Anyone heard of Savi Trading?

I know a couple of boys who work up at Savi and they genuinely seem like they're trying their hardest. The problem is you can't train traders in my opinion. The best traders are those that follow their own individual styles and instincts. You need to learn from your own mistakes rather than following someone elses ideas and thoughts.
 
im going to the open night June 8th...
Hate the fact that they want money up fron 3.5k and that they give you 1k a month as a stop loss (kicks you out) but seems like an easy way of getting in a firm and getting acess to monies

Hi Xylem, I have recently posted my CV for a trainee role with Savi but am now reading all sorts of conflicting statements on how these companies operate......Could you throw any light on this as your last comment stated you were attending their open night on June 8th/2009.
Kind regards
Nicole :rolleyes:
 
Hi Xylem, I have recently posted my CV for a trainee role with Savi but am now reading all sorts of conflicting statements on how these companies operate......Could you throw any light on this as your last comment stated you were attending their open night on June 8th/2009.
Kind regards
Nicole :rolleyes:

well worth spending the time checking this site out....a great resource for anyone looking to get training...

http://www.proptraders.net/prop-firms-offering-training/
 
I don't know anything about Savi Trading but I think paying for training is pretty useless. If you cant get a paid position, you can learn everything yourself, the money you were going to give to these 'prop firms' save and put into your own account. Although I can understand for a complete newbie this is daunting and paying a firm seems like a good option.

Always use your common sense and always do your own due diligence. If someone on here says its sh*t, it might not be they could just be missed informed. but be very wary of these type of companies, look up a thread I recently saw on here regarding Headway Trading / James Woodhead. Fairly interesting. Savi Trading could very well be a fantastic company and the only way you will find out is if you visit and scrutinise them. If they are legit, they shouldn't have anything to hide.
 
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Hmmm. There was a really interesting post from someone called Tom (which most of my post was referring to) Although in the space of 10 minutes while I was writing my reply, it seems to have disappeared?
 
Headway Trading finished in January. James Woodhead(who run it) asked the remote traders for the next months subscriptions and then shut up shop. Looks like he learnt well at TCA!!!

Yikes!...Savi also operate from one of the same 4 Broadgate broom cupboards that other dodgy trading firms have operated from.

Is this a coincidence?, must be coincindental :

http://www.savitrading.co.uk/contactus.asp
 
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Good spot but I think its probably just a coincidence.
Countless prop firms are based at 4 Broadgate. If I am correct, its owned by a company that offers off-the-shelf solutions (office space, bloomberg etc. everything you need to start-up) to prop firms, hedgefunds and financial services.

This thread is being constantly modified. Earlier tomsmith's post was deleted along with that it says my post yesterday 5:30 was modified by someone called Androosh today at 4:20? Not sure what was changed. Anyone know whats going on?
 
Just checked the original and on my reply to tomsmith's post about one of the 'big guys' being on a demo account was deleted. I also said that if they were legit, they should show you anything you wish.. Maybe someone is trying to cover something up? I don't know but I am not here to slag off Savi as I don't know them, I am just making reasonable comments and if anything, trying to tell people that Savi could be good, don't just listen to people on here. Although all of this modifying seems very strange.
 
Guys, I wondered if anyone is on training course with Savi Trading? What's your opinion about the company? Is it true what they say? ( different trading style from major prop trading houses, refund the course fee if you don't make 5K within 4 months or so, etc.). What's the chance of getting a job within their hedge fund after their course? What if you fail to meet the target ( whether on sim or live)- you won't get backed at all or only until you meet the target?


What is their hedge fund called?
 
not sure why my posts seem to keep being deleted...... but i can keep posting it


Just to clear a few things up.......

-When you pay you are essentially funding your own account this is the same for all the companies who charge for a 'training fee' this is just so they can operate with out being FSA registered.

-They don’t trade decent size, when I visited, the 'Biggest Yen dealer in London (Sachin Shah)', who also worked for G.S and BoA, had a demo account...... doesn't really show too much ability, even their head mentors trade tiny accounts

-Collectively their whole accounts look to be less than $60k USD...

-Funny how 'FXweek' has written another favourable article on them..... Shame no other magazine will write anything on them, seems a little one sided too me....

- Their main experience is in FX dealing not prop trading; it is very easy to front run a large customers order when you're a bank dealer for 10-15pips but to actually prop trade this is a different matter.

- Ask what prop trading strategies they use? As they seemed to think the 5, 8 cross is the Holy Grail....

- If they are so good ask to see broker verified statements of their trades from a LIVE acc

- Very poor standard of educational material in my opinion

- Trading the news/rumours seemed to be their strategy b/c they have all the 'inside' knowledge from their mates in the investment banks.... if it was that good of information their 'mates' wouldn’t let them know..... but most of the info isn’t a secret and you can keep track of it for free on www.forexlive.com

- News is what the public thinks traders trade this is a very common misconception, thus trading the news outcomes doesn’t work in the long run as all you are doing is gambling

- Also heard a lot about risk 0.3 to make 0.5 as there is a 50:50 chance the market will go up or down.... if it was that easy then there would be no market; working with this risk reward ratio you will more than likely loose in the long run...

what is the value of the assets under management? What is the FSA registration number?
 
and the main strategy is the 5 8 ma cross...........

thats a pissss poor strategy in my opinion. Maybe its just one of their strategies, thats just a technical strategy, there has got to be more to it than that if they are managing investors funds.
 
oh i think the hedge fund is in the process of being set up (see fxweek magazine), last claim i heard was they have 400m usd to look after...

5 8 cross is just the main strategy they told me about
 
oh i think the hedge fund is in the process of being set up (see fxweek magazine), last claim i heard was they have 400m usd to look after...

5 8 cross is just the main strategy they told me about

well lets hope that its not a 400m usd demo hedge fund. Talk of setting up a hedge fund for successful trainees or candidates may well be the bait to suck in suckers, who knows for sure, time will tell!

In the mean time it seems only fair to give them the benefit of the doubt, no complaints seemed to have surfaced yet.
 
This forum has been brought to our attention as it has comments that have been written deliberately to tarnish our firm’s reputation, something that we pride ourselves on as an organisation. Upon reviewing this thread and others, we believe there are many questions raised about Savi, the company and how it works.

Firstly, we would like to clarify the points raised by Tom Smith who seems to have solely commented on this post after joining T2W, possibly just to target one particular company. He appears to have an uncanny resemblance (with respect to writing style) to an individual who has attempted to start 2 training firms over the past 6 months. (This is despite him stating he doesn’t believe in the model. Not exactly an individual that has the best intentions.)

Savi Trading do charge a fee for the course as stated on our website, but this fee goes towards providing the best services to our trainees in mentoring, training, research and providing them with an environment in which they can excel and become the best they can. The traders that meet the pre-defined targets are provided with trading funds, which are stated in our contract with the trader, offering them full transparency, so there is no denying a trader the opportunity if they meet the target.

The trading size that each trader eventually has access to has a positive correlation with the returns generated. If someone is consistently profitable, we will look to increase the funds available to them.

Sachin Shah, who is the head of trading, does not prop trade himself as he is running the overall business and is there to provide a solid support function to the rest of the mentors and un-biased market views. It must be stressed that heads of trading at most institutions do not actually trade, and are there to make sure they build a solid team that collectively can make a lot of money. With regards to total accounts being $60k, this is a silly and false accusation.

We place a huge amount of importance on our training, as we want the trader to be as profitable as possible, as then both parties succeed. The training is important in the long run as we are looking to develop each trader with the view that if they prove themselves and demonstrate consistency then there is the possibility that they will be employed by Savi Asset Management. Savi Asset Management (SAM) is a firm that specialises in managing capital for wealthy individuals as well as institutions, which is a regulated activity and as such it has the necessary authorisation. SAM recruits the most consistent revenue generating traders from Savi Trading, and provides them with a platform where they can (after becoming authorised) trade institutional size. The recruits are only sourced through Savi Trading as that way, we can provide a track record to SAM and an assessment of their skill having worked with the traders over a considerable length of time.

We should stress that Savi Trading are not here to teach you strategies but are here to develop the trainees into professional traders so they have the skills and resources available to develop their own strategies. This is more important as the markets are constantly changing and one strategy will not always work. Therefore, teaching strategies is rather frivolous given that at any given point in time these strategies could fail as market conditions change. We are not sure why the 5-8’s is being mentioned so much, but it is one of the many indicators out there, and it is good in trending markets when taking into consideration other indicators and market factors.

FX Week is a very credible newspaper which is read by the majority of the forex market and we are happy that they have taken an interest to write about Savi Trading.

One thing which we are very concerned with is brand strengthening, and we believe there is no value in lying or not providing someone with something we have promised, as a bad reputation can spread fast. Therefore, it is key to provide the best, as success breeds success. We are attempting to build a solid brand here, and understand the only way we can build that is by providing the best in everything we do. Our traders have great opportunities, as all our recruits are made in-house. This way, we understand the candidate better and can make sure, we get the individuals who fit the roles in the best possible way.

What we encourage people to do is come in and visit us, and they can speak with the traders on the floor and gain a better understanding of what we are offering and trying to do. We have nothing to hide and are very transparent on everything we do, rather than having an alias hiding behind a computer screen. Our ethos is to look after the ongoing development of each trader. We must stress that we have never had any complaints about any of our training, from our traders, or people on various forums, therefore we believe we must be doing something right.

We can definitely see the benefits of using these forums for information, but don’t feel there is any need to be here to try and tarnish reputations of any firms, therefore we advise if anyone wants to discuss something further, please call us on 0207 965 4630 or email [email protected] to arrange a visit.
 
This forum has been brought to our attention as it has comments that have been written deliberately to tarnish our firm’s reputation, something that we pride ourselves on as an organisation. Upon reviewing this thread and others, we believe there are many questions raised about Savi, the company and how it works.

Firstly, we would like to clarify the points raised by Tom Smith who seems to have solely commented on this post after joining T2W, possibly just to target one particular company. He appears to have an uncanny resemblance (with respect to writing style) to an individual who has attempted to start 2 training firms over the past 6 months. (This is despite him stating he doesn’t believe in the model. Not exactly an individual that has the best intentions.)

Savi Trading do charge a fee for the course as stated on our website, but this fee goes towards providing the best services to our trainees in mentoring, training, research and providing them with an environment in which they can excel and become the best they can. The traders that meet the pre-defined targets are provided with trading funds, which are stated in our contract with the trader, offering them full transparency, so there is no denying a trader the opportunity if they meet the target.

The trading size that each trader eventually has access to has a positive correlation with the returns generated. If someone is consistently profitable, we will look to increase the funds available to them.

Sachin Shah, who is the head of trading, does not prop trade himself as he is running the overall business and is there to provide a solid support function to the rest of the mentors and un-biased market views. It must be stressed that heads of trading at most institutions do not actually trade, and are there to make sure they build a solid team that collectively can make a lot of money. With regards to total accounts being $60k, this is a silly and false accusation.

We place a huge amount of importance on our training, as we want the trader to be as profitable as possible, as then both parties succeed. The training is important in the long run as we are looking to develop each trader with the view that if they prove themselves and demonstrate consistency then there is the possibility that they will be employed by Savi Asset Management. Savi Asset Management (SAM) is a firm that specialises in managing capital for wealthy individuals as well as institutions, which is a regulated activity and as such it has the necessary authorisation. SAM recruits the most consistent revenue generating traders from Savi Trading, and provides them with a platform where they can (after becoming authorised) trade institutional size. The recruits are only sourced through Savi Trading as that way, we can provide a track record to SAM and an assessment of their skill having worked with the traders over a considerable length of time.

We should stress that Savi Trading are not here to teach you strategies but are here to develop the trainees into professional traders so they have the skills and resources available to develop their own strategies. This is more important as the markets are constantly changing and one strategy will not always work. Therefore, teaching strategies is rather frivolous given that at any given point in time these strategies could fail as market conditions change. We are not sure why the 5-8’s is being mentioned so much, but it is one of the many indicators out there, and it is good in trending markets when taking into consideration other indicators and market factors.

FX Week is a very credible newspaper which is read by the majority of the forex market and we are happy that they have taken an interest to write about Savi Trading.

One thing which we are very concerned with is brand strengthening, and we believe there is no value in lying or not providing someone with something we have promised, as a bad reputation can spread fast. Therefore, it is key to provide the best, as success breeds success. We are attempting to build a solid brand here, and understand the only way we can build that is by providing the best in everything we do. Our traders have great opportunities, as all our recruits are made in-house. This way, we understand the candidate better and can make sure, we get the individuals who fit the roles in the best possible way.

What we encourage people to do is come in and visit us, and they can speak with the traders on the floor and gain a better understanding of what we are offering and trying to do. We have nothing to hide and are very transparent on everything we do, rather than having an alias hiding behind a computer screen. Our ethos is to look after the ongoing development of each trader. We must stress that we have never had any complaints about any of our training, from our traders, or people on various forums, therefore we believe we must be doing something right.

We can definitely see the benefits of using these forums for information, but don’t feel there is any need to be here to try and tarnish reputations of any firms, therefore we advise if anyone wants to discuss something further, please call us on 0207 965 4630 or email [email protected] to arrange a visit.

Who is the author of this statement from Savi?
 
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