senyorqueso said:Racer - don't know if I'm understanding your numbers properly - is that 166 trades?
Kriesau - I was originally trying larger stops of ~50pts, but decided against this as it seems hard to justify from a risk/reward point of view for an intra day trade. Does this work ok for you? You must need pretty big wins to overcome the losses, which must be hard to achieve in one session. Are you managing to get consistent profits this way with spreadbets?
The Dow is very volatile and can rise or fall by 20/30 points in minutes within a contrary direction to its daily trend. I have occasionally used 20 pts + the spread on a day trade but I generally find that this is too tight unless you have a very specific short term target of say 20 to 30 pts and you close out as soon as this has been reached. With a 50 pt stop you have more leeway on the trade and you can always close it earlier if the market is clearly moving against you.
It's all down to the strategy or strategies that you employ. On swing trades I'll use a 100 pts and on day trades anything from 40 to 60 pts with a trailing stop up and down.
"Do you make consistent profits" On Day Trades - does anyone ? My experience is that I have good and bad runs. The key is to make the most of your good runs and be prepared to close out trades quickly when you are having a poor run. You are more likely to make consistent profits on swing trades than day trades.
In the end it's all down to your own style, strategies and objectives. It's a numbers game and you should be making considerably more money on you winning trades than you lose on your losing trades. On this basis you should very be profitable with a 40% success rate and extremely profitable on a 50% success rate or above.
I'm sure that there are others here who would both agree and disagree with me. That's what spread trading is all about - there is no magic formula - you have to evolve strategies that work for you.