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Absolutely brilliant post At' - right up to the very end when you went and spoilt it! It should read:4. Join EU
4. Stay out of EU.
Absolutely brilliant post At' - right up to the very end when you went and spoilt it! It should read:4. Join EU
Absolutely brilliant post At' - right up to the very end when you went and spoilt it! It should read:
4. Stay out of EU.
At',Look at Boris sending the British Navy to flex muscle against French fishing ships. Can you believe UK having fisty cuff with the French. Prickly neighbours n all that. Neighbourly disputes are the worst as we can all see.
Welcome to T2W and the thread D'AYC,I am really surprised to hear some pro-rashist voices in this thread. It's really saddening me as a person who comes from Ukraine and closely follows what is happening there over the years.
I see. So I will support the 141 bad guys who I can freely visit and communicate with without fear Let alone that 24/7 I use everything that they create. This all actually keeps me alive and well. As for the other 5 bad guys, I don't think I like them at all.Welcome to T2W and the thread D'AYC,
I suspect you're misinterpreting or misunderstanding those of us who don't endorse the 'Zelensky & Ukraine good - Putin & Russia bad' mantra. None of us - that I'm aware of anyway - are 'pro-fascist'. It's not my place to speak for others, obviously, but I think most members on my side of the argument would claim - like me - to be vehemently anti-fascist and maintain that there are no good guys and bad guys in this conflict - they'll all bad guys. If you read the article linked in new_trader's post - you'll find the evidence to support this view.
Tim.
Welcome to T2W.I see. So I will support the 141 bad guys who I can freely visit and communicate with without fear Let alone that 24/7 I use everything that they create. This all actually keeps me alive and well. As for the other 5 bad guys, I don't think I like them at all.
I don't really know how to react to lies and debunked myths that are spread by totalitarian and terrorist regimes from all over the world. So I'll just post this link. Can't do more.Welcome to T2W.
I'm sure these figures would be very different if the voting would be repeated today.
I'm also sure you had good reasons to leave Ukraine as more than 10 millions of Ukrainians did since the 90th.
None of pro-war advocates have a solutions for the Donbas region, where the war started in 2014 which escalated in the invasion.
It's very easy to pick up an event after the Russian invasion and start finger pointing to Russia and Putin by ignoring the cause of the invasion.
Do you know the Ukrainian solution for the Donbas region to end the civil war there if it would hypothetically return to Ukraine?
Multiply the 14,000 deaths there since 2014?
Or at least start paying the salaries and pensions to the people there which are not paid by Ukraine since 2014?
Etc.
You can also add the Zelensky regime and his Nazi batallions to this description.I don't really know how to react to lies and debunked myths that are spread by totalitarian and terrorist regimes from all over the world. So I'll just post this link. Can't do more.
.. is dead in Ukraine since the opposition is eliminated.Freedom and democracy
Sorry, I strongly disagree with anything you're saying. I trust western democracies, I trust people I happily live among. I don't trust russia, china, north korea etc.You can also add the Zelensky regime and his Nazi batallions to this description.
Your Link is off topic in his conclusion - I know the original UN report.
I recommend "Ukranian Agony" to watch - Ukrainians didn't shoot Ukrainians. I had posted this footage also earlier in this thread.
Ukrainian Agony - The Concealed War (2015)
Since mid-July 2014, our war correspondent team is still on site in the southeast of Ukraine – in the Donbass. We shot countless videos and scored over a thousand photos. The team of “Keep a close eye...odysee.com
Ukrainians don't shoot Ukrainians, but Nazis do. Give enough Nazis enough weapons and a subhuman group - for Hitler it was the Jews, for the Ukarinian Nazis there are the Ukrainians with Russian roots and the Russians.
.. is dead in Ukraine since the opposition is eliminated.
But - hypothetidcally - it can be rebuilt when the war is over and the regime has stepped down.
I hope they will find better candidates for the president than a comedian, a boxer and a rock musician, candidates with a political vision. Unfortunately, Zelensky was unable to implement any of the things he had promised before the election.
Why? Is it because . . .I am sorry I got involved in this conversation.
Well, Ukraine needs to crowdfund the war effort as it's clear that the arms and money supply from the west won't - and can't - continue indefinitely. I hope your pockets are very, very deep though, as the rockets for the 'game changer' HIMARS cost circa $100,000 each.I'll just keep donating to Ukraine and its armed forces and will watch how they destroy the rashist army in Crimea and elsewhere.
Be careful what you wish for is my advice. Ukrainians are less free now than they were before the war. Not because of Putin and Russia, but because they're totally 100% enslaved to the U.S. In effect, Ukraine has become the 51st U.S. state. Zelensky doesn't care as he's well on his way to becoming a billionaire. When the time comes, he'll just get on a plane to Nekker island - or wherever. Ordinary Ukrainians will be left with decimated families, destroyed infrastructure and impoverished by a debt they'll be paying off for the rest of their lives to the very people responsible for their misery. That might be your idea of freedom and democracy - but it's certainly not mine.Freedom and democracy will win for one simple reason - free people are always stronger and more effective than slaves.
I am sorry I got involved in this conversation. I'll just keep donating to Ukraine and its armed forces and will watch how they destroy the rashist army in Crimea and elsewhere. Freedom and democracy will win for one simple reason - free people are always stronger and more effective than slaves.
I used to be like you when younger and growing up.Sorry, I strongly disagree with anything you're saying. I trust western democracies, I trust people I happily live among. I don't trust russia, china, north korea etc.
Exact.
Ukraine cannot paly the game of traditional artillery, they are outgunned by a factor of 10.
So they have to play another game: spec ops, precision strikes, quality over quantity.
In the first month they learned that the weak spot of Russia is supply so they bet on that.
I am 43. Please don't patronize. When people disagree with you, this doesn't mean they know less. This can easily be the other way round. We will meet here in couple years and you will see Ukraine to have won this war. The rashist war criminals will be handed over by russia itself to the ICC✌️I used to be like you when younger and growing up.
Then I grew up, travelled and met a lot of people, read a lot of stuff and saw a lot of things which made me question and change my point of view.
I don't trust Western democracies or what the Main Stream Media says anymore. It is more than distrust. I have seen their lies, deceits and attrocities and dual standards with sickening hypocrisy all over the world.
Have an open mind and question what is presented to you. Healthy scepticism is good for you.
I am 43. Please don't patronize. When people disagree with you, this doesn't mean they know less. This can easily be the other way round. We will meet here in couple years and you will see Ukraine to have won this war. The rashist war criminals will be handed over by russia itself to the ICC✌️