Hi ppl, I'm very new in here
I have a question for u, I searched all night, about trading systems, and I only found scams and nothing telling what I wanted to know, until I discovered this nice forum
I've done a lot of new indicators, and I test them with trading systems I do for them, and I do trading systems also. I have lots of them.
I would like to know something about testing trading systems:
What are the necessary performance data of a system in order for it to be good at your point of view?
- Do u test your systems with spread 0 or do u test them already with an discount of 2/3 pips?
This one is strange because why should we test them with a spread we don't know which will be in the future?
- Do u test systems with leverages around 50/1 and margin calls of 50% or with 1/1 leverage?
- What profits do u search in a trading system for ex, for Eur-Usd in 1 or 2 years in hourly candles?
We all know that a trading system much too overfitted to a cross, will give better results but worse results in the future, so there is no need for optimizing it in excess. But, when I develop a new indicator, I do a trading system based only in that indicator or with 1 more, and check how much he could do in those 2 years, if over-optimized.
This over-optimization is done for me just to measure how much the indicator can be "molded" into the cross because we can't have millionary results with only an indicator like bollinger bands and stochastic without something else, and even with something ele, over-optimized we can't have decent results.
Now, I got results in the thousands of millions value of % and more sometimes, in 2 years of hourly candle trades, with good ratios (I guess but I need u to tell me what's the standard accepted worldwide). So, wouldn't that single indicator, which we can take lots of profit of without the help of other famous ones, doing profit alone, be a good indicator to use on a daily basis in daytrading and not as an trading system? Or wouldn't it also be good in trading systems if he alone gives so much profit?
And in case it may be good, how can I made an indicator (and a bunch of them) like that public? Or would it have any chance to be famous? I would only be public something that ppl would like if I had a way to make it associated to me and not to anyone else (having my name on it).
Basically what I really need to know, is what values of performance does a system need to have, including what spread it will use on tests and leverage (I try to test them on 50/1 with 50% margin call to see if they adapt well).
PS: I'll show u at the end one example of one of my trading systems in action. It gave 600 trades in 2 years, only 9600 pips of profit (as u can see below) but with 50/1 leverage and 50% margin calls and no take profits he gave those orders in real time (but not the millions as u can imagine, but anyway worked as a good indicator as he worked without any other known indicator). U can see there the pips earned, the posision, on thouse hours on those 2 days, 3 wins 1 lost.
Best regards for u all,
Gonçalo Nuno
I have a question for u, I searched all night, about trading systems, and I only found scams and nothing telling what I wanted to know, until I discovered this nice forum
I've done a lot of new indicators, and I test them with trading systems I do for them, and I do trading systems also. I have lots of them.
I would like to know something about testing trading systems:
What are the necessary performance data of a system in order for it to be good at your point of view?
- Do u test your systems with spread 0 or do u test them already with an discount of 2/3 pips?
This one is strange because why should we test them with a spread we don't know which will be in the future?
- Do u test systems with leverages around 50/1 and margin calls of 50% or with 1/1 leverage?
- What profits do u search in a trading system for ex, for Eur-Usd in 1 or 2 years in hourly candles?
We all know that a trading system much too overfitted to a cross, will give better results but worse results in the future, so there is no need for optimizing it in excess. But, when I develop a new indicator, I do a trading system based only in that indicator or with 1 more, and check how much he could do in those 2 years, if over-optimized.
This over-optimization is done for me just to measure how much the indicator can be "molded" into the cross because we can't have millionary results with only an indicator like bollinger bands and stochastic without something else, and even with something ele, over-optimized we can't have decent results.
Now, I got results in the thousands of millions value of % and more sometimes, in 2 years of hourly candle trades, with good ratios (I guess but I need u to tell me what's the standard accepted worldwide). So, wouldn't that single indicator, which we can take lots of profit of without the help of other famous ones, doing profit alone, be a good indicator to use on a daily basis in daytrading and not as an trading system? Or wouldn't it also be good in trading systems if he alone gives so much profit?
And in case it may be good, how can I made an indicator (and a bunch of them) like that public? Or would it have any chance to be famous? I would only be public something that ppl would like if I had a way to make it associated to me and not to anyone else (having my name on it).
Basically what I really need to know, is what values of performance does a system need to have, including what spread it will use on tests and leverage (I try to test them on 50/1 with 50% margin call to see if they adapt well).
PS: I'll show u at the end one example of one of my trading systems in action. It gave 600 trades in 2 years, only 9600 pips of profit (as u can see below) but with 50/1 leverage and 50% margin calls and no take profits he gave those orders in real time (but not the millions as u can imagine, but anyway worked as a good indicator as he worked without any other known indicator). U can see there the pips earned, the posision, on thouse hours on those 2 days, 3 wins 1 lost.
Best regards for u all,
Gonçalo Nuno