Sam Goldberg futures mastery-no info

Hi Friends,

Has anybody heard of sam goldberg? someone asked.
have you seen his system? No nobody known to me on this vast internet universe has seen it.
It is like an unknown entity.
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I have heard. I contacted him.
The answer in simple words is PAY MONEY FIRST OR NEVER YOU GET ANYTHING!!!!

i SAW his site
Learn How To Become A Consistant, Profitable Emini Trader...Live In Real Time
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A part of it is here copied for your ready reference.

Emini Mastery Coaching Program

Over 5 days I will teach you a sound and proven Trading Methodology. My trading method is Proprietary and is not available or taught anywhere else.

As a member of The Emini Mastery Coaching Program I will share...

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The same winning platform and set-up that I use for successful trading (so you are looking at the exact same things I'm looking at as you trade the market)
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A proven system for reading a candlestick chart like a road map in your sleep (candlesticks are proven to improve your trading results, but only if you know what to look for)
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How I only take trade set-ups that have an 80% + probability of success (and I'll show you what to look for so you will too. No more second guessing the market...)
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How to choose from a few very high probability trade set-ups for maximum market penetration (you don't want to be risking your capital in the market when there's a slim chance of making a profit)
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How to take advantage of my Proprietary 'Peak Off The Flat' set-up (yes I own that one and I'll share it with you in the program. This setup often gives explosive moves and you can catch them once you know exactly what to look for)
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Why a 'Dip In The Jet Stream' will alert you that the market is ready to fly (this setup also creates powerful, profitable moves with incredible consistency)
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The signals to look for that generate clear cut for trade entries and exits (you'll know when to enter and exit the market - reduce your stress levels by not wondering if you are in the right way on every trade)
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How to acquire the discipline that only successful traders have - I will teach it to you as we work together on your trading plan
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2 indicators that triple confirm my decision to enter or exit a trade (if you add these to your trading plan you'll massively increase your chances of consistent profits)
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My personal 90% winning trade that is used 4 out of 5 days, and works like a charm (you'll love this one...)
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A true Money Management discipline that the Pit Traders utilize (these guys trade for big bucks - they have to get it right and you can too)
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Finally learn why and when the market is trending and stay with the trend (the trend is your friend...but how do you know if it's trending or not. I'll show you)

But that's not all. As an Emini Mastery Coaching Program member...

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You will learn the same successful pre market preparation that I use every day (a systemized preparation is one of the keys to successful trading - I'll show you how I prepare for a profitable trading day)
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I'll show you how to spot a Buy or Sell program and profit from this event (these programs can move markets big-time. You don't want to be on the wrong side of one of these trades...)
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You'll discover how to keep EMOTION out of your trading so that you trade with discipline only (emotional traders lose. Learn to control your emotions and you can be among our small group of consistent winners)
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You'll be able to react to the markets movement, make it Automatic (if you think about a trade, you'll probably be either late or wrong. You must learn to react instantly to capture profits when they are there)
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You'll learn about volume spikes, A/D line, time of day and you'll discover a new ability to take advantage of price moves at last (won't that be a refreshing change?)
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I'll show you how to determine when the market is really trending and what you should do (trading trends will make you money, trading counter trends or sideways markets will send you broke...I'll show you how to trade the trends)
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I'll reveal the #1 reason most traders lose money and how we can change that immediately (it's simple, but will make a profound difference to your trading)
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You'll learn about Support and Resistance - these two powerful allies will become your best friends in trading
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Discover how to catch 70% of a market move during a trend (letting your profits run sounds simple enough in theory but is often much more difficult in practice. I'll show you how to capture the big moves, hold your ground, and not exit until the move is most likely over)
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We will learn how to limit our losses on our losing trades (all traders have losses, it's just a part of doing business. I'll show you how to limit your losses while letting your profits run)
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You'll always use stops and you'll actually know where to place them (stop losses are mandatory for Emini traders. The problem is, they often take you out of a trade too early. I'll show you where to put your stops for maximum safety while minimizing early exits)
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You'll learn how to trade Economic news while other traders are still asleep (news moves markets. You can catch others napping if you know what to look for)
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I'll show you how we never let a winning day turn into a losing one (locking in profits is a strategy that losing traders never consider. I'll show you how I do it)
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You'll be privy to all my chart patterns and set-ups (you'll be able to look at any chart and know what to do any time one of these high probability trade setups occurs)
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I'll teach you why the market moves at specific times of the day (and how you can profit from this)
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and much, much more...

See, my goal with this coaching program is to have you come out the other side as a competent, confident and profitable trader.

As we work together we will diagnose what's currently great with your trading, and what needs attention. You will discover proven ways of capturing extra profits and avoiding losses.

I'll show you how to identify profitable trades in all types of markets and generate consistent profits you can take to the bank.

We'll ignite your passion for trading, unravel the mystery of the market, simplify the trading process and overcome every obstacle that's been holding you back up to now...

By the end of our 5 days together, you'll have a personalized trading system that you can continue working FOREVER. That's right, it's completely scalable and flexible. Trade 1 contract, or 5, or more depending on your account balance (and I'll go into all of this with you).

Regardless of what happens in the market, this system continues to work because of its structure.
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Later on I mailed him about some charts etc.
His reply is like this.



Ram,

I wish I had the time to send charts to everyone! I don't.

If you have an interest in the trading Room please let me know.

Trading is a very difficult profession where most people fail and fail miserably. I am opening up the trading room to give outsiders an opportunity to hear me call trades that meet the methodology standards.

I can't send charts also because of the intellectual property that is connected with my methodology.

1) you can learn the methodology from me $9,997.00 32 hours of one on one training.

2) you can attend the trading room $497.00 per month


PS: I could not agree with you more, there is a lot of un-professional material on the web and I am sure that you took a look and saw that I don't advertise because I help traders!!!.

Warmly,
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To my knowledge,nobody known to me ever said anything good about sam gold berg course.


Instead I looked into BILL CREADY,S Futures Trading Secrets Trading Course - Strategies and techniques that will make you money!
The system has no secrets. it costs and cost is reasonable.
you go there see it all,listen to his voice,see videos,look over his experience of how he tested various systems etc before landing on the present final one.

He tells you following things that are of high value.
1 trade lower time frames to minimise risk.
2.use non lagging indicators at least one
3.pesavento patterns give you some kind of edge.
4.position sizing,support and resistance-can be very good help.
5.triple ergodic and double ergodic can help much

I think this is better option, and his system takes place of mentor.
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Rvlv,

The first rule is never pay for a course like this. It isn't necessary.

All the expertise, advice and guidance is available for free here on T2W and many other web-sites.

"triple ergodic and double ergodic". In the UK, this would be known as a load b0ll0cks. Ignore it and save your money.

Grant.

futures trading

Grant,

Thanks for a brief but effective guideline. thanks for your time as well.
I have seen known friends etc taking hits in futures trading.
If possible,kindly give me some good links on futures trading.
It would help other new bees too.
regards
rvlv

grantx said:

Rvlv,

The first rule is never pay for a course like this. It isn't necessary.

All the expertise, advice and guidance is available for free here on T2W and many other web-sites.

"triple ergodic and double ergodic". In the UK, this would be known as a load b0ll0cks. Ignore it and save your money.

Grant.

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too epensive course too expensive tradig room

Just barely survived one month in "Sams psychotic trading room" spent 397 to get into his room for 4 days in the week. His singing is not so good and his trading is worse. His room is a marketing nightmare, on three contracts on 19 days of trading it costs my account over 4000 dollar.

He says he has trained over 300 people. at almost $10,000 per persons. When he miss the trade he says all traders are stupid who dont know his methodology and probably lost this trade but his own methodology wins the trade.

he set very big stops and the loosers wipes out the gains. Sell s his course very hard during the trading room and doesnt trade for the profit. he trades for the sell of his course. he has not allowed me to contact any of his traders that claims for a reference for the method because of ethics he says and criticizes other trade rooms constantly laughing at them because they are idiots. I felt like the idiot giving him the money all the time to listen to him make such nonsense trading recommendations....

I trusted him for this because he says he is so concerned and wants to help. Yes he wants to help himself to the money in your pocekt.

hi traderjim sorry about your problem.

Hi traderjim,

Thanks for the feedback. it helps many. everybody makes a mistake but the clever one gets out of it fast. and finds his own way.

Please read master trader e book by jens claver.
check basics refresh and start all over

trademanagement is must

entry,initial stoploss,breakeven stoploss,targets at first resistance and trailing stop use after price crosses first known resistance is the clue.
position sizing-just trade one lot.
support resistance monitor
papertrade 4 weeks
If you can use patterns to trade like double bottom,double top,support becomes resistance or res becomes support etc.

thanks once again for pointing out a flaw in sams system-wide stops big danger
1. entry by trend on higher time frame like 5 min,
2.exit and re entry by 1 or 2 min time frame
3.smaller time frame less the losses
4 supports pivots can help
5 if u cant minimise loss by timely action, dont trade
just paper trade fine tune staert all over again

how to get an edge?
Systems
read this site
think tank t2win forum can help
just wait go slow
good luck
rvlv

gTraderJim said:

Just barely survived one month in "Sams psychotic trading room" spent 397 to get into his room for 4 days in the week. His singing is not so good and his trading is worse. His room is a marketing nightmare, on three contracts on 19 days of trading it costs my account over 4000 dollar.

He says he has trained over 300 people. at almost $10,000 per persons. When he miss the trade he says all traders are stupid who dont know his methodology and probably lost this trade but his own methodology wins the trade.

he set very big stops and the loosers wipes out the gains. Sell s his course very hard during the trading room and doesnt trade for the profit. he trades for the sell of his course. he has not allowed me to contact any of his traders that claims for a reference for the method because of ethics he says and criticizes other trade rooms constantly laughing at them because they are idiots. I felt like the idiot giving him the money all the time to listen to him make such nonsense trading recommendations....

I trusted him for this because he says he is so concerned and wants to help. Yes he wants to help himself to the money in your pocekt.

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Hi,

Are there any recent views on Sam Goldberg as he now has a room that's open for free trial users.

Thanks.

quin2k

Hi,

I have spent a couple of days in his free room. He certainly is psychotic and irritating, but I can't make up my mind about his trading.

He does trade with good risk management: initial stop 2 pts, covering half the position at a point (trading the ES - e-mini S&P) and moving stop to break-even. Also, if the price action turns against the trade before covering half, he does cut it quickly.

There was one entry that he claimed to have called in his paid room which I don't see how he could have got, because it was still in the middle of reaction to news. His co-host in his paid room came into the free room and talked about it, but there may have been collusion there. I'm just dubious about that trade. The co-host also made a passionate speech about his trading experiences and how this turned it around for him. Maybe that's all part of the hyoe, but he certainly sounded sincere.

A lot of what SG talks about makes sense when I look at a couple of timeframes - I'm guessing that he is using the 10 minute or the 15 minute, but I don't know. Perhaps some more guys could trial his free room, keep an eye on these charts and see what you think.

He does make some clear calls in the free room, though not enough for me to judge him overall one way or another. Some of these calls seem pretty good. I think many more of us need to check this out and form an opinion. Or maybe we all chip in a few dollars and a moderator of T2W can buy the course and see once and for all if it's any good! How about it?

Cheers,

Jay.

Update:-

On Friday, he was much calmer and there were some very good live calls made. His co-moderator also popped in and I had a good message chat with him. I now think that this is genuine and I'll be joining it when I can.

Regards,

Jay.

jaymarc said:

Update:-

On Friday, he was much calmer and there were some very good live calls made. His co-moderator also popped in and I had a good message chat with him. I now think that this is genuine and I'll be joining it when I can.

Regards,

Jay.

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I have been a student of Sam Goldberg for over four years and believe he has the best methodogy of anybody in this industry. I have paid for 7 different methods before meeting Sam and he is the most honest person in this business!!!! His method is so good that he uses no manuals or books inorder that it does not get stolen over the internet. Sam has about 5 trade set ups and knowing just one is worth the price of his course. Over the past 4 years Sams keeps in contact with me on weekly basis to make sure I become successfull. I am a slow learner and am finally over the hump with my trading career. If you take everything you learned from those other guys and throw their manuals away, Just trade Sams methodoloy you can make plenty of green. Sam will not let you fail!!!! Thanks Ric W

I have been a student of Sam Goldberg for the past four years and he is the only mentor in this business that will follow up with you to make sure you are successfull. He has one trade set up that is worth the price of his methodology. Thanks Ric w

Hi Ric,

I have been in his free room a few times and am looking to join him next month. As a matter of interest, which set-up do you rate so highly? Are you still in his main DNA room, or are you out on your own?

Regards,

Jay.

Jay, Actually all five of his set ups are great, But the one set up I talked about yesterday is very simple and the entry is to the tick. As a member I am not allowed to discuss any of the methodology, but I can say this one set up happens about 4 times a day and works 90% of the time. This trade is so easy that a cave man can do it!!!! LOL Ric

Jay, I forgot to mention that I am in the DNA room for a little longer as Having Sam call the trades along with trading on my own helps my confidence. The key is only looking at what Sam tells and get rid of all your other baggage. KEEP IT SIMPLE Thanks Ric

Hi Ric,

I wasn't asking for methodology details, just the name of the set-up - naming it doesn't give it away. I already know the set-up names, so am wondering which one you were referring to. If you're still in the DNA room, I should see you there next month.

Cheers,

Jay.

Jay, I quess as long as I call the set up the same as they call it in the free room I should be allright. The S play and RS play are great but you have to determine the best entry, (support or resistance) The Power play is the best because it has an exact enrty to the tick. Also in the free room they are not using the correct time frame and when you get in the DNA room they also show you the support and Resistance lines. If you have any other questions I will answer what I can without causing problem with Sam. Also Sam is not hinding anything as he has the best method and not going to give it away for free. Thanks Ric W

Thanks, Ric. I thought it might be that one.

I'm feeling very positive about what I've seen, especially as Jerry seems very good, too. The only thing that concerns me is a post in this forum by someone who said that he lost a few thousand in a month in the room, trading 3 contracts, and that Sam used big stops.

I understand that Sam uses 2 point stops (and Jerry 1.5 pts) but was there a time when he used larger ones? (Or perhaps this other guy thought 2 pts was large.)

I'll be starting in January need it to be as successful as it seems to be, otherwise I'm going to be in a mess.

Thanks.

Jay, I was in the room at the same time this individual made these comments and this guy is totally wrong. If I was Sam I would consider suing him. At the time this was the first time Sam had a room and there was some growing paines learning how to start a room. Sam does not need to have a room as he can just trade they way he has for years. Also, I was trained about a year before Jerry and have got to know him very well too. Jerry has been trading for about 7-10 years very successfull and came to Sam take it to the next level. I have spent money on 7 different methods and Sam is the only one that supports his students after the training is over. How many mentors will give you his e-mail and cell phone. If a person can not make money with this method it is you own fault. Also, There are two new students in the room that Sam trained in last 6 months that are making $8,000 to $10,000 a day. Before you join if you want we can talk over the phone or e-mail. Thanks Ric W

Thanks, Ric, that's reassuring. You always get people trying to second guess things or just not following instructions. I was thinking and hoping that the other guy might be in that category. I have been impressed during the time that I have been in the free room and I will be joining the DNA room.

It would be good to touch base. PM me your details, please.

Best, Jay.

Hey Jaymarc,

I've been in the free DNA room every day as well. I'm interested in getting a membership and looking into it further. Have you taken that step yet or found anything out that would be of help? Would appreciate it man. Thanks!

True777

jaymarc said:

Thanks, Ric, that's reassuring. You always get people trying to second guess things or just not following instructions. I was thinking and hoping that the other guy might be in that category. I have been impressed during the time that I have been in the free room and I will be joining the DNA room.

It would be good to touch base. PM me your details, please.

Best, Jay.

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Hi,

I'm joining next month. I haven't been able to spend much time in the free room, but I've been impressed enough to make the leap. I think we'll do very well with them.

Regards,

Jay.