Asian Coronavirus Outbreak

[fibo_trader]

Chloroquine has the potential to prevent a wave 3 down in the Corona after we complete the wave 2 rally up worldwide. I therefore believe that the trigger for the next downwave in the BEAR market will be something else and it will be financial.

Chloroquine is just a drug but the greater symbol is that the WEST found the solution to fight back. That's the key. The solution could be anything but its the resolve that finds it, name is immaterial

Virus story is likely OVER.

Good f**** riddance.

 

[fibo_trader]

Dow Jones 1H Corona Virus buster chart of simplicity = kid with a ruler. Can such a kid prevail? He always has. Will this be the first time he fails (or 2nd when he came close to failing but saved hisself at the last moment)???

 

[MasterOfCoin]

All of which raving about waves is perhaps a tad premature.

The world is shutting down. Places that were once teeming with the hustle and bustle of daily life have become ghost-towns with massive restrictions put on our lives - from lockdowns and school closures to travel restrictions and bans on mass social gatherings, meeting places and events.

It is an unparalleled global response to a disease. But when will it end and when will we be able to get on with our lives?

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said he believes the UK can "turn the tide" against the outbreak within the next 12 weeks and the country can "send coronavirus packing". But even if the number of cases starts to fall in the next three months, then we will still be far from the end.

The tide rushed in. But it can take a long time for the tide to go out - possibly years.

It is clear the current strategy of shutting down large parts of society is not sustainable in the long-term, as the social and economic damage would be catastrophic.

What countries need is an "exit strategy" - a way of lifting the restrictions and getting back to normal. But the coronavirus is not simply going to disappear.

If you lift the restrictions that are holding the virus back, then cases will inevitably soar again.

"We do have a big problem in what the exit strategy is and how we get out of this," says Mark Woolhouse, a professor of infectious disease epidemiology at the University of Edinburgh.

"& It's not just the UK, no country has an exit strategy for all this yet."

When and as a clear and effective exit strategy emerges, then society and the markets will react accordingly.

We are still very far from that point.

😷

 

[Signalcalc]

All of which raving about waves is perhaps a tad premature.

The world is shutting down. Places that were once teeming with the hustle and bustle of daily life have become ghost-towns with massive restrictions put on our lives - from lockdowns and school closures to travel restrictions and bans on mass social gatherings, meeting places and events.

It is an unparalleled global response to a disease. But when will it end and when will we be able to get on with our lives?

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said he believes the UK can "turn the tide" against the outbreak within the next 12 weeks and the country can "send coronavirus packing". But even if the number of cases starts to fall in the next three months, then we will still be far from the end.

The tide rushed in. But it can take a long time for the tide to go out - possibly years.

It is clear the current strategy of shutting down large parts of society is not sustainable in the long-term, as the social and economic damage would be catastrophic.

What countries need is an "exit strategy" - a way of lifting the restrictions and getting back to normal. But the coronavirus is not simply going to disappear.

If you lift the restrictions that are holding the virus back, then cases will inevitably soar again.

"We do have a big problem in what the exit strategy is and how we get out of this," says Mark Woolhouse, a professor of infectious disease epidemiology at the University of Edinburgh.

"& It's not just the UK, no country has an exit strategy for all this yet."

When and as a clear and effective exit strategy emerges, then society and the markets will react accordingly.

We are still very far from that point.

😷

Spanish Flu had a few waves didn't it? It bounced back about half the size of the first wave with successive waves much smaller but still present.

They weren't globalised back then, with the ability to contain and control on a global scale that we have now I can see there is going to have to be global cooperation, will we end up with infected colonies? Whole cities & towns dedicated to quarantine, where the infected go to wait it out or die whilst the rest of the world get's on with it either immune or not yet infected?

What about the long term effects on those that have caught it and recovered, chest problems and other spin-off complaints?

This is going to be a long, long-haul.

 

[Pat494]

Not all is doom and gloom for crooks. Criminals are using the epidemic to rob people.

Coronavirus-related scams surge as fraudsters exploit pandemic concerns

 

[cantagril]

Doom and gloom! The long haul! No exit strategy! Repent, the End is Nigh!!

Perleeease! This is total shite and an abandonment of common sense and a denial of current knowledge. Measured scepticism is great but pathological scepticism makes an idiot out of you.

Go back to basics and the numbers will tell you exactly what is not going to happen but what has already started to happen - I posted the Imperial College study earlier in this thread and it gives you all the numbers necessary. This is not the Black Death - i.e, 95% of the population, at least, will survive and the age mean hides an unfortunate truth for older gits (like me) in that the max 5%~ toll is more likely over 10% for the 65 and older bracket....this basically means that the largest number of deaths is going to be amongst the sick, frail and generally elderly or put another way, the demographic which contributes the least to society.

The matter of immunity has been discussed and dissected to death(!) and put simply, those that get infected and survive will develop a level of immunity however variable that may be. In the meantime, vaccines of different types are being developed and just as has occurred with seasonal flu these will start being rolled out to the general public as and when they start becoming obviously viable.

During the culling process, those who have survived will take up the threads of their lives and society will gradually get back to normal. The virus timeline is about 3 weeks from beginning to end, so very rapid and the first signs of the societal recovery will be evident in a couple of months, not years. We are all know the adage about the markets rising more slowly than they fall and this is exactly the same. The herd dynamic that makes most traders do stupid things (and the few do smart ones) operates with the reaction to the virus. Look at what will happen to the panic buying lunacy: when everyone has 6 months supply of toilet paper and pasta and people have started to adapt to the new normal, then very quickly the supermarkets will be overflowing with stuff they can't sell because those private hoards are being used up instead.

Stupidity and ignorance never go out of fashion and the virus is not going to get rid of that - but, the moment enough people start to understand what is going on then the mood will change and behaviour along with it.

§end rant§

 

[timsk]

. . . Stupidity and ignorance never go out of fashion and the virus is not going to get rid of that - but, the moment enough people start to understand what is going on then the mood will change and behaviour along with it. . .

Bravo cant' - my sentiments exactly. And once it's clear we're over the hump and the virus is in decline, the (inter)national mood will skyrocket. And if this happens to coincide with a half decent summer, the consequences could be a joy to behold - on a par with VE Day in 1945. My prediction is that indices will hit new all time highs by Christmas!
Tim.

 

[Oscar Reed]

Duck's good.

Duck for Saturday night.

Sunday vegetarian roast.

 

[tomorton]

Duck for Saturday night.

Sunday vegetarian roast.

Oooooooooooh!.......................

 

[cantagril]

.... My prediction is that indices will hit new all time highs by Christmas!
Tim.

Seems a bit far-fetched, but no more absurd than what's going on now...so why not?

 

[David Knight]

Russell Brand, the man you hate to love.

Gatekeeper singing from the hymsheet. Probably never was a drug addict- fake cover story.

Clues
No talent yet constant exposure
Supposedly a comedian who never does comedy- but focuses on misdirection
Was a novelty for about 15 minutes years ago.
Hated farage/leaving EU
Current message -isolation= good


We don't need isolation and meditation and 'social distancing' right now.

That is the cul de sac this phoney is pointing to. Modern version of the New Age project.

The exact opposite is req'd- exposing the hoaxers and their agenda- which we cannot do of course if we self isolate.

Classic case of look here, don't look there.

The agenda is transparent. Ignore this crap as much as you can.
Socialise if you are off work (do the opposite of what they want).

Looking at some people emptying the shelves, this would be an ideal time for some of the fat fcuks to go on a diet.

Fake virus.

Fake man of the people.

(AH,,that's better, I've started the day with a nice little rant)

 

[David Knight]

Launch pad for the Dow Jones is 18,900. It has NOT triggered yet as of 9:56 PM Thursday nite, March 19/2020 California time

When/if trigger fires it will be a massive surge north as it will contain both TECHNICALs and regular SENTIMENT but also RELIEF of catastrophy viruswise.

Futures are giving me no indication of any such rally aborning. But I don't a give a ......................
(Dow futures = red to green on and off now at +15)

Fasten seatbelts, hide and watch

I also see strong buy signals.

 

[Signalcalc]

Doom and gloom! The long haul! No exit strategy! Repent, the End is Nigh!!

Perleeease! This is total shite and an abandonment of common sense and a denial of current knowledge. Measured scepticism is great but pathological scepticism makes an idiot out of you.

Go back to basics and the numbers will tell you exactly what is not going to happen but what has already started to happen - I posted the Imperial College study earlier in this thread and it gives you all the numbers necessary. This is not the Black Death - i.e, 95% of the population, at least, will survive and the age mean hides an unfortunate truth for older gits (like me) in that the max 5%~ toll is more likely over 10% for the 65 and older bracket....this basically means that the largest number of deaths is going to be amongst the sick, frail and generally elderly or put another way, the demographic which contributes the least to society.

The matter of immunity has been discussed and dissected to death(!) and put simply, those that get infected and survive will develop a level of immunity however variable that may be. In the meantime, vaccines of different types are being developed and just as has occurred with seasonal flu these will start being rolled out to the general public as and when they start becoming obviously viable.

During the culling process, those who have survived will take up the threads of their lives and society will gradually get back to normal. The virus timeline is about 3 weeks from beginning to end, so very rapid and the first signs of the societal recovery will be evident in a couple of months, not years. We are all know the adage about the markets rising more slowly than they fall and this is exactly the same. The herd dynamic that makes most traders do stupid things (and the few do smart ones) operates with the reaction to the virus. Look at what will happen to the panic buying lunacy: when everyone has 6 months supply of toilet paper and pasta and people have started to adapt to the new normal, then very quickly the supermarkets will be overflowing with stuff they can't sell because those private hoards are being used up instead.

Stupidity and ignorance never go out of fashion and the virus is not going to get rid of that - but, the moment enough people start to understand what is going on then the mood will change and behaviour along with it.

§end rant§

I like your optimism

However, take a look across the channel to see where it's all headed, doesn't look good to me, therefore a healthy dose of pessimism and skepticism is not unusual. 🔥🚒👩‍🚒🧯

Burying one's head in the sand makes a fool of you (and me).

 

[Signalcalc]

BBC are calling for massive social media censorship based on supposed fake news about how to avoid the pox, examples of this fake news are:

• Eat Garlic
• Drink water every 15 mins
• Don't eat ice cream
• Drinkable Silver

Yes we must de-platform, spend millions, remove encryption and jail people for spreading this socially destructive fake news.

What is the average age of the BBC audience, 8 year olds? Think they should put this on CBeebies rather than headline news, f*ckwits.

 

[David Knight]

Duck for Saturday night.

Sunday vegetarian roast.

This guy is making the 666 handsign.. don't trust his recipes..he's one of them

 

[MasterOfCoin]

BBC are calling for massive social media censorship based on supposed fake news about how to avoid the pox, examples of this fake news are:

• Eat Garlic
• Drink water every 15 mins
• Don't eat ice cream
• Drinkable Silver

Yes we must de-platform, spend millions, remove encryption and jail people for spreading this socially destructive fake news.

What is the average age of the BBC audience, 8 year olds? Think they should put this on CBeebies rather than headline news, f*ckwits.

Well of course they are.
This is after all the same BBC that expects everybody to pay for it, regardless of actually using it.
And if you don't, we'll just remind you every few weeks and visit you more often than your relatives, just to make sure you understand that you have to pay or be treated like the criminal you must be for not paying.

So, de-platform immediately and pay the fee to be fed officially sanctioned fake news only.

😷

 

[0007]

Well of course they are.
This is after all the same BBC that expects everybody to pay for it, regardless of actually using it.
And if you don't, we'll just remind you every few weeks and visit you more often than your relatives, just to make sure you understand that you have to pay or be treated like the criminal you must be for not paying.

So, de-platform immediately and pay the fee to be fed officially sanctioned fake news only.

😷

Presumably, the BBC would like to be in charge of the censorship! Putting the BBC in its place will be the next great victory after Brexit.

 

[David Knight]

I like your optimism

However, take a look across the channel to see where it's all headed, doesn't look good to me, therefore a healthy dose of pessimism and skepticism is not unusual. 🔥🚒👩‍🚒🧯

Burying one's head in the sand makes a fool of you (and me).

BBC are calling for massive social media censorship based on supposed fake news about how to avoid the pox, examples of this fake news are:

• Eat Garlic
• Drink water every 15 mins
• Don't eat ice cream
• Drinkable Silver

Yes we must de-platform, spend millions, remove encryption and jail people for spreading this socially destructive fake news.

What is the average age of the BBC audience, 8 year olds? Think they should put this on CBeebies rather than headline news, f*ckwits.

And they say TA is all hindsite...

BBC News viewers reached quarterly UK 2012-2019 | Statista

The BBC News TV channel has seen a decline in reach over recent years in the United Kingdom.

www.statista.com

 

[MasterOfCoin]

Frankly, the BBC should stick to what it's good at and leave everything else well alone.

Classic period dramas, light entertainment and a soap or two for the masses.

It would have no trouble marketing those at a considerable profit.


Perhaps they could even turn out a decent 'Corona-Apocalypse' offering on a par with 'The Triffids' for our delight.

😷

 

[barjon]

Jeez, don’t you guys have a good word to say about anything? Tell you what, let’s each find a “good news“ story to post. I’ll start off with two:

Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville are closing their two Manchester hotels and offering the rooms to NHS workers. They have also said they will make no staff redundant Or put anyone on unpaid leave.

My neighbours have created a help group and are busy shopping etc for us stay at homes.