governments around the world are full of idiots, there are no entry qualifications to be an MP.
If Labour had won the election and Jeremy Corbyn had gotten Coronovirus Dianne Abbot would be leading the country right now!
We need less government restrictions not more!
 
Governments around the world are full of idiots, there are no entry qualifications to be an MP.
If Labour had won the election and Jeremy Corbyn had gotten Coronovirus Dianne Abbot would be leading the country right now!
We need less government restrictions not more!


Right.

Its very hard to see a leftist administration committed to "big government" hurrying to relax virus emergency regulations after this is all over. I can only trust that as Johnson's administration definitely does not lean that way, we will revert to 2019 conditions in double quick time. No "temporary" nationalisations that somehow become permanent I hope.
 
The exit strategy is going to be very interesting, along with people returning to work, when the furlough ends, when demand is generated, when people will feel like spending to generate enough demand to get more people back into work, it's a circular one.

Plenty have already lost their employment with plenty more to come as businesses go under, how quickly can enough consumer demand be generated to save us, where is the tipping point?

Does anyone know of any forecast modelling ? I'm seeing plenty of data analysis jobs being advertised, could this be part of a big data analysis to guide the modelling?

Depends on how many "intellectuals" and how much influence they hold as to the speed of recovery.
Compare Obama v Trump record as an example (pre virus outbreak)

This is well worth a watch.
 
The link that follows is to a page of the Office for National Statistics website:
6. Deaths registered in the year-to-date, week 1 to 14
Scroll down to the segment headed: 'Figure 5: The number of deaths involving COVID-19 for females was lower than males in all age groups'. Note that there are no deaths in the first two age groups: under a year old and 1 - 14 (although there has been a death of a 13 year old boy since this was published). The next age group of 15 - 44 is the really interesting one - 29 male and 23 female - a total of just 52 deaths. Unfortunately, I can't find the data to confirm this but, according to someone interviewed on BBC Radio 4 yesterday, all but 9 of these had underlying health issues. 7 men and just 2 women if I remember rightly. That's the total for the year to date - just 9 people under 45 with no co-morbid conditions have died from the virus. To put this into some sort of context, 5 people die every single day in road traffic accidents, yet I don't hear anyone demanding that we all stop driving cars to save lives.

What this says to me is that we can - and should - get children back in schools, older pupils back in universities and the rest of the under 45 age group that are fit and well back into work asap. That action alone would prevent many businesses from going under and many jobs from being lost. But I doubt it'll happen, as one preventable death is one too many. Crazy!
Tim.
 
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