What consitutes a "LIVE TRADING CALL"

[jeffre4]

somebody shoot me

 

[counter_violent]

somebody shoot me

Bang

 

[Forexmospherian]

I'm sure you're not. That would be the inattention of the reader, but the post time would, of course, be within seconds of when you pressed the submit button so they would know when you sent it whenever they might have read it.

Exactly

If you post something at 2 56 pm and you see it on your page

Its recorded as 2 56 pm in time post

But unless another member on that page refreshes the page browser within 30 seconds of that entry - he will not see it immediately on his computer screen

He might see it at 2 58 pm or even 3 01 pm - all depending if he goes on to another thread and come back to that page thread

Now if the thread as moved on to another page at say 2 57 pm due to another comment - that member will not know about the 2 56 pm comment - until he goes back to the previous page

Most days I miss comments from followers and then only see them say 15 - 30 mins later when I check if the member repeats the questions etc

Conclusion - what you send and you see on your screen - might not be seen by others - even if they are on that thread page when you sent it - until they manually refresh browser - or move away and come back onto the thread.

Its of absolutely of no worry or concern to live call traders who trades last 1 hr plus - ok followers might miss 2-5 pips off the entry

But for live calls on short term trades of say 5 -12 pips - then 3 - 5 mins is the difference between other members saying the call is made in hind sight

Only Major Magnums statements might show otherwise - funny nobody comments on the imaginary student who's learnt the method - only members complain about the loud brash big headed F........ who maybe gives tooooo many secrets away 🙂

Looking forward to the Apprentice Final - why I dont know ;-)

Regards

F

 

[barjon]

Exactly

If you post something at 2 56 pm and you see it on your page

Its recorded as 2 56 pm in time post

But unless another member on that page refreshes the page browser within 30 seconds of that entry - he will not see it immediately on his computer screen

He might see it at 2 58 pm or even 3 01 pm - all depending if he goes on to another thread and come back to that page thread

Now if the thread as moved on to another page at say 2 57 pm due to another comment - that member will not know about the 2 56 pm comment - until he goes back to the previous page

Most days I miss comments from followers and then only see them say 15 - 30 mins later when I check if the member repeats the questions etc

Conclusion - what you send and you see on your screen - might not be seen by others - even if they are on that thread page when you sent it - until they manually refresh browser - or move away and come back onto the thread.

Its of absolutely of no worry or concern to live call traders who trades last 1 hr plus - ok followers might miss 2-5 pips off the entry

But for live calls on short term trades of say 5 -12 pips - then 3 - 5 mins is the difference between other members saying the call is made in hind sight

Only Major Magnums statements might show otherwise - funny nobody comments on the imaginary student who's learnt the method - only members complain about the loud brash big headed F........ who maybe gives tooooo many secrets away 🙂

Looking forward to the Apprentice Final - why I dont know ;-)

Regards

F

Hey ho.

This isn't about people being in a position to shadow your trades. It's about you demonstrating the actual trades you take.

 

[lexcorp]

1/The fact that people need to refresh the page to see new posts in completely irrelevant. It doesn't change anything. it's a strawman
2/Nobody cares about MajorMagnum. Don't know why you bring 'him' up every 8 seconds. He may or may not be 'imaginary'. He may or may not be on demo. He may or may not be using the same 'method' as you. He isn't claiming to be an 'expert' and isn't the one pretending that commentary on potential levels = successful trade calls.
3/Apprentice final. Me too. Love it. I've had Mark as the winner from the 2nd week or so. Most of the others seemed like morons in comparison. I'm surprised that the girl made it to the final. She's made some real clangers. There were more worthy contenders for the final imo

 

[Forexmospherian]

Hey ho.

This isn't about people being in a position to shadow your trades. It's about you demonstrating the actual trades you take.

WHY ?

If I make say 18 calls in a session - and 4 are wrong and I only personally take 14 calls I make and only have 2 wrong - whats the problem???

Surely the main questions raised before -

1. All his calls are hindsight - No live calls prior to the move WRONG

2. He's not a trader - he's a blogger - he does not trade with a live account ?? WRONG

3. His method cannot work - he's selling rubbish - ( I think most members have accepted I dont sell anything now ) WRONG

4. I trade account (s) - every day - I am Full time and have been now for 7 years.

That account is totally private and confidential. Do I ever brag saying I made $9k today or £6k or even $50k in a month - and back it up with a statement - that could be doctored to show what I like ( Like Mr Fox did ) - NO

Yes everybody knows my stops are 3 -7 pips and my daily targets are 50 pips .

Whether I trade with 5 lots per pip or 13 pips a lot - what does it matter ???

Its amazing everybody believes that I am 60 yrs old

But nobody believes approx 13 yrs of FX study and 7 yrs trading FULL TIME

People perceptions are all different - they believe what they want to believe - and if they want to believe I cannot trade and have loads of losing days and only make $500 a month from trading - so be it ;-))

But they would be WRONG

Regards

F

 

[Forexmospherian]

1/The fact that people need to refresh the page to see new posts in completely irrelevant. It doesn't change anything. it's a strawman
2/Nobody cares about MajorMagnum. Don't know why you bring 'him' up every 8 seconds. He may or may not be 'imaginary'. He may or may not be on demo. He may or may not be using the same 'method' as you. He isn't claiming to be an 'expert' and isn't the one pretending that commentary on potential levels = successful trade calls.
3/Apprentice final. Me too. Love it. I've had Mark as the winner from the 2nd week or so. Most of the others seemed like morons in comparison. I'm surprised that the girl made it to the final. She's made some real clangers. There were more worthy contenders for the final imo

I too had Mark on my 3 favourites - but thought the attractive Irish accountant girl would have been in last 2 - not the other girl ;-)

I care a lot about Major Magnum

He his the first trader I have ever shown how to carry out my method in real detail

Its taken him over 6 months to understand it and 8 months before he went live and until he's made over 2000 live trades I have told him to stay under 1 lot per pip - and also trade demo some session to give you more confidence and experience.

But even if he did say 2000 trades on demo - they count for nothing - its over 2000 trades on a live money account that will give him balls - or wings if the drinking red bull at the same time ;-)

So far he has only just taken over 1000 live trades - so still quite a bit to go

He will only become another expert ( LIKE ME ) after say 10k trades - ie in another 3 yrs or so 👍

Good Trading


F

 

[barjon]

"........WHY ?.........


F

If that's not obvious to you by now......🙄


It's said that empty vessels make the most noise. Well, you've made plenty of noise and this is your chance to show that there's actually something more in the drum than hot air.
Your mere assertions that there is doesn't cut the mustard I'm afraid.

 

[lexcorp]

Good Trading


F

Yeah, I quite liked the Irish girl, too.

I'm afraid the experts on trade2win left some time ago 🙁
The best we have now (not you i'm afraid 😢 ) would never call themselves experts but they know who they are 😉

Enjoy the Apprentice...I know I will!! 🙂
(the devil is in the details )

 

[counter_violent]

I too had Mark on my 3 favourites - but thought the attractive Irish accountant girl would have been in last 2 - not the other girl ;-)

I care a lot about Major Magnum

He his the first trader I have ever shown how to carry out my method in real detail

Its taken him over 6 months to understand it and 8 months before he went live and until he's made over 2000 live trades I have told him to stay under 1 lot per pip - and also trade demo some session to give you more confidence and experience.

But even if he did say 2000 trades on demo - they count for nothing - its over 2000 trades on a live money account that will give him balls - or wings if the drinking red bull at the same time ;-)

So far he has only just taken over 1000 live trades - so still quite a bit to go

He will only become another expert ( LIKE ME ) after say 10k trades - ie in another 3 yrs or so 👍

Good Trading


F

Do you know the definition of expert ?

Allow me.
Pronounced Ex-spurt

Ex.........a has been
spurt......a drip under pressure

🙂

 

[tar]

Note : He didnt teach Major Magnum anything , the posts between both guys are here anyone can read , fxmo didnt teach him any method whatsoever this is all bs !

 

[Fugazsy]

F

You know I am not a hater and I am your mate, but good mates also point out the truth to each other also when is not convenient.

a) Believe me you never made a live trade for what I am concern, of course I am not sure because I do not read all your posts, I just cannot.

b) Expecting others to spend 8 months studying your method like MM did is a bit too much to ask, even if your method turn out to be a great method, it will not work for some that have a personality that do not relates to it and I am sure you agree with me on this, beside MM is not there yet, as you know not long time ago he made a few mistakes that do not confirm that status.

c) Personally I also would like to try to trade the way you do, but I want to make that decision once I have all the fact in front of me, as I said I do not want spend 10 months heavily on something just to find out afterwards that is not my way. If you like me to try I need you as I mentioned earlier to write down your method in an objective way as much as you can:

Time frame: 1m and 70 tick chart
Pairs : EU, GU, EJ........
Indicators:LR's (500,200,100,50,25,10)
TA: trend lines:
Short term scalps: bla bla bla
Long term scalps: bla bla bla
Exits: bla bla bla
Condition one:bla bla bla
Condition two: bla bla bla
Notes: bla bla
News: bla bla bla

and so on and on

I am sure with your written ability you will lay something that will be very clear.

Then when I have all in front on me, I can give a good week to see if it is something I or others would like to pursue or not, I am also aware that it will take me about a year afterwards to make it work properly and a few years after that to make even better, but that is the same with any methods.

Your mate and
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Fzsy

 

[MajorMagnuM]

Note : He didnt teach Major Magnum anything , the posts between both guys are here anyone can read , fxmo didnt teach him any method whatsoever this is all bs !

i dont agree. he certainly made me apply myself and find examples for myself of what was explained in charts posted. On occasion F has had to spell it out when im slow

 

[neil]

i dont agree. he certainly made me apply myself and find examples for myself of what was explained in charts posted. On occasion F has had to spell it out when im slow

Maybe that's because you're a hard worker MM and applied yourself to study and practice.And you sifted the material and extracted what you found useful. The others
are maybe too lazy to study the material, disinterested, or simply intellectually not up to the task. Others throw stones simply for the lultz.
Since no money is being sought or items sold one can only assume that some on this site cannot resist in tilting at wind mills.

Tilting at windmills - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windmills
Tilting at windmills is an English idiom which means attacking imaginary enemies.

 

[jeffre4]

can magormagnum and mofo both post at the same time to prove you are not the same person. i reckon you run down the street to your mums and use her computer when you are your alto ego.

 

[trade2windows]

can magormagnum and mofo both post at the same time to prove you are not the same person. i reckon you run down the street to your mums and use her computer when you are your alto ego.

No ,he uses the free wifi in McDonalds

 

[Forexmospherian]

Do you know the definition of expert ?

Allow me.
Pronounced Ex-spurt

Ex.........a has been
spurt......a drip under pressure

🙂

The proper definition fits me better - (see below)

I remember Shakone asking me seriously - "What is a 10 second tick chart"

And some members here thought he was an "expert trader" in some format.?????

I have not got a clue trading Stocks or indices or long term investments in currencies. But retail trading most FX pairs under 30 / 60 min time frames - I AM THE MAN ;-)


EXPERT


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1.
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"an expert in health care"
synonyms: specialist, authority, pundit, oracle; More
antonyms: inexpert, amateur
adjective
adjective: expert
1.
having or involving a great deal of knowledge or skill in a particular area.
"he had received expert academic advice"
synonyms: skilful, skilled, adept, accomplished, talented, fine; More
antonyms: inexpert, incompetent
Origin

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[Forexmospherian]

Note : He didnt teach Major Magnum anything , the posts between both guys are here anyone can read , fxmo didnt teach him any method whatsoever this is all bs !

Now you have shown yourself up here Tar - BIG TIME.

From December 2013 to even this last week - Major Magnum has be taught - my method - by me . FULL STOP

Remember you guys even threw every trick in the book to say - I was Davie Robertson - then I was Major Magnum - we were suppose to be the same guy - and then you found out he had heard of me via another ex FX street guy JohniFX - another ex Forexmospherian member .

I had not taught MM nothing before mid November 2013 - He was a average not quite intermediate level FX retail trader of just over 18 / 24 months. He had studied the normal stuff - ie EW - Andrews Pitchforks / Gann / Fibs etc etc - you know the normal 50 /50 rubbish - that's great in theory and just gives you average results as long as applied with good money management

My method is more complex and sophisticated than other noted short term traders such as AL Brooks / Lance Beggs / Bob Volman - etc etc - other traders who might be looked upon as so called experts etc

The trouble is - its far too complex to sell in a book and course etc etc - and maybe 70% of all newbie / intermediary level FX traders will be put off it - because it demands a lot of hard work and study etc etc

Fugazsy - that might be your problem - you either try my way 100% or by trying to combine it with Bob Volman / Al Brooks way etc - will only take you so far.

Do they ever mention using a stopwatch?

In fact does any other book suggest using a stopwatch ?? Are there any other real experts out there ??? ;-)

Any way - MM has continued to follow me many sessions - maybe over 130 over last year - as well as trading and studying the "coalface" himself to find the "devil in the detail" stuff

I did not know him at all

In fact we have never met . I am delighted I found a hard working student - who's clever with free time in between his main work - and he's delighted to have found a trader who has a method that can make money day in day out

I hope - and I am sure Major Magnum does that in another year he will look at going full time - as he will earn more money than in his present career

Conclusion

Sorry Tar - YOU ARE WRONG - ( You are fired ;-) )

Good Trading


F

 

[Forexmospherian]

F

You know I am not a hater and I am your mate, but good mates also point out the truth to each other also when is not convenient.

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b) Expecting others to spend 8 months studying your method like MM did is a bit too much to ask, even if your method turn out to be a great method,

Hi Fugazsy

It take over 5 years to study to be Doctor / Lawyer / Qualifed Accountant etcetc

I reckon it take over 3 year to get to a decent level - if you already have the basics


I reckon you could read all my blogs - in 2 main threads and a couple more in say 2 to 4 weeks - at maybe 3- 5 hrs a day

I genuinely say - if anyone is not prepared to even do that as first level on the way

Dont bother

And I am being serious

Trading to make money is neither simple or easy.

Dedication / mindset / determination / patience / commitment/ Hard work / ability to not give up / winning attitude / confidence / and a decent brain matched to good vision are all pre requisites to making it

I did not think it would take MM 6 -8 months - I envisaged half the time

I was wrong - some might make it under 6 months - most will take over 9 months

I just tell you all whats needed to be done and all the clues

You have to do the work and then I answer all the queries after you have got there and think that now I make 1000% increase on demo for a few week- will it be the same live ?

Of course the answer is NO - it will take another 3 yrs live before you think of 100% a month on under 2% stake size with max drawdown of 5%

Hard work

Its separates the winners to 90% of everyone else ;-)

Good Trading


F

 

[Fugazsy]

Hi Fugazsy

It take over 5 years to study to be Doctor / Lawyer / Qualifed Accountant etcetc

I reckon it take over 3 year to get to a decent level - if you already have the basics


I reckon you could read all my blogs - in 2 main threads and a couple more in say 2 to 4 weeks - at maybe 3- 5 hrs a day

I genuinely say - if anyone is not prepared to even do that as first level on the way

Dont bother

And I am being serious

Trading to make money is neither simple or easy.

Dedication / mindset / determination / patience / commitment/ Hard work / ability to not give up / winning attitude / confidence / and a decent brain matched to good vision are all pre requisites to making it

I did not think it would take MM 6 -8 months - I envisaged half the time

I was wrong - some might make it under 6 months - most will take over 9 months

I just tell you all whats needed to be done and all the clues

You have to do the work and then I answer all the queries after you have got there and think that now I make 1000% increase on demo for a few week- will it be the same live ?

Of course the answer is NO - it will take another 3 yrs live before you think of 100% a month on under 2% stake size with max drawdown of 5%

Hard work

Its separates the winners to 90% of everyone else ;-)

Good Trading


F

F

hard work does not scare me, I dedicate 4 hours pip by pip a day trading my own method and another few hours the morning after revising what I did right/wrong pip by pip the day before.

I have been trading for at least 10 years, most of the time very intensively, from the daily to 70 tick chart. There is a little I do not know regarding naked chart and PA.

I know very well that trading at a certain level is not easy.

I had a look at your thread and read half of it, mostly is about who has the bigger nose or you trying to defend yourself about you own method, the time you got to the charts showing your LR's lines, I could not see the bars, I could not see the price, I only could see lines....only indicators which are in my perception a step further than price. And my best experience and knowledge comes from naked charts (Volman, Brooks, Murphy).

I thought that I could combine the two because I could feel your generosity and you wanted others to do well, but I could not, your key times into your time window did not much my best entry, maybe a few did but not enough to be considered, most of your KT did not go anywhere in the best of my market structure.

I think it is your prerogative to present your method the way you wish and I respect that. But a good teacher also listens to his pupils.

I now trade the 1m shifted (also thanks to you) from my bread and butter for years, the 5m (my way) and I am doing pretty well, better results compared, more possibility in my four hour session.

I am not making 30% a day but between 1 to 3% in a few months times a day will be plenty for me, beside I do not give a damn about money in the sense that it is not my only purpose.

You have my respect and because of it I want to make a few things straight and I am telling you as I see it: You are not calling live trades and you are not making easy to others to understand the concept of your method.

I own it to you and I am telling you and I cannot and want not control how you perceive it.

I will not post on this issue anymore.

And yes good luck with your trading and the rest.


Fzsy